>I'm just so tired of righteous Mediterranean supremacists trying to claim antiquity as somehow their own by continuity of blood, although, of course, they would never put it that way and, of course, although, that is entirely false. Or using Catholicism of a kind or other religions as a proxy for this. No Nassim Taleb, no Paul Skallas. The ancient Greeks and Romans did not look like you. They didn't run a gyro stand, they didn't run a rug store, or at least not the ones we read about and respect and admire today. At most, they look like Pietro Boselli.>How can such people claim I have something against Mediterraneans as such? Of course, it could be argued that in the facial structure and things of the sort that as a man from Veneto, from the North of Italy, that Pietro Boselli is Nordic or something like this, but he's very much Italian, and he's not the only one I've posted. Now, Leonardo da Vinci, that is Nordic. You can look at his face.>The Greeks saw Socrates as refuted by his ugliness, and indeed, he was ugly because he was not of Plato's patrician blond stock but because he was a Pelasgian. These were the dark-haired Aborigines of Ancient Greece, these Pelasgians, the Lemnians. I mean, look at the statue or bust of the guy, it's like Judge Napolitano. You can't ever turn your back on a guy with a forehead like Judge Napolitano. They have a stiletto up their sleeves or worse, they'll take a toilet plunger to you.>I don't believe in low-energy HWhyte nationalism. I'm an Aryan supremacist and believe in the extermination of hundreds of millions.>So there’s no evidence and you’re making a circular argument. The identity of the ancient Greeks is disputed. This is further evidence they were a Nordic-related population.>https://youtube.com/watch?v=4kdWvDNGysE
>>18681713Powerful.
>>18681713Romanian-Jew pandering to retarded nordicists online for money, he got a nice lucrative grift. Jews truly are the master race in how easily they manipulate angloid/germoid goys
>>18681713Nordicism is just Rightoid Homosexuality proof number. 13483256. This guy cannot entertain that the ancient Romans/Greeks could have looked like anything but the twinks he jerks off to because he's a raging homosexual projecting his gooning fantasies on ancient history, this is what Nordicism has always been about, a bunch of closeted homosexuals projecting their sexual fetishes on ancient history
>>18681713Both Med supremacists and nord supremacists sucks. Two sides of the same gay coin.
>>18681824>distance>mixture Learn how to use Gcope25 dumb ass
>>18681713He is completely right. I hate Soil-Nationalists with a passion.No, just because Russia was European once in the 19th Century, doesn't mean it is still racially European now after they killed all of their nobility and the smart people.No, just because Greece shares the same name with Ancient Greece, doesn't mean they are related. Modern Greece are descendants of the Greek Orthodox Milet of the Ottoman Empire.No, Luigi, just because Rome was once centered around Italy (a geographic expression) doesn't mean that modern brown-skinned Italians, who are descended from brown migration from the Middle East during the Roman Imperial period, are somehow true Romans or something.I am so glad that modern genetic testing confirms these things. Confirms that Roman Emperors are racially closer to modern Scandinavians than Italians.
Romans/Greeks were blackwhites were trafficked/enslaved and used as concubinage, resulting in the mass mongrelization that currently defines the region, consider that the historical precedent
>>18681824Funnily enough, BAP would look superficially like a modern Greek on G25.
>>18681883>>18681894>nigger tier wewuzing plus genetic illiteracywhy are amerimutts like this? How do they manage to pass the captcha to post if they have the average iq of a malnourished nigger?
>>18681894we wuz roman emperors n shieeeeeeeeeet
>>18681901>>18681903you will never be a real (r)oman
>>18681713100% right. Its so annoying hearing leldditors and normies bitch about "nordicism!" when you dont just go with their ignorant assumption that the ancient Greco figures that build the foundations of western civilization were brownoid frizzy haired turko-arab mutts. Tells these people that the Greeks or Romans were white and they freak the fuck out about it. >HAVENT YOU SEEN DA CHEDDER MAN?!Also, not just normies but even otherwise intelligent and educated people have zero concept of history and the movement of peoples. Like everyone knows that north america was filled with "red" native americans and then white europeans came over and later brought black slaves from africa with them, so thats how theres white and black people in America now. But they think this is the one and only time and place this sort of thing has happened. They have no idea that the mostly Christian Assyrians occupied modern day Iraq until the Muslim Arabs took it over. They have no idea that the swarthy Anoi were in Japan long before the modern Japanese people came to the island. BAP is like the only intellectual in any sphere even discussing this.
