did they really ever have a small chance of rivaling the govt's hegemony, or was it mostly an excuse to use the enormous unrivaled power the u.s. had with the fall of communism?
Because there is 0 sympathy within the deep state for anything even remotely far-right. That is not the case with black supremacy, communism, Islamism, etc.
>>18686820>why did the u.s. govt focus so much on fighting the domestic "far right" pre-9/11Going by numbers, far right extremists are more likely to commit violent acts of terrorism against the government & civilian population, compared to leftoids. That was/is the case before and after 9/11.
>>18686820liberals made a grab for power in the 1930s and then were subverted by even more further left elements and no small number of tribesmen, the largest threat to these creatures is the "Far Right" because the far right is extremely anti-corruption and pro-social welfare.You would never have an Epstein on Castro Cuba which was in all but name run identical to Mussolini's Italy and Hitler's Germany in its total war state.Likewise in Italy and Germany Epstein networks couldnt exist, neither could extensive tranny networks or these weather undertown or whatever the fuck the Alinsky-Obama circlejerk was.These spiteful mutants cannot exist when morality and power are joined.The Far Right also tends to attract the most capable radicals.Lefties are very often subhumans with low IQs.Far Right chuds are of much higher quality.I wouldnt, but it can be made, make the case that Muslims are a subset of "Far Right" inasmuch as theyre anti-liberal.Islamic Expansion in The West has been wildly successful, though Id say for reasons other than merit.tldrliberals are afraid of chuds
>>18686827>far right extremists are more likely to commit violent acts of terrorism against the government & civilian populationnot even remotely, Weather Underground had a bombing every week.The Alt-Right doesnt even have one, unfortunately.I wish the Alt-Retards were as radical and extreme as lefties claim.maybe we could actually exterminate these shitlib orcs for once.
>>18686827t. rans mass shooter
>>18686838>>18686841From 1948 through 2016, 40.0% of identified extremists were far-right, 24.5% of identified extremists were Islamist and 17.4% of identified extremists were far-left, while 18.2% of identified extremists were "single issue" individuals. In May 2019 and for the first time in its history, the FBI identified fringe conspiracy theories as a potential source of domestic terrorism, it specifically cited QAnon. QAnon is not "left wing" at all.A June 2020 study of domestic terrorist incidents by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) reported that during the previous 25 years, the majority of attacks and plots were perpetrated and hatched by far-right attackers. This trend has accelerated in recent years, with this sector being responsible for about 66% of all of the attacks and plots which were perpetrated in 2019, and it was also responsible for 90% of all of those attacks which were perpetrated in 2020. The next most potentially dangerous group has been "religious extremists", the majority "Salafi jihadists inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaeda", while the number planned by the far left has reduced to a minute fraction since the mid-2000s.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_Stateshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_terrorism_in_the_United_States
>>18686838>Weather Underground had a bombing every week.Weren't they incompetent retards who only ever managed to kill their own people?
>>18686820The end of the Cold War had a paradoxical effect on American politics because it destabilized the right. You also had "new" Democrats come to power with Clinton who combined social and economic liberalism. This is when civil rights liberalism also really started to get institutionalized. The right-wing tent for decades had sustained itself with communism as its enemy which could unite various groups from religion to business and the military. Anyways, with communism out of the picture, the new liberal order at home became the new enemy for the apocalyptic right-wing paramilitary / survivalist set who had been preparing to ride out a nuclear war since the 1950s.On the fringe left there wasn't a lot going on other than radical environmentalists like Earth First and animal rights groups like the Animal Liberation Front. There was actually a lot of U.S. government focus on this, especially in the Pacific Northwest. That whole scene flies under the radar a lot but they can go a bit harder than you might think in the field of sabotage and are spied on / infilitrated pretty heavily by the feds. (Radical environmentalists also became the villains in various 1990s media like 12 Monkeys and Rainbow Six.) Anyways it's a side of the 1990s that isn't thought about a lot, like these themes of the environment, animal vivisection being themes in underground art / alt-media from that region. This is from Vancouver:https://youtu.be/qtySNoe0gMw
>>18686860In US history, labor and environmentalist murders are far and away the leaders. Both are lefty segments. I got no dog in the fight, but the data is clear.
