How did Canaris go from being ideologically onboard with National Socialism, including the Antisemetism to finding faults in the Hitler regeime? Was is the attack on Poland?
>>18661144He saw the mass murders Hitler commuters on slavs and jews in Poland and didn’t give with it. It’s when they started losing the war that he became an dissenter only to save his skin after the war.
>>18661144Yeah, that's pretty much it>>18661151Not really since he already passed some info to Allies via Switzerland before Barbarossa
>>18661144Seeing atrocities in Poland was a big factor for sure. Also as an intelligence agent and an admiral, he knew that Hitler plan to wage war on UK, USA and USSR was a suicide
>>18661181It was Amerikkka and UKKK that declared war on germany. Hitler tried to sue for peace several times.
>>18661181Waging war on the UK was never a plan, it was more of a catastrophic incompetent miscalculation, but I suppose your point still stands regardless.But yes on top of that NSDAP were a bunch of ideological lunatics, causing death to Germans and other Europeans
>How did Canaris go from being ideologically onboard with National SocialismHe wasn't onboard with it. He was just a typical Prussian officer, who supported his state and government.>including the AntisemetismEveryone was Antisemitic back then. Even the Allies. >to finding faults in the Hitler regime?He got the false impression that Hitler wanted to dismantle the Prussian Officer Corps of the German Reich and thought the Regime used thug-like methods to remove their critics, which made them think the new leadership were indistinguishable from the SA (they had a really bad reputation in Germany, Germans loved Hitler, but hated the SA generally)He from then on became a traitor and was offended, when the German government didn't allow him to just keep betraying their secrets to the enemy.>Was is the attack on Poland?AHAHAHAHA. A Prussian German? Disagreeing with attacking Poland, when they were mistreating Germans stranded in the Polish state and stealing their land and houses? Ridiculous. He didn't disagree with the war itself. Just the way it was conducted. He just wanted to feel like a high-status honorable Noble, who did war "the right way". He didn't want to mistreat Poles like they mistreated Germans.
>>18661196Canaris saved some Jews here and there
>>18661200So? The world is not as simple and black and white as you think. A British colonial officer can give an Indian water and food, but still support his people's supremacy over theirs. Not wanting to massacer Poles doesn't make one Pro-Polish or anti-war against Poland.People were actually very interesting and nuanced back then, before we most of the West became Libtard drones.
>>18661202Yeah that’s my point. Canaris was a normal German of his time, not an ideological Nazi.
>>18661204The very idea that you make a difference between normal German and ideological Nazi is already flawed. You think in a moral way. A normal German to you is more moral than an ideological Nazi. I am not interested in that conversation. I don't care about who was good and who was evil. I think such a concept is flawed and boring anyway. I don't care who the villain in a story is. I think in terms of different social strata, a waning aristocracy, following honorable warfare as a point of personal pride in yourself, not as some kind of altruistic good, which you have for the enemy. My "villains" are not evil people, but people, who want to destroy civilization, degenerate races, spread indiciency, revel in cruelty and torture. So Nazis and old traditional Prussians are both good. They both want to preserve or achieve a higher development of man. The Soviet Union on the other hand, Communism is the enemy. They want to degenerate us into cattle. Kill the best of us, so the remaining people are slaves.
>>18661209Kys retard.
>>18661196He was butthurt at bombing Warsaw.
>>18661187My point was that Hitler was aiming to bulid a global empire, which woulde eventually mean a total war with UK, USA and USSR, and doing this whole insane lebensraum thing. Most "old prussians" just wanted 1914 border with Poland (or at least connection to East Prussia), maybe Sudetes and then they would be happy Also nazism was a revolution, pretty similar to Bolshevism in a way that they want to completly destroy the old Germany and bulid a new "nazi state" It's easy to see why conservatives hated it
>>18661209and thus we face the only option - to follow our leader into war with communism. Because noone else will do it.HEIL HITLER !
