IQ and brain morphology studies have consistently proven that MENA people are cognitively inferior especially to populations like north europeansSo how did they have civilizations? Lucky circumstances? Some beneficiary social organization?
>>18694898If we are being honest, they dont really have much going for them other than the ancientness of their civlizationNot as many historical personalities and their greatest ones are just street preachers like jesus and muhammadMuch of their history is just getting ruled by foreigners like romans, turks, colonials Basically no achievements other than basic shit like farming which anyone would have made with a long enough time frame and retarded religions that spread like trans or BLM social contagion
>>18694898They used to be ruled by white-western eurasian elites (Sumerians had blue eyes. Hittites and Persian nobility were fair skinned. Many egyptian dynasties were r1B)The mass browning of MENA thanks to the islamic invasions and the sub-saharian slave trade gradually ruined the whole area
They had a higher IQ than Europeans and East Asians, pre-Islam
>>18694906That study was made by mankind quarterly associated authors, aka is pseudoscienceOne of them was caught fabricating GWAS data for jewshttps://web.archive.org/web/20230308080424/https://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2019/05/08/piffer-fails-science-prevails/
>>18694899That really isnt true, unless you only look at the modern period there are various figures, a guy who contributed to optics, the islamic golden age, plus about 20 percent of nobel prize winners are jewish, not to mention the long intellectual tradition of hebrew bible debates like the talmud, islamic theology like the kalam argument, the invention of algebra and the indian-arabic numeral system. They did do many things, you just have a very limited and simplistic view of history and your pseudoscientific race science theories dont allow you to see that.
>>18694910>mankind quarterly associated authorsThese people are white supremacists who OP sourced for his claims of north europeans being more intelligent.So it's okay to use them for that, but not for this? Nonsense.Middle Easterners were a lot more intelligent than East Asians and Europeans for 40,000 years just by achievements and records, even without the GWAS data and PGS data proving it.
>>18694920Modern jews dont count as MENA
>>18694923They are not white supremacists, they are HBDers, thats why they cherrypicked chinese and east asian data to not look rayciss. But yes, they also made blacks look slightly dumber than they actually are.
>>18694923European and MENA clusters did not even exist for 40,000 years, MENAs are just worse versions of west eurasian filled with nig ANA and nig adjacent basal eurasian ancestry
>>18694925No, they are white supremacists and their bias is entirely in the favor of Europeans, but they had to admit the historical inferiority of Europeans was for genetic reasons until Christianity helped evolve them. Also, mankind quarterly authors like Kirkegaard straight up fabricated data for non-whites not just for Blacks but other non-whites including Indians and East Asians. For instance, they gave IQ of like 90s for North Koreans and Chinese, while also giving IQs of 50s and 60s for sub-Saharans.
>>18694930I's now very clear from PGS and GWAS that ANA and Basal Eurasian were entirely superior to proto West Eurasians which are literally the same people as AASI poos and Onge pygmies. That's why Onge-like WHG was the lowest IQ and shortest population in West Eurasia.While modern Europeans are filled with ANA and Basal Eurasian ancestry.
>>18694937We don't have gwas data from them, we dont even have real samples from them, but they are basal african like people (in ANAs case literally african) so they would be dumb as stones>>18694934Kirkegaard fabricates GWAS data to benefits jews and continues promoting the 105 asian iq lie created by richard lynn, he isnt rayciss or a a white supremacist
>>18694945>>18694937Crown eurasian ancestry like west eurasian is literally the only reason MENA are somewhat human
>>18694924Cope. They have sizeable if not mostly middle eastern ancestry. White supremacists are super embarrassing, imagine admitting that you are getting outperformed by and have a lower iq than a race of people you consider to be inferior.
>>18694955They are about half, maybe 40 percent mena, i can just frame it as the only good semites are the most european ones, so?
>>18694945>We don't have gwas data from them, we dont even have real samples from them, but they are basal african like people (in ANAs case literally african) so they would be dumb as stonesConsidering they completely raped proto West Eurasian people, it's very doubtful.Also we have the heights and cranial capacity of Iberomaurusians and Iran which were taller, more robust, and bigger brained than WHG and EHG.Wtf? Kirkegaard isn't involved in the GWAS data.And no, he and that other guy assigned IQ in the 90s to Chinese and North Koreans.
>>18694950Basal Eurasian ancestry is literally the only reason Europeans are somewhat human and not entirely like Indians, Papuans, and the Chinese.Crown Eurasian ancestry is literally inferior in every possible way.It's why ANA and Basal Eurasian dominated them.
>>18694959Basal eurasians didnt rape anyone, the pygmies got great replaced, i guess the mutt offspring got raped by black ANA creating nafris though>Also we have the heights and cranial capacity of Iberomaurusians and Iran which were taller, more robust, and bigger brained than WHG and EHG.Depends, the dnieper donets culture for example is more robust than ibm metrically, but that doesnt matter since ibm probably had an iq of about 70.
>>18694964They absolutely did rape West Eurasians and East Eurasians. It's why their E yDNA is everywhere.Iberomaurusian and Iran were literally bigger brained, taller, and more robust than dnieper donets mutts in every single way lol.To say nothing of the inferior gracile tiny-skulled EHG or the midget WHG.
>>18694957you made that statistic up, you didnt cite any study or a set of them and why would a population that has at least 40% middle eastern blood have a higher iq than whites if whites are the superior race? should it not be the case that purebred whites instead of ashkenazim should have the highest iq of all races?
