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Which is more gynocentric, islam or christianity?
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FALLACIOUS QUESTION; NEITHER IS GYNOCENTRIC.
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>>18687864 ^ is saying this with a circumcised penis btw
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idk dude, you tell me.
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>>18687875
Islam is the most gynocentric.
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>>18687863
Christianity itself is a feminine religion today because it got watered down to the point it gets cucked by every other belief, today as people mock christianity and jesus christians can do nothing but watch as their religion is turned into a joke and for meme material, this is the reward christards get with “JESUS LOVES YOU” at every person they face, christianity is a relativistic mess.
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>>18687941
Its better than islam but its like comparing farts to sharts
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>>18687875
she's highly revered in both religions so i dont know what your point is.
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Religion kills men
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>>18687863
Obviously Christianity; Islam is a very masculine religion

>>18688650
depends on which "religion" and what values they preach.

Some make men while other never gave them a chance to become one
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>>18688678
Islam worships foids, biggest fag religion.
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>>18688898
ok thanks for showing me that you are just trolling, no need to engage no more
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>>18688904
Yeah yeah go pay your dowry you paypig
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>>18688913
>Islam worships poor people because giving money to poor people is mandatory
See how retarded you sound? Meanwhile millions of Christians send their prayers to omnipotent Mary.
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Catholics literally worship Ishtar
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>>18688943
Payong women for no reason is total cuck beheavior
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>>18689061
Who said no reason? Good to see you aren't doubling down on that silly worship point
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>>18689066
You pay dowry to a woman just to marry her? Thats so exploitive and demeaning to men, islam is misandrist.
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>>18689093
Men are the caretakers of women and they should obey the husbands in return. I am sorry you got infected by feminism and you think we should be "equal" In any case if you have such an issue with it just talk to your future wife and agree for her to give it up. You can negotiate beforehand anyway
>And give the women [upon marriage] their [bridal] gifts graciously. But if they give up willingly to you anything of it, then take it in satisfaction and ease.- Quran 4:4
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>>18689180
No amount of cope will convince me that paying to marry someone and then PAYING TO DIVORCE THEM MONTHLY is not exploitation and abuse.
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>>18689182
>waah waah I wanna be the wife
If she initiates divorce (without fault) then none of that applies. Why are you divorcing her anyway? You can get 3 more wives if you don't like her anymore
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>>18689185
Divorce is a right for all men, if someone is being a bitch to me i should divorce her AND not have to pay her monthly for no reason, why are muslim men content with being paypigs to women they have no kids with? Total gynocentrism. Have muslims ever heard about men rights?
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>>18689192
>feminism but with a sex change
lol. Only men can divorce on their own so you do indeed have the right to divorce, women need to get a judge involved before they can do that. As I said we are supposed to take care of women and they do whatever we please in return. If she fails her duties then you don't have to pay that anyway
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>>18689206
> we have to take care of women
Gynocentrism 101
Also muslim women are misandrists 100% of the time, they don't care about pleasing you buddy, only themselves, 99% of divorces in islamistans are no-fault divorces, she can literally say to the judge “my husband can't please me” and that would be enough to divorce the husband.

Islam is more gynocentric than feminism, the premise of your religion is to have women be stay at home hobosexuals who provided for in exchange if what? Sex? Lame
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>>18689233
>they don't care about pleasing you buddy
>no-fault divorces
Then no more money for them lol. What do you think the Judge does? btw you do know #believeallwomen is a Christian thing right? Feminism is nothing but a denomination of Christianity just like new atheism
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>>18689239
No fault divorce should be for men too, i don't have to provide for someone i divorced and am no longer in contact with, also its funny that you shared some text from dar il ifta, an organization in a muslim country with 41% divorce rate and divorces are mostly initiated by women.

