Today we're looking at Joseph Stalin, born Ioseb Besarionis dze JughashviliJoseph Stalin (12/18/1878 - 3/5/1953) was a Georgian who was the first major head of the USSR, including during WW2, as well as its longest serving head. His actions went on to shape much of the USSR's subsequent historySome notable feats or facts include>Born in Gori in east Georgia. Only child to survive past infancy. Father was an abusive alcoholic shoemaker. >Facial scars after 1884 from smallpox that he tried to have edited out of his photos if possible. Left arm was partly crippled after being hit by a carriage>Enrolled as a priest but got bored and joined the RSDLP instead. Became the newspaper editor for Pravda and fundraiser>Arrested and exiled internally multiple times before the revolution. Joined the Politburo after 1917>Began to seize power. Took control after Lenin died and purged Trotsky. Became well known for his purges>Adopted the "Socialism in One Country" ideology and replaced Lenin's economic plans with the Five-year Plan System>Achieved collectivization and rapid industrialization at the cost of a severe famine from '30 - 33, especially in Ukraine>Initiated the Great Purge against "enemies of the working class" from '34 to '39, killing at least 700k>Signed a non-aggression pact with Germany in '39 and helped invade Poland. Invaded Finland with extreme difficulties. Annexed the Baltic states>Invaded by Germany in '41. Despite initial losses, recovered and captured Berlin in April '45>Became the world's other superpower post-war, starting the Iron Curtain>Oversaw the Doctor's Plot hoax in '51 - '53>Died of a stroke that he possibly could have survived if people weren't too scared to check up on him. Denounced by successor Khruschev and many policies "de-Stalinized"What do you think of the guy whose mom wished he would've been a priest? Link to previous thread: >>18691767
>>18693769literally Satan. genocider and deporter. ruiner of my country.
>>18693769Based Commie killer!!!!
>do you remember the tsar>im like the tsar-Stalin explaining his job to his mom
>>18693791"should've been a priest, scrub"-unimpressed mom
45 years of inhuman slavery visited on us because of him
>>18693769Ruined the Soviet Union and now we're all dealing with his mess
>Stalin's health declined after the war. He took a badly-needed vacation for several months in 1945 and had a minor stroke that fall. His mental state got worse and his behavior increasingly strange. The party ceased to have actual meetings postwar; instead, Stalin would invite guests to bizarre all-night dinners at his dacha and force them to get drunk in the hope they would say something incriminating. These dinners also included movie viewings, often with bootleg copies of Hollywood films. Stalin's tastes invariably revolved around historical dramas, Westerns, and detective/police thrillers--he found romantic scenes disgusting and forbade any such movies to be shown. Sometimes these movies hit a little too close to home, such as a certain movie involving a deranged pirate captain who cuts down his crew one by one until they finally turn on him and kill him.
>As Daniel Rancour-Laferriere notes, citing historian A. V. Antonov-Ovseyenko and military historian Albert Seaton, Stalin generally treated his sons with hatred: "The Master gave his son Vasily a rather unusual upbringing. Vaska used to slack off at school, yet teachers dared not give him poor grades. One day, the General Secretary visited the school and asked that his son be treated more strictly. At home, he knocked the boy down and kicked him with his boots—his own boots. This happened in front of his daughter.">Stalin’s other son, Yakov (from his first wife, Ekaterina), also endured abuse once he began living with his father in the Kremlin. Stalin habitually called Yakov "my fool." A. G. Barmin, an intelligence officer and diplomat who defected from the USSR, stated: "Stalin beat him just as he himself had once been beaten by his father, a cobbler who was often drunk." L. D. Trotsky provides details on how Stalin insulted Yakov and reaches the same conclusion regarding the roots of such behavior: "The boy Yasha was subjected to frequent and harsh punishments by his father. Like most boys of those turbulent times, Yasha smoked. His father—who never took his own pipe out of his mouth—persecuted this vice with the fury of a provincial family despot, perhaps replicating the pedagogical methods of Vissarion Dzhugashvili. Yasha was sometimes forced to sleep on the stair landing because his father would not let him into the house. With burning eyes, a grayish pallor on his cheeks, and a strong smell of tobacco on his lips, Yasha would often seek refuge in our Kremlin apartment. 'My papa is crazy,' he would say with a sharp Georgian accent." It strikes me now that these scenes reenacted—with the inevitable differences of place and time—those episodes that had played out thirty-five years earlier in Gori, in the little house of the cobbler Vissarion.
>>18693819generational trauma is always depressing
Stalin sought revenge on Marshal Tukhachevsky, whom he blamed for the Red Army's defeat outside Warsaw in 1920, and was himself nearly captured in the fighting.
>Stalin always considered Ivan the Terrible to be the greatest Russian ruler; he would sometimes walk the halls of the Kremlin and remark "Ivan once walked here." He said of him "Ivan was our greatest ruler; he kept out Western ideas. Peter the Great was not as good; he allowed Western ideas in, and Catherine a lot more. Was Alexander I even Russian? No, he was a German ruler surrounded by a German court."
>>18693769>socialist commodity production
>>18693855Exact moment where truly marxist USSR died.
>At the Berlin conference in 1945, in which Allied leaders met to discuss the postwar plans for Europe, Secretary of State James Byrnes remarked to Stalin, "Generalissimo, you must be excited to be here in Berlin." He shrugged and replied "Alexander I made it to Paris."