The USSR collapsed so leftist terrorism lost its main benefactor.
>>18686827if you consider jihadists and noi types "far right" (fair case to be made) then yeah i see your point, but if we're talking about like white supremacist types then i don't see it. the only real case i can think of is okc, which even if you buy the official narrative (highly debatable) it was more reactive than anything. mcveigh was very explicit about reacting to ruby ridge and waco, which were both initiated by government hostilities.like >>18686838 said, i'd say a lot of terrorism in the 70s and 80s was done by leftists. during i think 1970 there was a bombing every week on campuses yeah>>18686932and yes, aside from the red army faction (which was state-sponsored by east germany and was made up of literal psychopaths) leftist terrorists are generally non-fatal
>>18687561The OK city bombing was far right terrorism though. Saying it’s a reaction to government using heavy handed, debatably illegal tactics against fringe groups doesn’t make it not far right. Otherwise, ELF for example would just be a reaction to environmental destruction and the 1970s campus radicalism was just a reaction to the Vietnam War and the draft.
>>18687561>if you consider jihadists and noi types "far right" (fair case to be made) then yeah i see your point, butEven then I wouldn't because Islamic terrorism was rooted in Maoist ideas of people's warfare.
>>18686820What isn’t talked about much was how many early Gen Xers and late boomers got really radicalized by the crazy shit done in the name of desegregation in the late 60s and early 70s that led them later in life to join militia movements and shit like that in the first place.
>>18686827True. Leftist terrorists typically get pardoned by the government and get to spend the rest of their lives teaching college kids.
>>18686820It was a product of the time, keep in mind on a macro level the neoliberal west was going hard against South Africans that were sandwiched between the western left and USSR.
>>18687561>leftist terrorists are generally non-fatalThe point wasn't usually to blow people up but make a statement because they would warn the target in advance (usually). The leftists typically planted a bomb, then called it in, and the place would evacuate. Then the bomb would either go off or get disarmed, whatever group would then claim it and say why, like free this guy, end the war.White supremacists have carried out more lethal attacks that recall jihadist attacks in form, like deliberately going into a place and trying to kill people with a rifle because they are a different race / religion.
A recent fatal left-wing attack in the U.S. recently targeted two Israeli embassy employees in Washington D.C., a guy walked up to them on the street and shot and killed them (they were a couple). The shooter had apparently been involved at one point with the PSL which is one of these Marxist-Leninist groups. The PSL did not approve of that and it doesn't appear that he was still a member.Anyways a leftist targeting representatives of a state like that is more in character. Maybe I'm just going blank but I don't recall that many full-fledged massacres carried out by left-wing gunmen. It did happen sometimes in the 1970s like with the Japanese Red Army.
>>18686820Not really in my opinion. They could certainly have been very disruptive, and were. But there was never a real chance they'd overthrow the government. I guess they were just the next bad guy on the list, given that leftwing terrorism had mostly subsided after the mid eighties. >>18686825The far left also says this and they are also wrong. That is just the extremist victim complex talking.>>18687809If that were actually true SA would have crashed and burned no later than 1975. It is not, the South African boycott is exaggerated. Serious opposition to Apartheid ramps up as threw cold war winds down. But that's more the final nail in the coffin for a regime that was already doomed.
