Reminder that in the Bible God admits to creating evil.> I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.And in the Qur'an Allah also admits to creating evil.>Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “I seek refuge in the Lord of the daybreak, from the evil of whay He created."So, if the Abrahamic God created evil, why did He create evil? Why would He do that? Also, God is He in both religions who sends people to hell, NOT satan. Why does God do that hmm?
>>18666482umm you should just like ignore all that and take the zeitgeist position that god loves you and this is all a mysterious plan, chuddie
>>18666482gnosticism is the one true religion
>>18666482>bible
>>18666482Reminder that Isaiah uses the word to mean "calamity", not ontological or ethical "evil" per se.
>>18666621so are calamities (natural disasters) which kill millions of innocent babies and children good?
>>18666625If God uses them for good, yes they are.
>>18666612>gnosticismEven more reddity than r/Atheism.
>>18666482ackshually that verse doesn't mean what it says
>>18666628so god killing innocent babies by having them crushed in a earthquake or drowned in a tsunami is good.
>>18666637Didn't I just respond to that?
>>18666628So god is a utilitarian.
>>18666640I'd say consequentialist, seeing that he doesn't actually derive utility per se from this universe. But it's essentially the same thing, yeah.
>>18666639how is it not a contradiction that god is just but he punishes innocents?
>>18666654I didn't see any punishment. God decides the deaths of people at a time that's most beneficial to them, not a second earlier, not a second later. That principle doesn't disappear when there are lots of deaths in one hour and one town.
>>18666661why did he spawn babies to kill them before they can do anything?
>>18666664I wouldn't know. I'll ask Him if I get the chance.
>>18666671so you believe in a religion that has contradictions in it because you just want to believe, not because you have any proof for it, got it.
>>18666654God does not punish by killing, he punishes by sending to hell. Presumably, if they were innocent then they did not go to hell.
>>18666677We didn't establish any contradictions so I have no idea what you got.
>>18666678>>18666664
>>18666680the contradiction of a loving god that creates babies to kill them.
>>18666683Oh no babies living in eternal bliss. Down with the Church! lol
>>18666685you cant prove the eternal bliss since you cant prove heaven is real, what we can prove and know, is that babies are born in this world and then they get drowned in a tsunami. try again.
>>18666686All those babies would have grown up to be Hitler, Anon
>>18666686Why would I try again? Did you prove Isaiah was right when you relied on his quote? Lol I'm playing by your rules and your point collapsed in on itself. Try again.
imagine being gay and retarded enough to think about your reality like this to project your unresolved adolescent grudges against mommy and daddy onto GOD this is peak jewish/communist/tranny brain in action
>>18666693>Did you prove Isaiah was right when you relied on his quoteah so you dont know what an internal critique is, i accept your concession.
>>18666695100%. All those retards who had shit lives and bad mommy and daddy so now they imagine a cosmically just sky daddy despite not being able to prove he even exists is embarrassing.
>>18666707I didn't concede. You on the other hand...>internal critique>prove the text btw... did. It was my pleasure. Take care.
>>18666630What's reddit about it other than it offends you?
>*makes a claim*>prove it>"uhhhh you quoted isaiah despite not believing in him so i dont have to prove anything, no i dont know what an internal critique is"average christian debater
>>18666710what a weak fag you are lol god is real you've wasted his gift (life) and you are terrified and feel constant crippling guilt. that's why you're such a miserable and bitter fag.
>>18666723>god is realGreat, can you prove it?
>>18666726>prove to me something that cannot be proven through superficial means like logic and debate through logic and debatetry to experience reality head on instead of through a screen, gay boy. learn to take responsibility for your life and God will prove His existence to you. ontological arguments are profound wastes of everyone's time. matters of faith cannot be resolved by discourse.
>>18666735Why did God make him gay and irresponsible?
>>18666735so how can i know if its your god thats real or the mormon version, they say the same thing, is feeling burning in the bosom when they pray proof of the mormon god? many people of most religions say they experienced their god, how do i know its only yours that real?
>>18666741He'll stop one day. Ideally before he's lying on his death bed>>18666742There is only one God. There is not my god or your god, just God.
>>18666746>There is only one God. There is not my god or your god, just God.muslims say the same, how do i know their experience is false and yours is true when you pray?
>>18666749Worry about yourself, gay boy idgaf about the sand people. daily reminder that wanting to boil down the mystery and understand God's plan in some easily digestible, updootable platitude is the same behavior type exhibited by those who think they can bypass their covenants with God via cheap "gotcha" tricks like leaving the lights on before you're not allowed to use them.
>>18666770>Worry about yourselfi am asking for myself, how can i distinguish between your supposedly true experience of god and all the other religions who say the same thing
>>18666779Work hard. Figure it out.
>>18666791so your religion is as real as the muslim one then. got it.
