up or whatever

>>18665169
This board has always been anti-Christian. Nobody said “Christ is king” until quarantine

>>18665169
Every word out of your mouth is cope.
You eat cope.
Drink cope.
Breathe cope.
Dream cope.

Worldwide religiosity is consistently correlated with lower IQ than the absence of religion. You simply don't understand the arguments. It's like an alien language spoken by your intellectual superiors from outer space.

>>18665169
Like God gives a shit about rightoids or leftoids. You are just on politics with extra steps BUT GOD IS ON MUH SIDE.

>>18665178
And you are supposed to be the smart one? Its usually the idiots who start spouting nonsense about IQs unprompted.

>>18665187
White people are atheist and high iq
Brown people are religious and low-to-mid iq

>>18665187
I'm just sharing the scientific facts with you. Religiosity correlates with stupidity. Consistently.

>>18665178
>argument from incredulity
>argument from popularity
These work on you because you want to believe you're a monkey. But they aren't actually valid. You're an atheist because of your wicked, sinful heart. Not because you have a high IQ. Enjoy Hell.

>>18665201
I'm not religious because I don't believe in stories from the Bible and Quran. No, Moses did not part the Red Sea. No, your imaginary friend in the sky did not ask jews to mutilate their genitals. That's called schizophrenia. No, there's no such thing as a magic jew who can walk on water and come back from the dead.

If you believe stories such as these, you are as intelligent as a child who believes in Santa Claus.

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>>18665197
>Religiosity correlates with stupidity. Consistently
What is this cope? Its the other way around. There is no shortage of midwittery when it comes to atheists.

I think there should be more antireligious threads, not less.

>>18665255
the lower iq you are the more likely u will believe things without proof.

like you for example, you will not in a billion years prove your god exists. you merely want him to.

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>>18665275
You seem to be pretty convinced He doesnt exist. Despite being unable to prove it.

>>18665295
see? you talked about midwittery but ironically your already made FOUR logic mistakes in only 2 sentences
1. tu quoque
2. shifting burden of proof
3. appeal to ignorance
4. not knowing that proving the negative is impossible here

and you wont be able to reply to this with any proof either, because like i said, you will not in a billion years prove your god exists. you merely want him to.

and your lack of knowledge of basic logic also goes to bolster
>Religiosity correlates with stupidity

>>18665299
>your
you*

>>18665299
>Isaac Newton low iq
>All of those other religious scientists low iq too
Why are atheists so funny? Its like they fail to see the point no matter how hard you point it out to them. They cling to their wrong misconceptions out of sheer stubborness. It has to be clinical.

>>18665303
1. strawmanning something i never said
2. still not being able to respond to a single thing.

actually embarrassing.

It's over for believers in talking snakes
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1088868313497266
>A meta-analysis of 63 studies showed a significant negative association between intelligence and religiosity.

Why are people who believe in magic flying jews dumb? Why are adults who believe in children's fairy tales dumb? I thought they were smart for believing random shit anyone smoking weed could come up with, but I was wrong! I wrack my brain over this everyday. It's such a mystery.

>>18665305
>being this stupid
You started with some rant about how being religious correlates with having a low IQ. I explained you how thats not the case by showing you how religious the most brilliants minds throughout history have been. This fact flew over your head because you are retarded. Do you get it now, or do I need to go slower for you?

>>18665312
You're not even talking to the same person champ.

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>>18665312
>I explained you how thats not the case by showing you how religious the most brilliants minds throughout history have been

>>18665323 (cont)
also most people throughout history obviously like most today have a feel that tells them there probably is something more to life, and then they look around and choose the religion that is around them most of the time. the best predictor of which religion people will be is the religion that is closest to them.

also most throughout history like most today have no idea what these religions actually teach, they just have a vague feelgood understanding about the things they like and things they are told.

for example, most christians today would say that owning other humans as property forever is "objectively morally wrong!!!" without knowing that their god in the bible was literally ok with this exact type of slavery.

>>18665323
Nice try, but you never talked about averages though. They are smart atheists and dumb atheists. You are one of the dumb ones for instance. I can tell just by the way you post and your insistence on IQ points. Morons tend to obssess over those kind of tests.

If someone "intelligent" unironically believes Semitic fairy tales, they are either schizophrenic or they compartmentalize beliefs in their mind in order to avoid cognitive dissonance. The latter is what happens to those afflicted with autism. Seemingly intelligent in some areas but little corners of their mind are walled off and inflexible.