>>18687804fair, bernadine dohrn and bill ayers come to mind, pretty much every college professor one has is a former hippie/gen x leftist--they were very much brought into the fold more than their far right counterparts.>>18687802this is an angle i haven't thought of but is very true. it's never talked about how unpopular busing really was, david duke got his traction from the backlash to it in the 70s etc
>>18687000yeah this is an interesting point, no one really talks about how much the environmentalist movement was at the top of the feds hitlist in the 90s. like it was a surprising revelation to me how many riots were happening in the pacific northwest at the time of ted kaczynski's arrest (not because of it, but for the same reasons that motivated him). i could be wrong, but weren't a lot of the left wing environmentalist types from the 90s mysteriously suicided in prisons? that or they did actually kill themselves because the govt ruined their lives and came at them with serious prison time. idk but it's definitely a slice of american history most have forgotten about even though it was not that long ago
>>18686820>or was it mostly an excuse to use the enormous unrivaled power the u.s. had with the fall of communism?It's always this. Same thing is happening in Germany at the moment. A justification to establish mass surveillance in violation of civil liberties.
>>18687925>mysteriously suicided in prisonGiven how fucked up the US prison system is its much more likely that was a consequence of being raped by other inmates than some shadowy fedgov plot
>>18686860>posts a far-left atheist propaganda website as his source
>>18686820Becuase the far-right went full restard with the Oklahoma City bombing. Turns out killing innocent children makes you a target
>>18687925>that or they did actually kill themselves because the govt ruined their lives and came at them with serious prison time.I don't tend to believe conspiracy theories of that type. There's also a conspiracy theory on the left about a couple of BLM organizers getting killed mysteriously and they will suggest the feds kiled them, but I think they were just black guys who went to a protest once and were later killed by other black guys over beef or drugs. People act like they were leaders but nobody really knows who these guys were, they just say that as a kind of shibboleth or meme that has been repeated over and over again, and nobody on the left wants to come out and say that those guys probably just got killed for stupid reasons. I say this as someone who was sympathetic to their cause. Also yes the level of fed monitoring of radical environmentalists is very high.
>>18686860>James Hodgkinson attempting to kill Republicans at a baseball game>Dallas shooter>Kirk assassination>multiple trannie school shooters who wrote manifestos>multiple attempted assassinations against the current President including one several months ago, but none against the previous one>that guy in 2022 who was about to murder a SCOTUS justice because of the leaked abortion decision>multiple firebombings of pro-life clinics from the same event>the Floyd riots of 2020 killing numerous police and encouraged by the media>cartel violence and its collateral damage, armed illegal immigrant gangs taking over apartment buildings by threatening to kill the inhabitants>infamous cases of citizens being killed at random by illegal immigrants, such that laws are passed to prevent it from happening againYeah you don't know what you're talking about. You're doing some semantic stuff, playing word games where you don't count this as being entirely "progressive/woke leftists" when this is exactly what they identified as. This violence is not only caused by their movement, but the people doing the violence in these cases have explicitly tied themselves to the woke or progressive DEI movement, and the DEI woke progressives don't disavow them at all. In this picture, only dishonest third party "fact checkers" pretend this isn't real. You've posted baseless propaganda that plays dishonest semantic games to categorize things for a predetermined narrative, while not caring even a bit about the actual facts.>>18687926It's a phenomenon you could describe as the slow-spreading expansion of faceless and unaccountable bureaucracy, and it continued after the Cold War. It's always been there to some degree. There's an interconnected, unofficial network of corrupt individuals willing to collude with one another and abuse trust and authority. IOW people who abuse power (when it becomes over-concentrated) and lack of oversight for self-centered and often nefarious purposes.
>>18686827Objectively false if you hold the left accountable for Islamic terrorism (which you should as they encourage and enable it)
>>18686820Because the US government serves the interests of its secret jewish masters, and those masters hate white people. The far right wants to protect the interests of white people, so they were and still are naturally opposed to those jewish masters, and by extension their puppet governments..
