An idol would easily come from a free people, a conquering empire that regardless of the existence or nonexistence of their god can build temples and force itself upon its world, the miracles of said God would only be proof of the physical strength of the nationIt had to be slaves, the unfree, the unimportant, the subjugated and pathetic, who did miracles. Because if the God they worship can raise these to overthrow the Rome of the divine emperors, what can he not do? What iron chariots remain? What thor, what zeus, what brahma, what moloch or what vishnu, can stand up to the americans who carry their crucified God with an atomic bomb?(Picture unrelated)
>>18688778thank you Nietzsche but there is more to Christianity than the sermon on the mount
>>18688778>picrelPOV: You are talking with a "Medchad" on /his/
>>18688778you're not Thor, you're not Zeus, you're not Vishnu, you're not an Indo-European priest-king-warrior on a Viking quest. You are an unfree, unimportant, subjugated, slave. We all are, and the only possibility for us to be religious is for our religion to reflect that fact. Even a mass democratic religion like Christianity often becomes so elitist and Aryan and out-of-touch and lofty that the public abandons it and adopts socialism or fascism or whatever in its stead. It's an incredibly difficult task for a religion to remain relevant.Get with the times. Believe it or not, Thor and Zeus and Vishnu were also just men like you and me. Some Indo-European steppe horseman once travelled 50km to raid a village for its copper beads, and his fellow steppechads were so impressed they commemorated his achievement with the legend of what would become Thor.That's it. That's what you're worshipping when you free yourself from the disgusting alien Jewish slave morality of Christianity. You are worshipping a guy running an errand. The theft of the copper beads. The rustling of the cattle.In other words, you will just be a secular atheist, and we all know where that goes.
>>18688831Wrong, euhemerism is retarded, Zeus could not have originally been a mortal king of Crete when *Dyḗus ph2tḗr predates the Indo-European migrations into Greece.Euhemerus was mocked by everyone else in his time for a reason and is burning in Tartarus.
>>18688831This all seems pathetic grasping at straws. Either you accept your insignificance, that the 8 billion cretins inhabiting this world also think they're special and hacking the matrix, or you don't, and you go ahead and blow up a building if your faustian king self-importance is all that matters in life. Right and wrong, God, the purpose of existence itself, those answers rely on the premise that you accept that you're not some magic individual of predestined importance but a consequence of creation, damned to have the same questions and existencial anxieties, the same delusions as everyone else.
>>18688895>Zeus could not have originally been a mortal king of Crete when *Dyḗus ph2tḗr predates the Indo-European migrations into GreeceDid you even read my post? I said the notion of Zeus as a God formed on the steppe.
>>18688923well I'm not Jewish so I don't have "existential anxiety" or "delusions" and it makes no difference to me whether there are 8 billion or 1 million or 50,000 inhabitants of Earth, I couldn't care less how many niggers or jeets there are.>Right and wrong...relies on the premise that you accept that you're not some magic individual of predestined importance but a consequence of creationCompletely fucking delusion. This is one of the most out-of-touch notions in modern Christianity or whatever religion you subscribe to clings to, that moral atheists "owe" their morality to the religious, specifically to Christian morality.I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying it's out-of-touch. You can show a moral atheist (moral in the sense that he feels he follows a moral code) as much evidence as you'd like proving that his morality stems from Christianity and that he'd be a savage brute if not for Christianity, and he'll laugh in your face. They all will.The modern man feels it to be absurdly obvious that he can be moral without being Christian He knows murder and rape are wrong and being kind is good and he feels these are just intuitively obvious. What's more, in two seconds he could look up the pre-Christian, pagan Augustinian Credo and prove you wrong.It sounds to him like projection on your part: you have an urge to murder, and Christianity is preventing you in particular, not him.I was making a sociological point: at the time of late Imperial Rome, there was a mass movement in society where the old Gods, who were rooted in the stratified, inequal society of the steppe, became totally out-of-touch. The festivals for Mars and Minerva and Quirinus meant nothing to anyone anymore. They looked up at a statue of Jupiter, and felt nothing. He was just a dusty old hero, some ancient warrior whose legend was supercharged and elevated for the sake of storytelling and fun. But the fun had run out.
