>Muslims preserved Greek literature and passed it on to EuropeansI hate this myth so much. The Greeks never stopped existing, and never stopped studying Aristotle and Plato through the Middle Ages, and when Constantinople fell to the Ottomans in the 15th century, many Greek scholars fled to Italy, bringing their books with them. Europe to Europe transmission. (In fact, the first Greek printing presses were in the 15th century in Italy, because there was demand for Greek texts in their original language, but the Venetians also controlled a lot of Greece at the time).Let alone that that it’s also vastly exaggerated how much of this was forgotten in Italy and western Europe, or Russia/Ukraine. The idea that that the Muslim world preserved the Greco-Roman texts while Europeans forgot it, is just completely false, but it’s feel-good pseudohistory.That’s not to say that the Muslim world didn’t study Greek philosophy for themselves. They absolutely did, particularly in the 9th-11th centuries. But there was also resistance to it, and did not influence Islamic theology much.
>>18684663women and weak men get wet at the mention of muslims, it's just the way it is. part of it is orientalism, part is submission fantasy
>>18684663The Greeks got everything wrong anyway. They thought the natural state of motion is rest.
Aristotle was a retard who didn't get anything right. The Socratic dialogues are scholastic gobbledygook, oriental-sounding circular logic spirals. Later Greeks were alright. They could famously calculate the circumference of the Earth. That was impressive. The British Lord Kelvin said his method of images in electrostatics was inspired by a Greek geometric proof.They were certainly great mathematicians. When people praise ancient Indian or Chinese or Egyptian mathematicians, it's more orientalist fantasy masturbation over glorified accountants. The Greeks were the best ancient mathematicians bar none. But it was only with the coming of Galileo that there were scientists in the real sense of careful experimentation to discover that which fools the ordinary senses.
>>18685501Well the whole point of these Greek texts ending up in Western and Southern Europe again was that many of them challenged the medieval philosophies which were heavily based on Aristotle.You're certainly right that Aristotle was right about literally nothing and there was way more interesting Ancient Greek philosophers out there
>>18684663Western Europeans. Greeks were considered an extension of the Orient by the time modern studies of this thing started.
>>18685491Most medieval quack medicine was actually GreekBloodletting for example comes from Galen's theory of humors
>>18685505I think Gemistos Plethon argued that Plato was better than Aristotle
>>18684663> But there was also resistance to itTrue>did not influence Islamic theology muchUtterly laughable statement
>>18685510the first usage of "Europe" was to delineate between Greece and Asia and Africa. Europe was Greece + all the lands to its north and west, Asia was Asia Minor + all the lands to its east, Africa was Libya and Egypt + all the lands to its south.
>>18685505>point of these Greek texts ending up in Western and Southern Europe again was that many of them challenged the medieval philosophies which were heavily based on Aristotle.interesting i never knew that