>>18688683>cartel violence and its collateral damageThat's not really political. Those are criminal organizations like the Mafia. Anyways white supremacists or people scribbling swastikas and other chan memes on their weapons before walking into an outlet mall, Dollar General, Walmart, etc. and killing people has been an annual thing for years. If we're counting murders the white supremacists have a big lead. Probably 4chan has killed more people than most.>>18688729>Objectively false if you hold the left accountable for Islamic terrorism (which you should as they encourage and enable it)No that's retarded.
>>186887929/11 was left-wing terrorism. A brown communist third worldist killed Americans for working for evil capitalist zionist bankers and to punish America for foreign military intervention. 70-80% of the modern young "left wing" cheer on and support that exact kind of action.
>>186887924chan had nothing to do with those faggots. Pretty much all of them were from cripplechan or discord which plagiarized our memes.
>>18688814Honestly this just shows how retarded labels like left and right wing have become since you’re right that many modern left wingers support that shit even though the ideology behind it was reactionary islamism.
>>18687939They were being targeted beforehand and Oklahoma was in direct response to feds being feds at Ruby Ridge/Waco.
>>18686827That's a fucking lie and you know it.The real reason was simple, most what people call "far-right" are anti-corpo and anti-social welfare. In other words, they can't just be bought and tricked by simple words. So they basically went after any group that could gain a following and destroy it from the inside or basically lie and went after the founders/leaders to get to them to quit or arrest them. If they could they called them whatever evil group they could get away with. from Nazi to KKK, etc. The reason for it worked was these groups being anti-corruption and not trusting the government had no protection like the left who abuse it when they could have.Also they feared American militias stopping them like they did in the 40s (Look up what happen when vets took over Athens.) So they did whatever they could to go after them.
>>18689785If we are going to track this to the root, Right Wing terrorism was also fairly disruptive in the U.S well before they were being focused on by domestic security, and only began to be so in the interval between the end of the seventies and the dismantlement of the last left-wing terrorist organizations in the mid eighties. That's when it begins, iirc. Gordon Kahl, The Order robberies, the actions of that one Christian Identity organization with a long stupid name all occur around that time.
>>18686820They had to make a deal with the Saudis to get the Unabomber out of his number one spot.
>>18689827That said, obviously law enforcement is still made up mostly of savages who will respond with disproportionate force to anything that gives them the excuse to do so unless reined in. Feds being feds, as you said.The Gordon Kahl thing is a good example of this, he kills a state trooper, they gun down a house he isn't in, then in the house he is in the local sheriff kills him upon entering, but law enforcement still opens fire on the house anyway while the sheriff is inside, they then pour diesel down the chimney and burn the house down. And because I'm a good little centrist another such incident was the MOVE bombing where a black liberation organization shot at police trying to remove them from their house. First they use tear gas on the house, then a police helicopter drops a bomb on their roof (There were five children inside, btw) and let it burn unchecked for ninety minutes or so, burning two blocks of houses around the target and leaving tow hundred or so people homeless.
>>18689785>A direct response Targeting a children’s daycare of people who weren’t even directly responsible for those things is both asinine and evil. Why didn’t he go after the people actually responsible? McVey was a retard with low impulse control and the people who think he did something noble are stupid.
>>18686820The Oklahoma City bombing was the dealiesy terrorist attack in the United States before 9/11
>>18686827Cool may we see the numbers?
>>18688814>evil capitalist zionist bankers are THE ENEMY preventing me from building my white ethnostate wakanda!>but they're the good guys right now because I'm arguing with muh leftists and need to make a pointRightoids are such dumb animals.
>lefty extremismmurders, bombings, school shootings and assissinations>"far" right extremismpeople went inside the capitol one time when the security opened the door
>>18690292So true /pol/tranny. Bombing children at OKC doesn't count because they were zogbots in training o algo.
>>18690293It really underscores how disproportionately bloodthirsty lefties are when their defenders can produce more than one example of right-wing terrorism.
>>18690295*can't
>>18686860So you're excluding 9/11 but not Oklahoma? Either way these stats are terribly missleading since they include prison gangs and internal squables withing right-wing orgs.Left-wingers have and always will be more violent than the right, even if they're less competent.