>>18665327
>Nice try, but you never talked about averages though
so first im not the initial guy u were arguing with, my replies start from >>18665275, not that it mattered since:
second, all arguments were still talking about the "averages", even the initial guy that said
>Worldwide religiosity is consistently correlated with lower IQ than the absence of religion
arguing that the average religious person (christian) is dumber than the alternative (non-religious/atheist).
>They are smart atheists and dumb atheists
this was never in contention as shown above. again you do seem too low iq given you failed to grasp this, especially since you claimed
>I can tell just by the way you post a
but failed to see the two different posters were replying to you with so obviously distinct formatting styles.

anyway, even if your argument were to be granted, and even if every single person above iq 100 believed in your god, that is still an appeal to authority and popularity fallacy and not an actual argument.

you've now ironically stacked every popular logical fallacy in the book in your reply chain while arguing that religious people like you are smart... all the while showing me correct that you wont ever be able to provide proof for your god once, just like you wont when replying to this comment too, because there is none. 0.

>>18665340
You are both retarded. Makes no difference who am I talking to. So its all the same to me. Also fyi, you are supposed to reply "NTA". Maybe you are new here or something.

>>18665347
and we have arrived at the place we always do with retards online who cant defend their beliefs to save their life:
>nuh huh

i accept your final concession.

>>18665347
NTA, but the stories in the Bible just aren't true. What now? What do you have to say?

>>18665349
Maybe keep it to a single point? Im not going to waste my time with your wall of text.
>>18665353
Maybe not in a literal sense. But they do have timeless spiritual truths. They are called allegories.

>>18665347
>you are supposed to reply "NTA"
It had no bearing as the same argument was argued for, newfag.

>>18665357
>But they do have timeless spiritual truths
When god said you can own people as property forever, what was the spiritual truth there?

>>18665357
>Maybe not in a literal sense.
Oh, I didn't know I was talking to an atheist.

>>18665361
It was the current economic system of the time, you cant just go and dismantle it like that when the people werent ready. He at most was just giving instructions on how to go "ethically" about it. You have to remember how savage the ancient world was like. The idea is to slowly steer them until the current day where thats abolished. You have to meet them where they are. You cant expect them to follow your perfect moral standard from one day to another, thats not realistic.

>>18665363
Did you know creationism is more a recent thing? Historically speaking people didnt take the bible THAT literally until very recently. Allegorical takes have been the standard for centuries before those weird literal interpretations came along.

>>18665367
>It was the current economic system of the time
So in christianity moral law about owning other human beings with free will made in the image of a benevolent god as permanent property for life and their children which you can pass on as property to your descendants depends on which economic system is used in that society at the time? Kek.
>you cant just go and dismantle it like that when the people werent ready
He seemed ready to freely dismantle the very bonds between the people within families, and killed almost all living beings and innocent children with the flood including many other killings and punishments of the innocents he did.
He also seemed ready to tell them that for israelite slaves you can't actually own them forever and you have to let them go after only 6 years of service, while for everyone else you can have them as permanent property to pass on to your children.
>He at most was just giving instructions on how to go "ethically" about it
Like when he said you can beat your non-israelite slaves as much as you want as long as they don't die on that day but after 1 or 2 days at least, while your fellow israelites you "shouldnt treat harshly"?
>The idea is to slowly steer them until the current day where thats abolished
This idea doesn't exist anywhere in the bible.

>>18665371
It doesn't make any difference to me. I don't believe in the fundamental tenants of any faith whether taken literally or metaphorically. Some guy metaphorically died for my sins 2000 years ago? It's just noise to me.

>>18665379
I know its fun to pretend to be retarded for laughs, its okay if you dont buy what I said. But dont expect me to take you seriously with a response like that. Its like my whole post flew over your head or you are just being disingenuous.

>>18665367
some objective morality that is if it had to conform to the subjective morality of its time

to me, religiius people are beyond retarded. How can you believe in some ancient shitskin gobbledygook and take it as fact?
You CAN be spiritual and believe in God awithout being in a durka durka sex cult.

>>18665178
Based

>>18665442
When reality is shown to clash with what one claims, what can he do but handwave dismiss everything and attack the opponent disingenuously while calling others so? Probably one of the more extreme examples of cognitive dissonance I've seen on here, especially since I think it's actually very genuine. I accept your concession. Read up some logical fallacies before trying to defend your faith again.

>>18665452
Sure thing buddy

>>18665447
a generic god isnt fluffy and fuzzy like dady yhwh and jeebus who will send all my bullies to hell while me to feelgood vip cloud dimension. a generic god doesnt have a weekly gathering to exploit the feelgood feelies i feel when surrounded by people, not because im a social animal, but because thats real and true god's energy in me!

