>in 1924 Calvin Coolidge created a whiteness map that was so legit a jewish congressman who was elected in 1923 spent the next 40 years trying to repeal it so the US would have to take more nonwhites from places like poland, spain and yugoslaviaI think the only 3 errors in his map were>ireland was counted as bongland>didn't differentiate east and west german>failed to recognize japan as white
>>18686487may we see this map?
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>>18686533what the fuck did he have against Denmark?
>>18686542he was racist against nonwhites
>>18686542It was a formula based on American demographics back before the most recent immigration wavesand there weren't that many Danish-Americans (either before or after desu) so their quota was low
>>18686533Based
>>18686533>Germans>whiteClearly nobody's trying to appeal to a large, unified voting block of recent arrivals that have demonstrated their willingness to mobilize for political causes here.
>>18686580it was based on the number of white people in the US at the time and the US had a big german pop
>>18686533Patriot
>>18686542Nothing. The point of this law was to keep the same ethnic percentages as before. If there were few X-Americans in the USA (e.g. Danes), X country (Denmark) would be allowed a small number of immigrants; if there were a lot of Y-Americans in the USA (e.g. Brits), Y country (UK) would be allowed a large number of immigrants. The actual reason behind the law was to limit Italian immigration because Italians in 1890s-1920s USA were Catholic, tribal, anarchistic and violent, and they were moving into the USA large numbers, but the point wasn't about being more or less white.
>>18686487>>didn't differentiate east and west germanWe've reached levels of racist autism so absurd even the NSDAP would be in shock
>>18686533Was the rest of the world just automatically below 3,000?
>>18686580What does Maciek/ Ivan gonna do when Mr. Coolidge tell him he not welcome?
>>18686865All Asians, Indians and de facto Black Africans were banned from coming in. Mexicans and Caribbeans were tolerated though
>>18686580The Germans and Irish arrived more between the 1840s-80s. While there was nativist resistance to them initially, by the 1920 they were deemed sufficiently assimilated. The 1920s nativist backlash was directed against Italians + Eastern European Ellis Islanders whom they felt hadn’t assimilated.
>>18686882I have never felt such nostalgia as I do right now.
>>18686897yeah it's the fault of blacks not the capitalists that the world has turned to shit you are right
>>18686985How about both of them fuck off.
>>18686894>>18686819So (South) Italians were basically Indians of 1920s with how much they have pissed people of ?
>>18686819if they were excluding eyetalians it was to prevent nonwhites from moving to the US >>18686837go on /int/ or /pol/ and start talking shit about east germans. like say they don't have toilet and use outhouses and stuff and all the slavs like the polaks and yugos will start raging and then some germans will show up and say it's accurate and that east germany is a shithole
>>18686865there weren't any restrictions on latinxes and latinas but pretty much every country outside of The Americas, north africa and yurop was defacto banned
>>18687146They were one of the first immigrant groups that never really had the chance to settle the frontier, so all of their unruly and dickheaded demographics stayed on the east coast instead of being sent west to die in an Indian raid or mining collapse. This drove the east coast insane. The Catholicism was already a bugaboo with the Irish. The bigger issue with the Italians was the closure of the frontier.
>>18686865you weren't allowed in if you couldn't legally naturalize and only whites were eligible for naturalization until like 1870 and then it was whites and blacks so all asians were defacto banned. that's where you get the whole >north africans and mexicans are whiteshit, because north africans would argue in court that they were white and won court cases about it. There was basically zero immigration from the nonMediterranean middle east and south/central asia and no legal immigration from china and japan but I think they came over illegally. subsaharans had no way of getting to the US but black caribbeans were able to enter the US and apply for citizenship
>>18686985this, but unironically >>18687146pretty much. people hated the shit out of the irish and germs when they were coming over, but the irish spoke english and there were significant german towns and cities in the US decades before the revolution so like by the mid 1800s it was like trying to be racist against groups that had been in the US for 150 years at that point
>>18687146More like Hispanics, there’s even the parallel of the Mob vs Cartels and geographic concentration (East Coast vs South West).
