When I observe radical believers I think two things>wow that seems like a great life to live, having so much faith in the future>it's a shame it's most likely not trueDiscuss
This is why I pretend that it is in fact true. I make like half the threads on this board shitting on atheists despite being one myself because I want more people to enjoy the comforts of faith. I'd like to think I'm pretty good at arguing for the existence of God because I know where the weak points of the arguments are and how to hide them through rhetorical trickery.I suspect many clergymen are in the same boat.
>>18688137big if true, I have a lot of questionsdo you wish it to be true? I have been studying religion for years somehow hoping that it will become true if I find the secret
>>18688142>do you wish it to be true?Obviously not, that would mean I'm hellbound for not believing in it.
>>18688148>that would mean I'm hellbound for not believing in it.Incorrect.
>>18688096>most likelyPeople severely over-estimate the validity of their likelihood assessment. On top of not understanding what likelihoods actually are. They are an admission of ignorance. You have a set of premises you trust. And you gauge from them if you should bet on the thing you're evaluating. To say "it's most likely not true" is to say "this thing wouldn't really jibe with the things I already trust". And that is fine but you cannot live your life based on likelihoods, because most premises are wrong. In general. Not just yours, but definitely yours as well. What you're finding out with this heuristic isn't truth, it's the limits of safespace where you can keep your inherited worldview.That's why you're drawn to fanatics. Because they are actually using the correct method to find truth - instead of starting with a set of milquetoast premises they were taugth as kids and filtering ideas through that, they take a few premises and push them as far as they can. In 5 years they will learn more about what's true and what isn't than a milquetoast filter would reveal to you in 100. They are encountering reality. Through some really weird situations, I admit. Sometimes running face-first into a wall. Sometimes not even realizing they ran into it, because they cherish the premises they inherited the same way you do. But stumbling in the dark sure beats sitting in it and trying to likelihood your way into what's around you.
>>18688230spent the past hour listening to thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ_8Jyj7LYctotally pumped up for the kingdom right now
>>18688230>bro just believe a bunch of crazy shit and then try to figure out what kinds of even crazier shit follow from it, otherwise you're a pussy or something idklol
>>18688234Every mentally ill person watches hours of YouTube.You're the exception, Anon, surely?
>>18688261I'm not sure about that, but anyway....I really want this stuff to be true, I even put a Bible open on the page of Daniel 12 next to the picture of my dead son. Wishing one day to be resurrected and march with him on the earth as immortalsProblem is I can't really believe it and in fact I can't believe anyone believes it trulybut maybe God will reveal himself to me one day
>>18688262If you aren't sure if you're the exception, you need to immediately change your behavior.I can smell suicidal ideation, Anon.
>>18688271calm down, drama queen
>>18688234Amen>>18688245You already believe a bunch of crazy shit. All I'm recommending is that you put your money where your mouth is.
>>18688491>AmenDid you watch (some) of it or not? Guy is a great evangelist. Got me f'n psyched up for end of time
>>18688502I skimmed through it. Understanding basic German makes it lose a little momentum since everything is immediately repeated, but I like his vitality.
>>18688506I enjoyed it a lot as someone trying to learn German. That lady did a good job and there was a guy in the audience who was like a master translator correcting her several times. Good times were had by all
>>18688137is this really good in the long term though , this might result in a blind leading the blind situation.
>>18688096I just hope for a truly good and benevolent God who will see that I tried to be intellectually honest and a good person.Having to perform specific rituals and subscribing to a specific sub-sect of a wider group of religions in order to get saved seems pretty arbitrary to me. Especially when there is no objective way to tell which of the many religions is the true one.
>this adaptive belief that I can't disprove is bad because uhhhh... it just is!ok
>>18689946It's mostly harmless because people don't actually behave like it's true. Most Christians very much try not to die, even though heaven would be a straight up improvement. People say Jesus or Mother Mary will protect them, but they still put on seatbelts.