>>18681883>I am so glad that modern genetic testing confirms these things. Confirms that Roman Emperors are racially closer to modern Scandinavians than Italians.
>>18681907Those are assimilated Egyptians
>>18681911>Those are assimilated Egyptians
>>18681907Those are paintings from Egypt you complete imbecile.Please just log off this site you are too dense to be on here
pic related. Its a political bludgeon by mainstream academics to push the brownification of the ancient civilizations, none of this is an accident. Its also interesting hows its these old hag women who are the faces of the classics now.
>>18681914>Those are paintings from Egypt you complete imbecile.
>>18681903This is literally what pig-faced Timmies do 24/7
>>18681919Well firstly they were European. Secondly I'm more interested in 1500-1945. You know the period in which white people literally built and invented everything?Newton, Leibniz, Descartes, Galileo, Leeuwenhoek, Boyle, Pascal, Kant, etc.You're just coping because you live in a third world hellhole because your race isn't smart enough to invent a functioning society and that's why you're projecting
>>18681919>white people recognize the history of white civilizations by making great white men of history their herosyeah no shit
wasn't it confirmed most of the 'med supremacists' were seething nafris, jeets and latinxers>the romans wouldn't force me to shit in a toilet saarrr
>>18681917Looks like a tanned blond fella
>>18681931yes its so funny when these based and redpilled right wing online profiles out themselves as such because they just cant contain the seething.
When I was growing up BAP stood for Black American Princess
>>18681908Nordicist fantasy cuck history is like: every ancient civilization got blacked.com (disregard all genetic samples showing strong continuity with modern populations) and that's why the ancient Greeks and Romans looked like muh scandinavian germongolians, NIHAO CAESAR!
>>18681956>ancient Greeks and Romans looked like muh scandinavian germongoliansthis is just the objective truth. Even the Egyptian pharohs were closer to Scandinavians than brownoids
>I don't believe in low-energy HWhyte nationalism. I'm an Aryan supremacist and believe in the extermination of hundreds of millionsIt's a glaring sign of the failure of the right wing that they ever consider this guy their intellectual leader. It should have been immediately obvious from comments like this one, from his need to go out of his way to lash out at white nationalists in particular, that he was at his core just a libtard doing tedious gymnastics to look like an extremist. From 2017-2020 there was this idea that BAP was leading a revolution on the right wing. Rumors that all the young male interns working in DC were reading and sharing BAM. It never went anywhere, it failed, it never produced anything right wing, the dissident approach had to be redone from scratch, and that outcome should have been evident from closely examining BAPs ideas and realizing they're all just libtarded. However much he talks about wanting to RAYP WOMYN and KILL NIGAS and ANNIHILATE EVERYTHING is undermined by his opposition to war, the church, Anglos, racially segregated Protestant societies where people don't racemix en masse like in his favorite country Brazil, "prole" whites, and everything else that right wing movements need to survive. He talked about becoming the Lord of the Underworld, then when the Ukraine war broke out he said the Ukrainians should just lay down their weapons rather than die for Europe. He made a huge effort to try and convince young white men that the Church is inevitably flattening and universalist and feminist, that it should be totally abandoned. This was a terrible idea. A strong Christian right wing in certain countries is the only reason a right wing exists at all today. Medieval Christianity was not paganism under a cross, it was far more pious and devoutly Christian than modern Unitarianism. Society is not low fertility because people aren't promiscuous enough. All these ideas of his were just so retarded
>Im not a white supremacist I'm an Aryan supremacist!!How it sounds: I'm even more racist than those other racists, I'm an ultra omega racist. In practice: promoting Hinduism and attacking white people for being mean to those Aryan Indians. Decrying "lurid anti-Hindu bigotry". Hating on Luther and Bismarck and other evil Christians.If the Right Wing dies in the future it will be because people got fooled by liberals like bap
>>18681978>>18681974Anon, he's gypsy kike mutt, what did you expect?
