>>18664503
Kill yourself you fucking retard

>>18664503
China is the closest thing to National Socialism today.

>>18664503
Marxists were the original atheists and they all have murder fantasies of killing christians and banning religion. They're also materialists and wouldn't agree to
>"Spirit is more important than the body"
Marxists don't think there's anything other than the material. Their sense of morality is just degenerated christian morality, but thats where the similarities stop

>>18664553
why does pol hate them then?

>>18664503
>Right Wing (Nietzscheans):
>>Fascist
Retard
/thread

>>18664553
No, Israel is.

>>18664553
China is the plastic junk plantation of the capitalist globalist hegemon America.

>Christian
>Marxist
Retarded

>>18664503
what the fuck do marxists have in common with Plato and Christianity and spirituality, they hate all that shit.

>>18664696
>>18664697
communism is just jesus for the modern age

>>18664703
so is Nazism, that's basically Eliade's thesis. In the wake of the collapse of religious institutions, and the rise of secularism and industrialization in the 19th century, in a desacralized modernity, man's notions of messianic redemption, an elect community, a struggle between good and evil, and the possibility of transcending the ordinary march of history have been redirected towards politics in the form of communism and nazism.

>>18664703
paganslop propaganda , jesus didn't want class struggle or overthrow the leaders he just wanted relative peace and a moral order

>>18664736
you are clueless of both

>>18664503
Now copying posts from open troll accounts on X. This board really has fallen from grace

>>18664736
part of the pagan anxiety over Christianity is that pagans are generally urban post-liberals who grew up exposed to both communists whose religious fervor allows them to excuse communist atrocities and massacres and Christians who were conservative and masculine but also tolerant, universalist, and forgiving.

So they think they've made this genius discovery that the only thing holding the right back from beating the left is their Christian morality. We just need to stop being empathetic christcucks, and instead be Nietzschean aesthetically-LARPagan but really Atheist ubermensch, and then we'll finally beat the left.

Literally for decades right wing "philosophers" were enraptured by this idea, they loved it, they thought they'd struck gold. Jonathan Bowden and BAP and Nick Fuentes and all these guys have embraced this polemic at one time or another.

It's complete bullshit. There's no market for it. There's no audience except for a dozen online bisexual half-jewish half-irish posters. There's no one out there who would be right wing if it were just more ruthless and Nietzschean. The average person already thinks a christcuck like George Bush was an amoral childkilling aryan warlord. which then makes the current president triple hitler in comparison. The thing that attracts people to the right is seeing right wingers support the police and save lives and prevent murder and lock up rapists in prison and clean up cities and make the world beautiful and Christian again. That's what's compelling about the Right.

And if you want to say "well I'm not talking about the average person, we need a new elite that's amoral and right wing that can infiltrate the institutions" then you're just playing with dolls.

>>18664749
actually if you weren't a newfag you'd know that OPs have always been lazy troll bait to attract the good posters

>>18664750
>part of people whom i disagree with slop is that people whom i disagree with live in ways i dont like in places i dont like and....

shut the fuck up, retard

>>18664753
u mad lol

if you're unwilling to understand the various mistakes of christians, pagans, and atheists of the past 30 years, you'll just repeat them. Learn to read nigger!

>>18664503
Nietzsche would think fascists were retarded sheep

>>18664762
What would Jesus think of modern Christians lmao
The doctrine lives regardless of the opinion of its earliest proponents.

>>18664568
We should strive to remove abrahamism from the entire planet, this is a good thing though.

>>18664736
>>18664750
>The poor, meek, oppressed faithful are morally privileged
>The poor, meek, oppressed are morally privileged
>The rich and powerful are morally corrupt
>Existing worldly order is unjust
>Judgement day will come and undo it
>Humanity is alienated from God and the utopian garden of Eden
>Humanity is alienated from its own production, back during the hunter-gatherer days
>Salvation - Emancipation
>Kingdom of God - Communist utopia
>Universal human community in haven - Classless society
>Conversion - Recruitment
etc

Christianity is slave morality.
Hegel secularizes it.
Marx materializes it.
Communism attempts to apply it.