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Dear Harry Potter believers:
This shit isn't real.
Take meds.

Dear Bible believers:
This shit isn't real.
Take meds.

Dear Jews:
No such thing as magic chickens.
Take meds.

>>18665255
kek at the absolute dummy failing to understand that mid is greater than low

>>18665499
>Dear Harry Potter believers:
>This shit isn't real.
>>18665534

>>18665295
The christian god (or really any omnipotent benevolent monogod) was proven impossible to exist before christian doctrine was even codified thanks to The Problem of Evil unless you accept your god is actually just some evil trickster demon that you can't truly know.

>>18665295
lmao at trying to assert that scientific methodology, biology, and chemistry were founded in the 13th century when even ancients like Aristotle practiced them and had well developed methods and biological classifications and studying of chemical substances and reactions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_of_Aristotle

Its so cute how you think you can we wuz better than black hebrew israelites.

>>18665303
Finding one or two smart people who believed retarded nonsense doesn't actually raise the average IQ of people who believe in retarded nonsense as much as you seem to think it does.

>>18665554
Why do you call it "retarded nonsense"? Surely people smarter than you should know any better, no?

>>18665559
I call nonsensical retarded things retarded nonsense and like I said, even the smartest people can indulge in it and even Newton's theories didn't ALL pan out, nearly blinding yourself by sticking a needling into your eye to see what it looks like is still pretty stupid no matter how good you are at taking tests.

>>18665559
>Surely people smarter than you should know any better, no?
So why don't you trust the overwhelming majority of modern scientists who aren't christian then?

God is real and he certainly does not command jews to ritualistically mutilate and suck infant cocks

>>18665442
>Its like my whole post flew over your head
NTA, but it looked like he didn't have any problems identifying exactly how your whole post was just lies to cope with adopting an inferior moral system because your parents scared you with tales of magical pits of eternal flames as a kid.

>>18665447
>I still believe demons will mess with me when I become a ghost, just not the type of demons and transition to ghostliness established in any of the popular ghostdemon lore.
No, that still makes you look like a retard with a screw loose to most people.

>>18665622
I never mentioned demons or any of that gooblygop nonsense. God to me is whatever created reality and the universe

>>18665643
So your god is not an unseen being (ie a ghost) with any kind of personal agency or decision making of its own (ie a demon), god is just the basis of inert material reality and the universe itself?

If so, why call it god rather than just reality and the universe itself?

>>18665643
>I never mentioned demons or any of that gooblygop nonsense.
You literally mentioned that gobblygop nonsense as spirits via spiritualism >>18665447, though. You do understand that spirits means ghosts, right?

>>18665645
I'm more of a Spinoza's God typa guy. I am God, and so are you, and we are all here to observe reality so it doesn't cease to exist

>>18665651
>I am God
That still makes you look like a retard with a screw loose to most people, but now they just know you are a megalomaniacal narcissistic retard with a screw loose.

>>18665659
all living creatures are God

>>18665688
Why not just call them creatures (ie created beings), how exactly are they all powerful lords of reality and the universe itself (ie gods) if they are simply beings created by the universe?

>>18665692
life is intrinsic and necessary to reality as much as gravity is

>>18665714
Then why do you refer to living beings as created beings (creatures) rather than intrinsic beings and why do they all die and get replaced by different living beings if they are intrinsic to reality and the universe and why did you immediately shift away from being spiritual to being living when I started mocking spirits and ghosts and demons?

>>18665729
because spiritual is an expression you pedantic dickwad, lol who cares

>>18665766
Yes an expression that presupposes the existence of spirits, ghosts, demons, and other gooblygop nonsense.

You are the one claiming to be god, shouldn't you know who cares?

>>18665619
>because your parents scared you with tales of magical pits of eternal flames as a kid.
Why do morons like to assume converts arent a thing?
>eternal flames
Thats even dumber, you think its fear that motivates me? Looks like you know jackshit about christianity.

>>18665255
>live in a world where atheism is a social taboo at best or a death penalty crime at worse
>"Golly gee, i sure wonder why i dont see many professors telling people they are atheists, it must be that atheists are too stupid to become professors"
Smartest autist in the 17th century

>>18666273
Sounds like copium to me, he actually wrote more books about theology than physics. Do you think he was forced at gunpoint or what?

>>18666439
do you think that post is implying that newton is one of the suppressed atheists in question

>>18665371
They only allegorized the meaning of day in Genesis. Christians still believed Adam and Eve were real people and that a global flood really occurred