>>18681985I'm ranting because its emblematic of a deeper problem. He's Jewish but his book and podcast got huge before he was doxxed. People embraced it because it was based off Nietzschean paganism which is supposed to be the ultimate form of antisemitism because you don't just hate Jews you hate Christianity for corrupting Aryans with Jewish morality. It's not just Bap. Jonathan Bowden was like this too. And Nietzsche obviously wasn't Jewish. Supposedly Nazi soldiers were each given a copy of Also Sprach Zarathustra. I believe it's resonated with a ton of "right wingers" because they can't get over the idea that to win the right wing will need to unified around LAW and ORDER and DUTY. I believe this is the ultimate refusal for Nietzscheans, a refusal to believe in holy law and a spiritual duty. They ignore the whole history of medieval and crusader and colonial and frontier Christianity, and just say "look at the modern church it's full of faggots. Do you really think God would give man a list of laws. That's so Jewish. The Gods want us to kill all niggers and have orgies"Maybe God does want total nigger death but He would want it done in accordance with a lawful, well-organized, beautiful society governed by a guiding philosophy and moral order. Not just oink oink barbarian slayer kill slash Will to Power fuck n suck prostitution gambling.
>>18681994Christianity is wicked perversion and weakness.
Nietzsche was taught in my ZOG globohomo high school classroom. However galvanizing his ideas may have been for the Nazis, it was a product of their time, when the Lutheran Church was deeply entrenched in the corrupt Weimar government. Bismarck had brought about a revolution that was both right wing and spiritual, just as Luther did, but from Bismarck to Hitler the Church grew stodgy and out of touch. The Church could not keep up with the times The cities were flooding with landless desperate factory workers to whom the gospel had no meaning and who were adopting socialism in its stead. This adoption was urged on by the secular liberal theologians of Berlin, the crown jewel of new secular atheist Europe, a city of two million residents with only 80 churches. The Church did nothing to combat this rising tide of anarchy and chaos and destruction of order and just sat on their comfortable bourgeois shelf behind the government. That was what disgusted the Nazis and turned them to Nietzsche. It is not 1933 anymore and we cannot just blindly copy every single thing the Nazis did, as great as they were.
>>18681957Meanwhile in reality away from your homosexual delusional fantasies your dear Scandinasians were still uncivilized disgusting savages in 921 AD
I'm drunk so I forgot to say why it's relevant that Nietzsche was taught in my ZOG classroom - because nothing Nietzsche taught was incompatible with sucking and fucking and transing and open borders and degeneration.>>18682002There is literally nothing in paganism that would combat perversion and weakness it embraces sucking and fucking and the Augistinian Roman Credo was to help the poor and weak and protect them from the strong, centuries before Christianity's rise. We live in the consequences of a pagan/secular society where the idols of Apollo and Hermes have been swapped for immigrants and victims of police brutality
>>18682009I assume your point here is that Scandis in their natural state are feral savages so civilized Greeks and Egyptians could not have been genetically similar to Nords. But now that we've seen Nords invent dynamite and manned flight and discover quantum mechanics, without any help whatsoever from Meds, this isn't really convincing from an outsiders perspective
>>18682002Ops! But not Hinduism btw
>>18681915This is a jeet account.