>>18664503
>Right Wing (Nietzscheans):
>>Love Japan
Japan is the most collectivist "dont ever do anything that goes against the group or inconveniences anyone, ever" society on earth. Liking Japan and Nietzsche at the same time makes zero sense

>>18664750
cope pagancuck keep licking wood statues and applying nietzche's vision to the real world is retarded the man was clueless of human nature and how the world works ,

>>18664780
show me a metropolis of 50,000,000 people all living without "slave morality"

ubermensch wolfpack sigmaboys dont scale

>>18664780
not at all ,calling christianity “slave morality” is a very simplified reading of Nietzsche. Christianity does praise humility, mercy, and care for the weak, but it doesn’t praise weakness itself. It also strongly values courage, discipline, self-control, perseverance, sacrifice, and standing firm in suffering. a pretty obvious example of that are the christian maryrs (and litterally christ himself)

christianity also wasn’t created by slaves or the powerless. Its followers came from different social classes, including wealthy and influential people. Its basic argument is not “weakness is good,” but that power, wealth, and status don’t determine someone’s moral worth. A powerful person can be corrupt, while a weak person can be virtuous.
In short your opinion is nieztche but even more retarded , and so on ultimatly and objectivly wrong

So Nietzsche identified a real difference between Christian and aristocratic values, but reducing Christianity to “the weak invented morality to cope with being weak” is much too simplistic.

>>18664877
>a pretty obvious example of that are the christian maryrs
who are all completely made up fairytales though, so what does that prove?

>>18664868
why did you come away from my critique of the failures of gay post-liberal aesthetically-pagan actually-atheist LARPagans like Bowden thinking I was a pagan?

>>18664775
what ideology could this not be applied to?

Capitalism:
the poor meek oppressed are morally privileged, which is why they deserve capitalism. The capitalist system submits itself to the demands of the poor, meek, and oppressed, who go wherever the wages provided to the free man are highest.

the rich and powerful are morally corrupt, which is why they must be forced to submit to the free market system with no opportunity for collusion or conspiracy or artificial protections like price floors.

The existing worldly order, e.g. feudalism or slavery or indentured servitude or communism or whatever preceded capitalism is unjust

Humanity is alienated from free enterprise and innovation under the tyranny of serfdom and feudalism

et cetera et cetera

Anything can be twisted in this way, it's pointless.

>>18664503
You realise that Marxism is materialist, right? Its kinda one of its core things.

>>18664882
>ignored most of my argument;
>attacked one example instead of the main point;
>treated “all martyr stories may be legendary” as if that disproves the broader argument;
>made an absolute claim (“completely made up”) without establishing it;
> didn't address my central distinction that Christianity values courage and self-mastery, not weakness itself.
Honestly you might be lower than 90IQ

>>18664877
>a pretty obvious example of that are the christian maryrs (and litterally christ himself)
but christian martyrdom celebrates losers losing
it celebrates sitting down and being beaten to death and dying

its the slave saying that the master whipping him is immoral, and he is moral for taking the lashes. that's slave morality.

>>18664914
Your post makes no sense, and Christianity is obviously closer to Communism than Capitalism is to either.

>>18664960
That assumes Christians celebrate losing itself. They don't. Martyrs is about refusing to abandon your beliefs even when threatened with death. The martyr isn't saying ‘being whipped is good’; he's saying ‘I won't betray what I believe is true just to save myself.’ You can reject Christianity, but that's not the same thing as glorifying weakness.
also they didn't lose at all with their sacrifice europe became christians , it's like saying (people who fought and died in a war heroically are losers) , that's so retarded

>>18664962
you think that because of your personal feelings about the three ideologies. You're also too retarded to understand a simple explanation of why capitalism and christianity were so closely intertwined historically and why some of the most pious, devout nations - Scotland and the Netherlands - were progenitors of capitalism.

The point is that capitalism can far more benevolent towards the weak, meek, and oppressed because it forces corporations and the wealthy to submit to the will of the work force, which goes wherever the wages offered to the free man are the highest, and to submit to the will of the consumers, who determine whether the corporation will succeed or go bankrupt. Instead of chaining them down in a gulag to break rocks and eat moldy onions for 20 years or sit and wait in a bread line every day. Just think about it for two seconds, freak.

Freedom and free enterprise can be good for the common man.

faggot leftist freaks on this board, which was created by a millenial lolbert, cannot understand how christianity and capitalism could develop in parallel because xe learned all xer history from hasan piker.

>>18665350
You think that because of your personal feelings about the three ideologies.
You love Christianity and Capitalism, therefore they must be similar, or you'd be a retarded moron faggot.

Well, son....

>>18664750
>There's no one out there who would be right wing if it were just more ruthless and Nietzschean
The average gen Z white male would support almost any measure to get rid of the current hell-world he finds himself in, the more violent and radical the better.
>The thing that attracts people to the right is seeing right wingers support the police and save lives and prevent murder and lock up rapists in prison and clean up cities and make the world beautiful and Christian again
And you're here talking about power-fantasies lol, making your country better (something the system will actively stop you from doing, look at Sweden or America) won't change anyones mind because lefties don't even appeal to that anymore, their only arguments for mass migration and the rest is that it improves the lives of brown people, women, fags and trannies, whatever.
Trump is far closer to an amoral Nietzschean than a christian anyways and that is why he's been far more successful than christcucks like Bush.