#believeallwomen is very common in islamistans too, these countries are some of the most chivarlious cuck-holes ever, once again all of this is because muslim men were cucked from childhood into being female slaves.
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>>18689255
>No fault divorce should be for men too
Men can also go to the Judge and make our case
>muslim country with 41% divorce rate
https://sis.gov.eg/en/media-center/news/justice-minister-divorce-rate-in-egypt-stand-at-3-not-34/
>female slaves
first off nice whataboutism also you're the one who has to support a woman who marries another husband lol, meanwhile this
>This occurs when, during communication, the wife alters her tone in a disrespectful or inappropriate manner—for example, responding to her husband in a raised voice, using improper language, or refusing to comply with a request in an irritable or dismissive way. This aligns with the interpretation of the expression: “He calls upon her, but she does not respond, or responds with reluctance and annoyance.”
counts as disobedience and "the wife becomes disobedient, she forfeits two of her marital rights: The right to equal time with co-wives (al-Qasm), and the right to financial maintenance (Nafaqah)."
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>>18689271
I am not from america, also what you said sounds like a deviant intrepretation of islam, in practice no muslim country does what you said, but other than divorces and dowries islam has gynocentric laws and commandments google "the child is for the bed", its one of the funniest things in islam, also very misandrist.

Islam also punishes homosexuality extremely, it commands circumcision, it tells men to die in wars (in what is so called jihad), women are exempted from jihad afaik

Islam has a lot of gynocentric stuff even more than christianity, i would have converted to this religion if it wasnt so misandrist, atheism is the only fair belief.
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>>18689286
>I am not from america,
Does it matter? Where from and what do you think is deviant exactly?
>islam also punishes homosexuality extremely
Yes, now I see why you want to be like the women so badly
>it commands circumcision
Okay and? Also there's a difference of opinion on that issue.
>wars
There were some companions who stood behind and even had women fight to defend them.
>i would have converted to this religion
No you wouldn't have. You just praised atheism so it's fair to assume that you are an atheist. And in any case converting to a religion simply because it matches your feefees instead of it being true is not the approach you should take
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>>18689355
I studied islam heavily and i was willing to convert to it but i was redpilled by MRAs about its misandry, islam is not for the modern man, it is backwards and has lots of misandry in its teachings.
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>>18689359
So in other words you have taken your desires as God and you'll let that dictate your afterlife... btw I could tell I too was once attracted to those ideas but I realized it was wrong and the whole movement is merely a reactionary counter to actual feminism. gender politics is cancer
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>>18689368
A god who circumcises babies and punishes homosexuals for creating them that way is not my god

Misandry isnt even the main vocal point against islam but oh boy is it annoying
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>>18689386
Babies don't need to be circumcised in Islam, I see nowhere any set age. Most people I grew up with were circumcised in their early teens for example
>punishes homosexuals for creating them that way
That's not why they are punished. Disobeying God is why they are punished. Straight men are created with lust for women but are you now going to claim it's punishing straight men by commanding us to lower our gaze? We are all supposed to control our desires
>the main vocal point
Well what is it? This is all tangential in that case
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>>18689403
>babies don't need to be circumcised
>100% of muslim men are cut

Also straight men can just marry women and sex them all day, gay men can't marry men.

>lower our gaze
It's crazy how similar islam is to feminism
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>>18687909
This. For average 7th century Hijazi Arab life outside the comfort zone was hell. Too hot, too cold, no food, no water, no shelter, wild beasts, wilder Bedouin etc. Women had to be confined and kept separate, so they had no part in any of these hardships. Moreover, even when they went out they were always well guarded and had a convenient sunscreen to protect their skin from sun and sand. Men on the other hand had to be circumcised (not as bad as the mohel thing but still not good either) and had to work/fight in less than ideal conditions.
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>>18689705
The circumcision justification of the desert climate was debunked but yeah you have great points

Islam in modern times is a religion for betabux, men are not providers, we are people, ill provide for who i want to provide for.
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>>18689737
>The circumcision justification of the desert climate was debunked
I'm not justifying circumcision. Just saying men have to do it but not women (except East Africans and I think some Yemenis)
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>>18687863
Christianity; Islam is a masculine religion
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Catholicism. But because the Father is divine the patriarchal element infinitely outweighs the gynocentrism. So proportionately it's really 1:0 patriarchical--gynocentric. Paradoxical. Besides this proportional way of looking at it, I would say we are more gynocentric by measure than say, Islam. Because true religion is more of everything compared to false religion. It is notable that Jews have notoriously overbearing mothers. So Islam is behind the aforementioned two.
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>>18689737
>ill provide for who i want to provide for.
from your post it seems like you want to provide for other men
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>>18691327
"You are gay lol gotcha oh how could you tell that i am a godfag?"
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>>18689271
>Men can also go to the Judge and make our case
Not true tho



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