>>18686820The reason is that we had a massive nazi problem coming out of Vietnam and a ton of white supremacists joined got military training and were snuggling arms to militias>>18690292>>18686820Better just ignore all of the incels and nazis that were walking into grocery stores, malls and barbershops in non-white neighborhoods and opening fire during Trump1/BidenBetter ignore the ex trans neo nazi did that catholic school shooting in Minnesota yup just gonna ignore all the nuts that walked into synagogues and opened fireAll of the Breivik/Tarrant copycats are right wingers you piece of shit. Lefties have barely done shit since Ford left office
>>18687939> Turns out killing innocent children makes you a targetHasn’t been the case for LGBT mass shooters
>>18690339Nice pic of before they detrans-ed and became a nazi/Tarrant copycatAre you also going to blame us for Uncle Ted? He was going to go to a gender clinic and decided to try to man up in the woods instead.Shit its almost like trannies need their medication so their brain doesn't turn to mush and they go nuts
>>18686860>excluding 9/11why? would it make immigrants look like the violent backward psychos the Right claims they are?
>>18686820America is a communist nation and leftists are evil people.
>>18690372>tranny goes on a mass shooting>”guess he was just a mentally ill man!”Lmao
>>18687939Besides that, American government financing most of the far right movements as part of the cold war knew how actually nigger-tier they are once you strip all the muh white race fluff.They are just violence junkies with poorly concocted justification they make to poorly hide it. The ones that truly believe into that are few and they usually get dealt with.
>>18688814> brown communist> Osama bin laden> who literally fought soviets in AfghanistanHours without American being retarded: 0
>>18686820Because the US govt is center left (yes it's a bunch of different factions, but the mainstream and the elites are). The far right was their natural mirror: a weak baby opposition they could easily torment and feel good about doing it. They had no exterior enemies so they attacked inside.
>>18690335Nazis, especially American one, but that thing spreads like cancer to other countries, generally are as antithetical to personal responsibility as negro is to employment.Your counter-examples will fall on deaf ears, because disassociating from every sperg that takes a gun, even if they used to glaze him day ago, is their bread and butter.It was like that in late 00s, that's why I left the movement altogether. Don't want to associate with those faggots.
>>18690398>Record that you are destransitioning after getting groomed by alt right fucks>become another repper that does terrorism/mass shootings Yeah if Uncle Ted and her took their titty skittles instead of getting into right wing ideology more people would be alive now
>>18690408Yeah i love how they go from based shooter love him do more to we are a movement of peace bullshit, all upsides no downsides for them and with the backing of msm and all the tech billionaires that have bought up right wing media they will always have the louder horn
>>18690412Sis, there are cadres of LGBT freaks fantasizing about mass violence against Christians spamming this very board every day - “Robin” Westman just acted on those fantasies.
>>18686820wasted energy fighting the far left years before, it's a cicle you see
>>18690448Washington DC votes 90% democrat. The fact is the DC government supports left wing terrorists, shares their ideology, and loathes their enemies.
>>18690292Social Media has completely destroyed your concept of reality.>>18690401Nah, most of them believe/d in it to some extent, though opportunistic grifting is iirc common. But the parallels with the Black wing of U.S politics are real and sometimes even funny. At times they almost come off like a low rent version of them. They even use similar language sometimes.
>>18690335>Better just ignore all of the incels and nazis that were walking into grocery stores, malls and barbershops in non-white neighborhoods and opening fire during Trump1/BidenIt is indeed better to ignore things that never happened.