>Stalin had a "total mental breakdown" in the first few weeks of the German invasion of the USSR and was nearly unable to function. Khrushchev recalled "He mostly sat in his dacha curled up on the sofa as if he was expecting to be arrested at any moment. He remarked to us 'Lenin left us a beautiful legacy and we (his successors) completely fucked it up.'"
Assuming Stalin wasn't an abused sack of shit and also somehow can managed to attain power, how would things have turned out differently? Would the USSR still be around?
>>18693895Yes, ''conqueror of Hitler" is revisionism, he wouldn't do anything against him alone and most of the Soviet success against Nazis neither can be attributed to him.
>>18694358no
>>18693769You might wanna make these threads weekly - while the discussion is still going in one thread, there's 3 another.
>>18693769>Facial scars after 1884 from smallpox that he tried to have edited out of his photos if possible. Left arm was partly crippled after being hit by a carriageActually why is it so common among psychopathic genocidairies in history?
>>18693769>Began to seize power. Took control after Lenin died and purged Trotsky. Became well known for his purgesHe was effectively in control after Lenin stroked out shortly before he died. I wonder how long Lenin would've lasted if he wasn't shot.>Died of a stroke that he possibly could have survived From what I heard about the event there was pretty much nothing that could've been done, it was massive. It is probably good it took him out quickly unlike Lenin who lingered on in a bad state.
>>18693895I heard Stalin was half-faking it to see who would be bold enough to try anything while he was in that state.>Assuming Stalin wasn't an abused sack of shit and also somehow can managed to attain power, how would things have turned out differently? Probably not much differently, from what I read about him he became very cold after his first wife died and wasn't so bad before.
>>18693895> In the 1992 HBO TV movie Stalin, where the dictator is played by Robert Duvall (who won a Golden Globe for the performance), the episode is depicted with the "bender" angle added; Molotov and Beria reticently creep into the Leader's bedroom, which is trashed, to find him sitting on the floor surrounded by glasses and empty vodka bottles. Most of these depictions come from the testimonies of Nikita Khrushchev and Anastas Mikoyan who claim this is basically how it happened. However, in recent years some historians have come to question this "standard" account, pointing to various military orders signed by Stalin in the post-invasion days, suggesting that he was engaged at least to some degree and perhaps the "breakdown" or "bender" story is exaggerated.There’s a lot to shit on Stalin for but this is Kruschev de-Stalinisation propaganda.
>Stalin's daughter said "The very worst thing of all were the portraits that made him look huge and imposing, with shoulders carved out of granite, whereas if you saw the man in person he was short and had stooped shoulders like, you know, an intellectual who never did sports."
>>18693769i almost want to say he was a logical end result of the entire movement, but in all honestly he was one of the founders himself. it would be more fitting to say he represented the statist section of the original revolution, who then lunged and feasted on the more idealistic chunks until there was nothing left but him and a bloodied mess
the USSR's fate was pretty much sealed ever since Stalin killed off all the smartest members of the party. he finally came to realize himself that the Great Purge was a horrible mistake, but too late. only 80 IQ peasant retards were left standing.
>>18695248MANLET AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>18693895>MOM'S GONNA FREAK
Stalin is important for the course of history and socialism, but his theories were obsoleted by Mao Tse-Tung thought.
>The party held its 19th congress in October 1952, the first one in 13 years. The primary goal was to unofficially if not officially designate Georgi Malenkov as Stalin's successor, shown by how Malenkov delivered the keynote address at the congress. Stalin himself only spoke briefly and mainly to propose that the party rename itself from the All-Union Party of Bolsheviks to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. He remarked "Once upon a time it was necessary to distinguish the Bolsheviks from the Mensheviks, but there are no Mensheviks anymore. We are the entire party now."
>>18695651Mao Tse-Tung Tung Tung Sahur thought, you mean
>>18695781Tse-tung by wade-giles but zedong by pinyin
>>18695615Every time I see that image I think to myself "the fucking balls of that photographer"
>>18695860He took a photo of the smallpox side tooBalls of Soviet steel
>>18695651Mao’s dogshit and broke his principles by cucking to Nixon and Kissinger and well never killing off Deng.Hoxha ironically remained the last stalinist and constantly purged revisionists
>>18695028i agree. either weekly or biweekly (two a week) would be much better. daily is just too many. it's great for when you have a relative nobody as the topic like the george mason guy, but when it's a big figure we need more time.
>>18695028>>18696476OP hereAlright, I'll ask in the next thread if people would prefer and see the responses
>>18696476Threads autosage in a week anyway so it doesn't matter.
>>18696476>it's a big figurefor you
>>18696524Can you just stop making them altogether
>>18698211how does he have so many of them up at once without overrunning the five threads per IP limit?
>>18698462Because there's only three of them up right now, plus one more copycat so that's a different IP altogether
>>18698462he resets his phone?
>>18698211I like them, what's your problem with it?
genocider and war criminal who killed or imprisoned last Lithuanian patriots and send them to freeze in deep Siberian mine or die of thirst on Kazakh steppe
>Stalin was also a music enthusiast; he favored the works of the great Russian composers, along with occasional pieces from Western composers. Additionally, he was greatly fond of traditional Armenian and Georgian folk music and dances.[8]
>>18698462If a thread is two days old it gets removed from your five threads per IP queue (however you can still only bump it every five minutes)
>>18701187Ah, ok. Didn't know that.
