In many respects, the Romans were just as barbaric as the Germanics and Huns they fought. Rome practiced savage pagan beliefs, devised horrendous methods of torture and execution, and above all else, placed no value on human life or societal progress. The history of the Roman Empire is one of refusals to change and stagnation, leading to collapse.
>>18689096Christians still seething about the world's greatest Empire lol
>>18689101Rome isn’t even Europe’s greatest empire
>>18689120The Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy nor Roman nor an Empire
>xe wrote in Latin script using a language that may as well be considered half-Romance and living like an ungrateful parasite in a world built by Roman geniusYou didn't need to make a thread to say how racially and culturally inferior you feel compared to literal civilization heroes. But it's a free world thanks to Rome so you do you boo
>>18689101>>18689120>>18689123Why do I share this board with at least three retards?
>>18689096There’s nothing wrong with paganism
>>18689132>using a language that may as well be considered half-RomanceAlready stretching to make your point by the second clause. Pathetic.
>>18689096>In many respects, the Romans were just as barbaric as the Germanics and Huns they fought. [SIC]FALSE.>Rome practiced savage pagan beliefs, devised horrendous methods of torture and execution [...] [SIC]YES, ROMA WAS PAGANICAL FOR MOST OF ITS HISTORY, WITH ALL THAT PAGAN CULTS ENTAIL; YES, ROMA, WAS CRUEL; ITS PAGANISM IS EXCUSABLE DUE TO INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE; ITS CRUELTY WAS CIVIL, NOT BARBAROUS: THEIR CRUELTY HAD REASON, PURPOSE, LEGALITY, AND FORMALITY; IT WAS NOT SAVAGERY.>[...] and above all else, placed no value on human life [...] [SIC]FALSE.>[...] or societal progress. [SIC]THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS «SOCIETAL PROGRESS».>The history of the Roman Empire is one of refusals to change and stagnation [...] [SIC]THERE IS NO EMPIRE IN HISTORY THAT CHANGED THROUGHOUT ITS DURATION MORE THAN ROMA; THE ROMA OF ROMVLVS AVGVSTVLVS WOULD HAVE BEEN TOTALLY ALIEN TO THE ROMA OF ROMVLVS.>[...] leading to collapse. [SIC]ROMA COLLAPSED UNDER THE MULTIPLICITY AND MAGNITUDE OF THE DISASTERS CAUSED BY THE NATURAL CATACLYSMS THAT ENDED WHAT WE KNOW AS «ANTIQUITY».
>>18689135Pagan Europe wasn’t “stronk” though. The Romans were getting raped by Germanic mud hut dwellers well before they converted to Christianity and also engaging in tons of homosexual behaviour.
>>18689120absolutely seething
>>18689135>He still believes Rome fell and not just absorbed by the power shift of the time.Eastern Roman propaganda hard at work well past the institutions that created it.
>>18689136>kvetching intensifies >as xe prepares xir unwashed anus for another epic BTFO>3>2>1>About 80 percent of the entries in any English dictionary are borrowed, mainly from Latin. Over 60 percent of all English words have Greek or Latin roots. In the vocabulary of the sciences and technology, the figure rises to over 90 percent. About 10 percent of the Latin vocabulary has found its way directly into English without an intermediary (usually French).I accept your groveling cohencession
>>18689154Highest IQ post of this thread
>>18689175Now this is a truly embarrassing display.
>>18689096unironically the spanish empire was better than the romanit was far more humaneif anything, the greeks deserve more credit for civilizing europe, and rome in some aspects
>>18689181>the kvetch has no argumentColor me surprised
>>18689289Thread is dead. Lesson for future OPs. Start s,arter threads if you want them to live
One of the most interesting aspects of Rome is the dichotomy between their civility and barbarism. Virgil wrote the Aeneid, one of the great literary works of antiquity not that long after his friend Augustus brutally proscribed half the Roman nobility. Cicero and others thought deeply about what it means to be a man of virtue and it never occurred to any of them that slavery is a moral failing. I like this passage from Augustus by John Williams that sort of touches on it (forgive the length):>How long have we been living the Roman lie? Ever since I can remember, certainly. … and from what source does that lie suck its energy, so that it grows stronger than the truth? We have seen murder, theft, and pillage in the name of the Republic— and call it a necessary price to pay for freedom. >Cicero deplores the depraved Roman morality that worships wealth— and, himself a millionaire many times over, travels with a hundred slaves from one of his villas to another. A consul speaks of peace and tranquility— and raises armies that will murder the colleague whose power threatens his self-interest. The Senate speaks of freedom— and thrusts upon me powers that I do not want but must accept and use if Rome is to endure. Is there no answer to this lie?>I have conquered the world, and none of it is secure; I have shown liberty to the people, and they flew it as if it were a disease; I despise those whom I can trust, and love those best who would quickly betray me. And I do not know where we are going, though I lead a nation to its destiny
>>18689147>The Romans were getting raped by Germanic mud hut dwellers well before they converted to ChristianityLiterally the opposite retard, Germanic incursions didn't happen until after the empire converted>and also engaging in tons of homosexual behaviour.Nothing wrong with that unless you're a Jew. Opposition to homosexuality is Jewish
>>18689096>devised horrendous methods of torture and executioncan someone elaborate on these? I'm interested.
>>18689415If a Vestal virgin was found to have broken her vow of chastity she would be placed in a small room underground with a bit of food and water and then left to die, presumably of dehydration. They did it this way so as to not offend the gods by killing them directly. This was perceived as a "natural" way to die. But in general like the rest of OPs post it's a bunch of bullshit. The primary means of torture in Rome was the same it was everywhere else: beatings, removal of eyes, cutting off ears, stuff like that. Executions were similarly standard, usually beheadings and crucifixions depending on the crime. In many cases where you'd think execution would be default Romans were instead forced into exile (though this was mostly the case for nobility)
>>18689415https://www.jstor.org/stable/300280
>>18689429Oh, and strangulation was another one of the most common execution methods. The Catilinarian conspirators that were convicted and then executed when Cicero was consul were taken to an underground chamber, tied up and strangled by the executioner with his bare hands. This is also how they'd execute foreign rulers and nobility captured during campaigns. If a triumph had been awarded to the commanding Roman general, they would be part of the procession and then lead into a chamber where they would all be strangled.
>>18689342great post, really interesting, thanks anon
>>18689101Guess who (((else))) hates rome. Maybe there is a (((similarity))) between (((the two))). Just a ((("coincidence"))) I guess
>>18689147Cope harder christcuck
>>18689479The romans had way more biomass and political organization but still got btfod by tribals often.
>>18689612It's understandable when you have retarded generals like Varus and it's cause was the root of corruption. But ironically corruption was amplified during christian Rome which paved the way to feudalism where feudal lords and women became stronger and stronger because christian rulers were pathetic weaklings like honorius and arcadius because they were so cucked by christian values. Lords bribed rulers to give them more land because they were so cucked by christcuckery and the pope. You can notice that kings started to become stronger once they centralized and striped the power of the church away