>>18682017This. Nietzscheans are superficially conservative and traditionalist, but when the topic is literally anything other than how blonde and muscular were the Romans, they always sound Hindu
>>18682009Fadlan was probably just seething he didn't get offered a young boy to warm his bed, as was the custom across most of the Middle East at the time
>>18682015Italians have contributed immensely to math, science, technology etc, as have the French
>>18682870My point is that Nords invented/discovered dynamite and manned flight and quantum mechanics and machine guns and a trillion other brilliant things without any input whatsoever from Meds. The idea that, because Nords existed in a uncivilized state for a longer time than the Meds, the natural state of the Nord is an unwashed barbarian, and the Nord only appears civilized because of Med influence, does not stand up to scrutiny.Northern Italians and French are good at math and science, but the obvious elephant in the room is that they were conquered and invaded by Nords subsequent to the fall of Rome.If the natural state of the Nord is a feral savage, and the natural state of the Med is the civilized renaissance man, we should expect to see: a brief spike in Nord civilization following contact with Meds, followed by a decline and collapse back into barbarity after Med dominance faded. Also, the Med areas invaded by Nords should be more uncivilized than the areas untouched by Nords.None of that appears to be the case. Nords continued to be highly civilized and sophisticated on their own, long after Med dominance was destroyed. Med areas invaded by Nords, after the chaos of the migration period, ended up equally or more civilized than untouched areas.
>>18683219Dynamite is nothing of importance, it's just a packaged form of nitroglycerin, which is the invention of an Italian chemist. But you'll just say the Italian chemist who discovered it only did so because he was Northern Italian and had some quantum of Germanic blood unlike the other Italians who descend from the Levantine slaves of the Roman Empire who replaced the Nordic stock. I mean, that's what you are saying here.>but the obvious elephant in the room is that they were conquered and invaded by Nords subsequent to the fall of Rome.>>18682015No, it's because it's what all of the genetic evidence shows. Greeks and Egyptians were not genetically similar to Nords. This is baseless slop.
>>18681713Based as fuck.
>>18681713Pietro Boselli is a handsome guy.
>>18682009>Scandinasians were still uncivilized disgusting savages in 921 ADand brownoids are still uncivilized disgusting savages today. Every single brown person scramble to white countries to live a better life and you all think its a human rights violation to not have access to white prosperity.
>>18681994LOL>If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.Luke 14:26>Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat youLuke 6:27 -28>But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.Mathew 5:39-41> For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”Mathew 19:12 >For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.Romans 15:27
>>18683452The Augustinian Credo that every Roman lived by was "protect the weak and poor from the strong" centuries before Christianity arose.
>>18683373Nords are stronger, taller, more beautiful, and smarter than Meds. Nords invaded, conquered, and partially demographically replaced Southern Europe after the fall of Rome. For the most part they merely became the nobility and aristocracy, because they were the natural betters. These areas that experienced Nordic conquest and/or partial demographic replacement are now equally or more civilized and advanced than the areas that were left untouched.>the invention of an Italian chemistA Med sees a list of Nordic innovations, tries to nitpick at one of them, and still fails even at that. Ascanio Sobrero discovered, not invented, nitroglycerin (you can't invent a chemical, you'd know that if you weren't ESL) and did nothing with it. He saw it explode in a lab then forgot it about it.The real challenge was figuring out how to actual master nitroglycerine, how to take the liquid and control it so it could be used as a device. This was entirely the work of Nobel.
>>18683525>Nords are stronger, yes>talleryes>more beautifulInsane. Absolutely not. Both are beautiful and outliers at the world level, but Italian or French women mog Germans, English, Scandinavians. The men are also seen as more desireable>smarter than MedsNot true for Northern Italians. True for other Southern Europeans
>>18683525Happy replacement, man. But I'm glad for nordicists like you for making me realize you are also our biological enemies just as much as any non European.
>>18683545cope
>>18683545If I remember correctly one of the guys was a Pole kek
>>18683545>replacement>biological enemyItaly had fewer births than Texas last year.
>>18683540Everyone wants to look like a Nord.
>>18683545>you are also our biological enemiesUh yeah that's the point, we're rivals. We have distinct, beautiful cultures that should not be mushed together into a formless EU paste. America used to have distinct regional cultures, and now the only difference between the far Northeast, Northwest, and Mid-Atlantic is the weather. They don't even have accents anymore there, they all sound like generic American English. They eat MacDonald's and order Starbucks and scroll social media and listen to Taylor Swift. The thing stopping that from happening in Europe is our mutual animus. You have to hate each other, otherwise, try as you might, you will just blend together. If people don't hate each other they will never prioritize "preserving the culture" over financial or other concerns. Native Southern Americans and Spaniards immediately found common ground upon colonization and this mutual love inevitably triumphed over the racial caste system. It was only in Northern America, where the Indians and English truly hated each other and tortured captives and encircled and torched entire villages, that the cultures remained distinct.