>>18687155>>18687161Interesting >>18687188If you want old version of Hispanics those were Irish fit like a glove in fact. Both were Catholic, not mainstream but also definitely not outsiders, hot temper, fetishised women (redhead fetish),factory workers primarily, overrepresented in police and military, being basically since the beginning but in much much lower numbers and so on
>>18687161>racist against groups that had been in the US for 150 yearsso, like black people
>>18687249no one was racist to blacks
>>18686487>in 1924 Calvin Coolidge created a whiteness mapFirstly, it wasn't Calvin Coolidge. It was congress. Coolidge was pretty opposed to the racial/ethnic aspect of the bill, he just wanted numerical immigration restrictionSecondly, it wasn't a whiteness map. It was just a map which restricted immigration from parts of Europe which had become controversial. It's kinda like Indians today, back then there were so many southern/eastern europeans coming in to the US, it became a bit of a pariah
>>18686865Yes.But Latin America was entirely except from all immigration rules under the law, so any number of people from any American country could live in the US.This is a major part of the boom in the Mexican-American population
>>18687829Mexicans were considered white in the US up until the 1970s when race became self-reported and new categories were created on the census
>>18687836"Considered white" is one of those things that desperately needs an * next to it.Considered legally in a court of law? SureConsidered by society, when dealing with the average Cletus and Joan on the street everyday? Probably not.People overcomplicate it if anything, at the end of the day it literally just comes down to how pale your skin is, hence why Jews were able to assimilate into US society so successfully. If you LOOK white, you're literally just one changed surname away from being allowed inside the Country Club.
>>18687865>hence why Jews were able to assimilate into US society so successfully.Ashkenazi Jews are white and many of them have Yiddish (Germanic/Slavic) surnames, that's why they were able to assimilate so easily
>>18687867I mean yeah they're obviously white phenotypically, but socially speaking they've historically been placed in a Schrodinger's White Man situation where their status will vary depending on the observer or situation. The rise of 19th century ideologies like Racial Studies and shit led to them being classified as a "Semitic Race" seperate from "Aryans" in Europe and obviously that had real world consequence
>>18687827>from parts of Europe which had become controversial.yeah cause they were nonwhite>It's kinda like Indians todayeyetalians were bioweapons and brown scabs used as slaves to destroy American unions and the value of American labor?
>>18687948>eyetalians were bioweapons and brown scabs used as slaves to destroy American unions and the value of American labor?from what I understand yes they were disliked for taking jobs but also considered fifth column engaged in crime and kinda obnoxious to be around you can compare that to Slavs who also were blamed for taking jobs but as they were simply wageslaves wageslaving in coal mines and steel factories that's where maybe except some German Americans people complaints ended
>>18687017I am sure the bikes stolen by the blacks over the years have had the same repercussions for our planet as the hilariously bad mismanaging of the planet by capitalists you dense fuck
>>18687254'cept everyone was
>>18688382source?
>>18687254Everyone was racist but blacks were not feared of. They were kept at bay by the law and various order forces, be it state or federal. The real problem for wasps were catholics that immigated en masse at the end of XIXc. Italians, Poles, Irishmen, Spaniards etc. due to overpopulation (i.e. they couldn't find a job in their own country). But in this group the Irish were the ones that were quickly accepted, because like >>18687161 said, they spoke English while other groups didn't. Wasps also thought that catholisism is incompatible with Americaness as the moral (and to some political) authority for them was Pope that was outside of, mainly protestant, America's reach, so there were suspected.
>>18687902Jews were never discriminated here
>>18688383>>18687254source?
>>18688604People based their actions on their content of character and not based on their skin color
>>18686487>recognize japan as whiteHONOURARY white /= white
>>18686533kek, in 1924 America still didn't recognise Polish eastern border. They literally thought Vilnius and Lviv are soviet.
>>18688577Never officially but socially they'd still be excluded from shit like Country Clubs, Ivy League Dinner Clubs (e.g. the Porcellian), and obviously the Klan. Jewish integration into American society was definitely completed by the 1950s though
>>18689599same thing