>>18665848
Your views are very childish. I suggest you screenshot them, save them in your G Drive, and set a calendar alert to remind you of them in 10 years. You will have a good giggle.

>>18665861
Lol I live in Sweden and even though the current "right-wing" government has reduced the shootings to record low levels by expanding the police force they're still going to be destroyed in the next election because they were slightly mean to some imigrants, but not enough to see a noticeable change in peoples every-day lives (tons of brownies stoll walking around, and whites are a minority among school-aged children by now).
It doesn't matter if you try to improve society because the left doesn't care about that, the way you deal with the left is by going straight through them, democracy just isn't going to cut it in the long run when they control all of our institutions and have done so for decades.

>>18664874
That's the whole point. Master morality for me, slave morality for thee.

>>18664874
>show me a city of 50000000 dinosaurs
>thats right, no such city, therefore dinosaurs dont scale

??

>>18664605
Racism.

>>18665870
see >>18665861

>>18665991
The west will become Brazil (or worse) because "principled" conservatives like yourself refused to pull your heads out of your fucking asses.

>>18666017
"the west" isnt a thing and its problems aren't "left wing" or "right wing", and it will continue to extract cheap labour and all brains from all over the world for as long as it can, to your benefit, even if you dont get it

>>18666028
>"the west" isnt a thing
Lol.
>its problems aren't "left wing" or "right wing"
I agree the cucked right and liberal globalists are just as if not more responsible than the left is yeah.
>to your benefit
Cheap labour only benefits a few megacorps, mass migration overall is economically a minus sign. Immigration done primarily for economic reasons would look like Dubai, not western europe.
Japan is for instance doing far better than the west is on almost every metric despite almost no immigration.

>>18664605
because they're an evil dictatorship that want whites dead?

>>18666390
China wants to kill white people?

>>18665350
being frugal, working the land, being a merchant ... has fuckall to do with Christianity

Leftists are just evil people and should be treated as such desu.
Feminism has ruined the lives of young western men yet leftists continue advocating for more of it? The only reasonable conclusion is that they want the lives of young men to be even more miserable, i.e that is the intended goal.
Mass migration turned major west european cities into slums and is in the process of turning white people into minorities and 2nd class citizens in their former nations yet they want more of it? Well that must've been the goal to begin with.
Any talk about morality, equality, humanitarianism, etc. is just a cover and nothing else.

>>18667300
>Feminism has ruined the lives of young western men
>Mass migration turned major west european cities into slums and is in the process of turning white people into minorities and 2nd class citizens
I am always shocked how basic and shallow posters on this board are. Actual twitter teenager talking points and scope.

>>18667415
Both are true though.

>>18667466
>oh no, women can vote and prices are lower due to cheap workers, my life is ruined nooooooo i wish i was a janitor who'd go home to beat my hostage life nooooo (((they))) took this from me

basic

>>18667473
Nta but reframing an argument in a snarky feminine way isn't an actual rebuttal and just makes you look asshurt

>>18667473
Women have been allowed to vote for 100 years dude, if you seriously think that is what most people are against when they talk about feminism you're frankly retarded.
>prices are lower
Bo they're not lmao, they've risen significantly in just the last 6 years.
>cheap workers
Availability of cheap labour drives down wages (duh) which is bad for the locals, but a large % of immigrants don't even work and are mearly a tax burden, so you get banged from both ends if you're a native.

But what are your explanations for why men are more miserable than ever and why the west is solwly turning into a giant slum?

>>18667487
There is no argument to reframe, that post is just whining.

>>18667491
You're so fucking stupid it hurts.

>>18667489
Bro, the price of a product or service includes the labour paid to provide it.
Haircuts are expensive, and they would be MORE expensive if there were fewer workers. Same for dentistry, same for construction and homes, same for cars and auto repair, same for all eateries, same for everything.

Driving down wages drives down prices. If you think prices are high now, they'd be much higher if there weren't human imports and women working.

This is common sense stuff.

>>18667491
You're still doing it

>>18667509
Theory and reality doesn't always match y'know? Most female jobs are basically just a way to shuffle money around and contribute nothing to the economy, if anything they make prices higher because they don't need to exist in the first place but companies are given subsidiez for having them, if they're not straight up forced to have them.
Migrant labour is a bit different but they drive down wages more than they decrease costs, clearly.

>>18667514
>my feelings dont care about facts, let me tell you how i feel about women working
ok retard

You are so rigidly autistic and dumb, aoj