>>18683586This may be true for indians and blacks. But so what? Just go to Italy or the UK/Germany. Italian women are noticeably more beautiful on average. It's really not close. More feminine frames and facial features. Slimmer, more elegant etc.Likewise with the French, and in my experience, Greek women too. I haven't been to Spain recently enough to comment on that.
>>18681994Zarathustra was given to WW1 soldiers.
>>18683601French are nordic. If you don't count French as nordic, you basically can't count the southern half of Germany as nordic. Even Southern French are genetically closer to British people than to most of Italy.
>>18684402>French are nordicthey're not>you basically can't count the southern half of Germany as nordicit's not>Even Southern French are genetically closer to British people than to most of Italy.cherrypickingthere is no way you can try and sell Southern France as "Nordic"
>>18684693He's using Nordic to mean not Scandinavian but Northern European, in particular Northwest. Celto-Germanics basically. Southern Germans (Austrians) certainly fall under that definition of "Nord". French are intermediate between Northwest and Southwest. If you ask them, they believe they have a higher affinity with Italy than England or Germany, and they speak a Latin language. Therefore to me that is the tie breaker. It may just be more sensible to just split French into North and South.
Med vs. Nord is irrelevant, the division in European society is between those who cheer on chaos and anarchy, who push for the destruction of borders and law and order and call any sense of virtue and authority "puritanical", and those who still believe in God and country.Nietzsche was the purest Teutonic Viking soul of the 19th century and his philosophy in life was "be gay, do crime".
>>18681883> I am so glad that modern genetic testing confirms these things. Confirms that Roman Emperors are racially closer to modern Scandinavians than Italians.Any books on this?
>>18685339He's trolling. Genetic evidence tells us Republican Romans were like modern North Italians. Decidedly not Scandinavian.
>>18685351Just curious to see what he whips out.
>>18685351Roman patricians of the republic era were predominantly cremated, so I don't think "genetic evidence" is very convincing, unless you're biased towards a certain outcome and want the "objective" test to agree with it lol.We know modern Italians are descended from the Roman Italians from actual history. It was only the cities of the late Empire that became extraordinarily cosmopolitan: Rome in particular drew migrants, freedmen, slaves, merchants, and soldiers from Gaul, Syria, North Africa, the Balkans, and the eastern Mediterranean, while the latifundia brought in still more servile labor. But this urban influx didn't leave a genetic legacyIt was a classic population sink. Rome was crowded, dirty, extremely expensive (same "high cost of living" we see today), and dependent on continual immigration.Nothing similar happened in rural Italy, and despite the political upheavals of late antiquity and the Migration Period, there was never anything resembling a wholesale replacement, except in Lombardy, where we know the Longobards did actually bring in entire families, men women and children, to settle the area.But even in Lombardy, before you've taken any "genetic evidence", you can already guess from the Hajnal Line effect that these Germanic people would have brought their same marriage patterns and customs with them, meaning they would have had relatively smaller families than the Southern Italians, and you can guess their modern genetic legacy would be extremely small.
>>18685351>>18685383cope on
>>18685427Is this AI-generated? lol.
>>18685410There's zero reason to think Roman nobles would be shifted Northwards by any nontrivial amount. Also we have Latin samples and modern Central Italian samples. Modern Central Italians are definitely shifted Eastwards and Southwards compared to Iron Age Central Italians. So the Roman era footprint was evidently not non-trivial.
