Let's be honest, going to Russia in 1812 was much more retarded than doing it in 1941.The Russian empire was actually larger than even the fucking USSR and not even cars existed back then. What was Napoleon thinking? At least Hitler had modern technology and airplanes and radio and stuff.
>>18688767He was actually thinking somewhat similarly to Hitler, "I'll invade, fuck them up, and they'll come to terms/collapse". The problem both of them had is that last part didn't happen.
>>18688770It's easy to underestimate the vastness of the planet when you come from Europe. It turns out, the planet is really really fucking gigantic while Europe is comparatively tiny. I've heard reports where Wehrmacht complained that no matter how many weeks or months they travel, the vast distances just keep going. When they finally arrived in Moscow they were already buckbroken by the distance and demoralized
>>18688785During the Crusades the crusaders didn't know exactly how far Jerusalem was from home and thought if they got to the Balkans or something they'd be there but were stunned at the actual distance.
when the Civil War started they thought the South would be defeated by summer's end because everyone underestimated how big the place actually was
>>18688767>Let's be honest, going to Russia in 1812 was much more retarded than doing it in 1941.With benefit of hindsight, all losing wars seem retarded. That said, it's not more retarded than 1941. Hitler's campaigns relied on mobilizing male factory worker population, doing a quick 5 minute adventure blitzkrieg and demobilizing right after. This strategy was not viable for long campaigns. Sure, USSR was right in the middle of it's army modernization/reform, but expecting a campaign on the largest country in the world to be a quick one just like Poland or France is delusional. 6 months to Moscow and they sign the surrender even more so. Perhaps his medication regiment compounded with self induced delusions that aryan superiority is the prevailing metric to judge the outcome of the war is what led Hitler to believe he could do this. At some point along the way, he unironically bought into his own propaganda too much and lost sight of reality that no matter how good your technology is and how much quality you have, the quantity always triumphs in the long run. Many such cases in the history
>>18689249>no matter how good your technology is and how much quality you have, the quantity always triumphs in the long runThis isn’t even close to being true.
>>18689254Your bragging point is the fact that US failed to achieve a victory against technologically inferior Chinese? Last I checked, we have two koreas
>>18689254>a war in which America got overwhelmed by Chinese hordes and got pushed back until it achieved a stalemate despite overwhelming techbological superiorityIronically if mutts didn't underestimate the Chinese, they wouldn't have lost
>>18688804It was more that they underestimated Southern resistance. Shiloh was the first battle of the war where everyone realized just how serious this shit was.
>>18689263>>18689373America's goal was to preserve South Korea, a sovereign state thet the North invaded. A) We succeed B) Your point about quantity always winning is fucking retarded, because then there would be no successful guerilla movements
>>18689384If I recalled correctly US forces pushed North Koreans right up to the Chinese border, the promptly retreated to the half way point under overwhelming assaults of the Chinese>Uhmm actually, I didn't even want the whole Korea, I just wanted halfThe fact is that Chinese could provide equal parity without any of US technological advancements is a sufficient evidence on quantity over quality since US including Koreans, US was only really outmatched 2 to 1. The fact that higher quality failed to a factor of 2 is proof in itself. Won some battles, failed to win the war
>>18689399>the promptly retreated to the half way point under overwhelming assaults of the ChineseThat's not even what happened. They UN forces got pushed all the way to the south of the peninsula and fought back to the 38th parallel. You have no idea what you're talking about.>Quantity over qualityWhat an odd hill to die on. There are hundreds of exaples from history where this wasn't the case. The Conquest of the Inca Empire by the Spanish, the Six Day War when Israel was invaded by the Arab League, Battle of Omdurman during the Mahdist War. You made a really dumb point and seem determined to die on this hill when there's plenty of evidence to the contrary.
>>18689425>They UN forces got pushed all the way to the south of the peninsula and fought back to the 38th parallelAre you retarded. North Koreans won the initial phase pushing South Koreans all the way South. That was when US joined pushing them back all the way North. Then the Chinese sent in their forces pushing American forces back to the 38th parallel. It was the US forces that were close to capturing North Korea and they were the ones pushed back by the Chinese>There are hundreds of exaples from history where this wasn't the case. The Conquest of the Inca Empire by the Spanish, the Six Day War when Israel was invaded by the Arab League, Battle of Omdurman during the Mahdist War.First of all why are you bringing up battlers, those are not wars. Conquistadors vs Incas included a ton of tribes that supported conquistadors and hated Incas. Conquistadors themselves could have never conquered Incas, they had no manpowerSix day war was again at most 2 to 1 advantage for Arab states against Israel and those are separate armies on separate fronts which is even a worse example than the Korean war. You seem to have a tenuous grasp on history at all, trying to cherry-pick individual examples and memes implying what has been almost always the case in almost all wars to be disproven by a few select individual conflicts. And you call my point bad, lmao. It's that wehraboo brained space marine super trooper fantasy a lot of retards have. Very common. Also very far from reality
>>18688767Niggapoleon would get raped by Alexander Suvorov
>>18689254This mindset broke chinks spammer lol
>>18689675>the bigger side always wi-ACK!The fact that Israel has never lost a war while being outnumbered in every war they fought is enough of an example to prove your dumb point wrong. But you’re going to do that reddit thing next where you move goal posts and talk in circles because you’ve been BTFO and exposed for having a poor grasp on history.
>>18690095>Ruskies trying not to bring up their intense homofaggotry into online spaces for five seconds challenge>Impossible
>>18690150Napoleon the Cuck lost
>>18689675>Then the Chinese sent in their forces pushing American forces back to the 38th parallel. It was the US forces that were close to capturing North Korea and they were the ones pushed back by the ChineseMao pulled the same shit Macarthur did and wanted the peninsula reunified under the Norks and the Americans driven off - at which he completely failed. Turns out you need better logistics than impoverished chinkoid porters to fight (and win) a modern war 200 miles away from your border.
>>18688767Both would have won if they dealt with UK first.If Hitler conquered Gibraltar UK would have starved.If Hitler did that he would have more planes to bomb the shit out of USSR which was a backward shithole with barley any airforce. Germany was too split.Same with Napoleon if he conquered all of Spain and Gibraltar it would have been easier to hold Europe against UK and Russia.
>>18690336How insightful. If they simply won they wouldn’t have lost. You should publish this.
>>18690343Retard Russia was nothing to fear 1v1 that was my point and UK are rats (just like their jewish masters) only way to deal with rats is to cut their food source