>>18686820>why did the u.s. govt focus so much on fighting the domestic "far right" pre-9/11?Here's a sufficiently long explanation why the modern ZOGs fight the right, by any means possible:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QK-LTou25c
>>18690335>>18690408>>18690419>HECKING NAZISyou mean people with PTSD?>all the Nazis during BLUMPF BIDETliterally who?the 10 kids who have a collective bodycount lower than ONE night in inner city Chicongo or Detroit?Every White killed by a non-White is a victim of Leftism, a human sacrifice to gods of liberalism and loxism.That number exceeds all of America's wars combined for the past five decades.The Nazis are right.Whites are being genocided before our very eyes, via displacement and violence.Access to White people is not a human right.
>>18690412>groomed by alt right fucksmassive projection from a literal tranny lmfao.>Uncle Tedthe man with a bodycount of zero?
>>18690405>Soviet Union darling of the far right
>>18686820Nobody knows, it's a total fuckin' mystery anon.
>>18690873It is a mystery because that specific attack was in response to government oppression against the White Right lol.how many presidents have White nationalists killed? none?
>>18690289>they're the good guys right nowSTOP CONFUSING US WITH YOUR BOOMER DADLITERALLY NO ONE ON THE """"""""""FAR RIGHT"""""""""""""" THINKS THE ELITES GOOD
>>18687939>against big government>far right????????????????????????>>18690401>violent junkies like Jared Taylor and Richard SpencerL O Lthe left is so out of touch. none of us identify as Right Wing but we all are united in the belief lefties need to be annihilated because they are evil spiteful mutants.
>>18690317Well aside from those white nationalist grocery store shootings, the synagogue shootings, the black church shootings … rightoids really love mass shooters.
>>18690339These guys are getting targeted by the current admin though
>>18690967>uhhhhh im not achsually far right! Nobody cares what you identify as fag
>>18690959He bombed a daycare of kids and random secretaries who had nothing to do with Ruby Ridge or Waco. Anyone who defends OKC bombing is low iq
>>18691184I’ve been hearing about Terrance Yeakey all day? What was up with that?
>>18686820>why did the u.s. govt focus so much on fighting the domestic "far right" pre-9/11?In the back half of the 90s it was because of OKC. Before that they were still pivoting in that direction because the "far right" was massively more militarized than the "far left" which had atrophied to almost nothing since the mid-70s and effectively collapsed entirely as the USSR started to break up and it became clear that international gommunism wasn't going to happen.
>>18692833It's also real relative. They focused "so much" on the Right Wing to the effect of what? About ten years of "focus" thats grand highlight is an ATF arrest gone wrong that killed one person and a dog? It was only "a lot" compared to the baseline of "fucking nothing" that was the 90's. Meanwhile since 9/11 we've gone full panopticon.
>>18690962>stop addressing 99% of people who call themselves right wing!No. You're a fringe nobody on the internet. You are literally nothing without those boomers who make up the majority of your political power.
>>18692937Three people died in Ruby Ridge and the real highlight of that era was Waco. Even though they ironically weren't white supremacists or even particularly right-wing aside from being a Christian cult.Also, can you name a 1970s/1980s leftist nine eleven, either?Right-wing textremism in the 1980s/90s did get up to disruptive activity, but they weren't very flashy. Though iirc a Christian identity group (sword and arm of the lord's covenant or something idk) did bomb an oil pipeline in the early eighties. They also iirc bombed abortion Clinics.
>>18687814>>18686932They tried numerous times to injure/kill people, including pipe bombs thrown at cops.When they accidentally blew up their whole townhouse, they got spooked and shifted to a more pacifist style of bombing
>>18688729How is religious extremism linked to majority secularist/atheist leftists? Religiosity is an inherently right wing tenet.>uhhhh they're brown sooo that's....leftism o algo...
>>18694606Yeah but the Weather Underground weren't the only group either. There were a bunch of groups like this in the 60s/70s that you have never heard of like Revolutionary Ron and the New World Liberation Front. Betcha never heard that name before! They carried out 2x as many bombings as the W.U. but only killed one person, which was Ron murdering his partner with an axe. The more you know.
>>18690859>right wing is when you hate niggers and worship shitler