>>18685673>not non-trivial.not trivial*
>>18685410>unless you're biased towards a certain outcome
>>18685427>cope onla tene celts aren't roman
>>18685748who were the iron age ancestors of romans if not la tene
>>18685673>There's zero reason to think Roman nobles would be shifted Northwards by any nontrivial amountwell except for that whole Aryan thing
>>18685842Aryan invasion of Europe was thousands of year before the Romans
>>18685844thing I like = high steppe admixturething I dislike = low steppe, high EEF or WHGdoesn't matter if it's 10 or 100 or 10,000 years after the EBA turnover.
>>18685410>Roman patricians of the republic era were predominantly cremated,what a fantastic cope
>>18681713Clever subversion, after the Greco-Roman world collapsed it was Germans amongst the ruins who wanted to revive and Latinize. Modern Greeks and Italians are still the closest to the ancient stock.>t. whg observer
>>18687613it's true faggot
>>18681899Fact-check status: TRVKE.>BAP_simulation_Ashkenazi_Jew_Romania+Romanian,0.1134093,0.13557295,0.0140991,-0.0171557,0.0192694,-0.00591385,1.07e-05,0.002428,0.0040858,0.01052415,0.0005204,0.0010049,-0.00034465,0.0040723,-0.00713455,-0.00160925,0.0005451,-0.0001813,0.00152835,-0.00565895,-0.00538525,-0.0028017,0.0028459,0.00406415,-0.00017975
>>18688267is his jewish side ashkenazi or romaniote? that would drastically change his autosomal profile, half romaniote would plot with scandinavia
>>18688291Ashkenazi.>https://x.com/costin_eats/status/1701431178199261642>half romaniote would plot with scandinavialol
>>18688291>half romaniote would plot with scandinaviawhy?
>>18685320>God and countryOpposed values, Christianity is universalist. A priest who pretend non Europeans have the right to be here belongs in the same mass grave as all the other CEO worshiping traitors who support immigration. Foreign cults that preach tolerance for foreign invaders should be eliminated.
>>18681894I know that your a retarded troll but I’m going to debunk you cause I’m bored lol, In the Iliad several people are referred to wit light eyes and hair (Achilles, Hellen, menelaus, neoptolemus,etc) we also have later Greek writers like Plutarch and Sappho who also describe them the same way (Sappho said Hellen was golden blonde and Plutarch said Achilles was blonde haired and blue eyed) we also have mentions of black people in writing and art from the Greeks that make it clear they were a distinct and far away people and this is relevant because the Roman’s are geographically; genetically and culturally very close with the Greeks so they obviously weren’t black. Now try to come up with an argument that doesn’t sound retarded>>18681915The reason “classicist academics” push this shit is genuinely because they are beefing with based 15 yrs online were posting 300 memes on insta btw
>>18688341>Christianity is universalistevery intolerant, nationalist movement has been Christian. Pagans and atheists cope every fucking time>CrusadersThat wasn't real Christianity!>LutherThat wasn't real Christianity!>ReconquistaThat wasn't real Christianity!>American Puritan settlers genocide IndiansThat wasn't real Christianity!>NSDAP receives 56% of Protestant voteThat wasn't real Christianity!and on and and on and on.Romans were universalist and tolerant and granted universal citizenship and lived by the Augustinian Credo hundreds of years before Christianity. Universalism and tolerance arise in almost every context as a natural way to extend power over foreign subjects and it's only the righteous anger of the devout Christian that has the power to resist it.Why exactly is mainline Christianity since 1945 the only true Christianity and all the centuries of medieval Christianity before it fake? Why are the sermon on the mount and cherrypicked quotes the only real manifestations of Christian doctrine?> Foreign cults that preach tolerance for foreign invaders should be eliminated.Then the first one we need to start with is atheist secularism aka the modern manifestation of paganism, with Apollo and Thor replaced with BLM and covid masks and the Oracle at Delphi replaced with the EU bureaucrats.Christianity is European and it is Europe's only hope.
>>18683545Germanix and nordshits have to die, so that Eastern and Southern Europeans could live. It's been like this for a while, the sooner you realize that they are no different from kikes the better. Let them pimp out their children and go extinct.
>>18689569>wit light eyesOther than Athena, who else has light eyes? Where is it mentioned? Cause Achilles' eyes are never mentioned in Homer.
