Did Vietnam kill the old New Deal order?
>>18660562it killed any hope of americans every volunteering to enlist for a foreign war, and now all we have is mercs in it for the payday and love of the kill. I'd say that Nam destroyed the dream of America standing for virtuous principles.
>>18660566Vietnam did the opposite. It made the military switch from a conscript force to a volunteer force.
>>18660575volunteering for the cause, and signing up to get a payday and the thrill of the kill are not the same thing
>>18660575No one in the military except probably some retarded evangelicals and Mormons actually believes in anything approaching a "cause". It's all poor kids.
>>18660562The New Deal order never died and LBJ's administration mark an enormous inflation of it anyway. As long as Social Security is alive FDR's ghost is still pulling the strings of American politics.
>>18660562It was mostly a spirit of change within the Democrats. The old guard of ethnic patronage/corrupt union kickbacks made way for bleeding-heart ideologues who genuinely hated Christian America.
>>18660582>>18660631Exactly as it was before Vietnam as well. Almost every war prior was made up of conscripts, with most volunteers being working class kids seeking a paycheck. Very few ever joined for a glorious cause.
>>18660562Yes. The New Left came on, but the empire struck back. It formed a monolith of neoliberalism/neoconservatism, and here we are. Slaves to our betters. Together forever. Now shut up.
>>18660673There are many ways to force people into service without conscription, and a paycheck isn't worth much if you won't live to spend it
>>18660562No, the oil crises did.