>>18694969E y dna is ANA, basal eurasian y dna is like h or someshit, totally raped by west eurasian J
>>18694971Ashkenazi are about 15% Yamnaya, which is less than what Anatolian Turks and Iranians have.EHG is a nerf to IQ for their tiny skulls.WHG were simply retarded despite having bigger brains than EHG.
>>18694971There is no good evidence for duhjooz having higher iq, as ive stated they literally had to fabricate gwas evidence, and it would be a product of recent selection, not mena ancestry
>>18694973Nah. ANA and Basal Eurasian were siblings, so both would've had E.Anyone who thinks Basal Eurasian didn't have E is just retarded.
>>18694901whites were slaves, the term slave refers to whites for a reason because that was the lot provided to them
>>18695037It refers to germanics enslaving slavs, nothing to due with your lot (MENA) who had a long reputation as a slave race in greco-roman times
>>18695043Cope.MENA literally enslaved Slavs, Germans, Iberians, French, British, even Icelandics.
>>18695043Did it ever occur to you why slave slav etymology is exclusive to european langauges?
>>18695044>Slavs, germansSold by vikangz (germanics) and other slavs>british, icelandicsBy barbary pirates of european ancestryIf you wanted actual examples to be proud ofyou would use greeks (if paternally mycenean-turkic mutts are "MENA), italians and spaniards (as you have mentioned)but you would have to reconcile 1000 years of macedonian - roman slavery then, wouldn't you?
>>18695043 Shitskins ran and managed every operation. Germanics arent slavers, they are slaves.
>>18695058Yeah bro, arabs came with big nets to poland and russia and enslaved slavs, the weaklings totally didnt just buy them from vikangz and other slavs
>>18695061if it isnt obvious, useful idiots is how this system works, existing as a means to and end, nothing more
>>18695056They are hella deluded, lets not forget the european trade of muslims slaves in the mediterrenean was just as large if not larger
>>18695074And the icelandic trade was a handful of individuals by a dutch captain, not sure why browns are obsessed with this when their moorish grandma was getting raped in malta
>>18695056>Sold by vikangz (germanics) and other slavsGermans were sold into slavery by Anatolians.Pretty much every Muslim empire enslaved Slavs for over 1000 years.Barbary pirates were predominantly Turkish and Arab and they sold the British and Dutch and Icelandics into slaveryMacedonians and Romans tried to assimilate them.Roman mostly enslaved Europeans and some Assyrians.
>>18695074european slavery was managed by legacy Elite networks (shitskins), its their enterprise. The host might change but the agendas do not
>>18695074I was looking for a book that discusses this for a while now. Where are those passages from?
>>18694920>about 20 percent of nobel prize winners are jewishAshkenazis have less than 40% of semitic blood in them.
>>18695037Slavs were brought as slaves across the mediterranean by scandinavians retardsMuslims had a lot of slaves of different races and each race had usually a specific niche (black slaves had to work on farms; whites ones were palace dignitares and concubines if young and good looking; turks were usually soldiers)
>>18695100Why are you calling him "retard" when you are clearly dumber?The ones in charge of the Germanic slaves and Slavic slaves sent across the Mediterranean were Jews and Italians. Then later Arabs and Turks under the Umayyads, Ottomans, and Barbary Corsairs.
>>18695117OK ednilson macaque dos santos III
>>18695117The barbary pirates enslaved almost exclusively southern europeansThat's the problem for spic pan med larpers like you isnt it?You resent mostly northern europeans, but brown Ws are mostly against southern europeans, but if you claim those Ws, they are nothing compared to 1000 years of roman-macedonian rape.A real catch 22 macaque bro, isnt it?(The barbary pirates were mostly european converts anyways, so not really even a W)
>>18695125You're attacking southern europeans constantly and then using "roman-macedonian" wins because northern european slaves were a common sight in MENA but the reverse never happened. What a retard.
>>18695128I do not hate southern europeans, MENAs and spics just have a tendency of claiming them when convienient in an anti northern european context, since northern europeans conquered mena but the reverse never happened.Again, MENA rarely directly captured northern european slaves, at most bought them, the reverse could not be said with germanic, english, northen french pirates operating in the med.
>>18695134Not to mention the humiliations of colonialist as well as american influence
>>18695134>>18695128Again, your hilarously long history of foreign subjugation by europeans and non europeans alike can not be reconciled with your brown izzat farming delusions.
>>18695134MENA ruled over northern europe for centuries.Millions of northern european slaves in MENA.But there was a never a time when there was even thousands of MENA as slaves in Northern Europe.
>>18695077Romans were european (genetically closest to modern Spaniards). At least the Republican ones.
>>18695640No, their closest relatives are Italians.The Spaniard thing is only on G25 because Spaniards have very low steppe and the Romans had very low steppe.While northern Italians have higher steppe than both which makes them a bit further on G25.
>>18695654Even if that's true: Most Spaniards are closer to republican Romans than most Italians are. It's just northern Italian that are comparably close (as a result of additional northern admixture that evens out the Imperial admixture), rest of Italy is quite distant to Romans. And that wouldnt change the point, northern Italians are also undeniably european.
>>18695706Retard, that's only on G25.In terms of actual ancestry, the Italians, north or south, have the most in the world. Spaniards have barely any Roman ancestry.They just look similar on G25 because both have little steppe ancestry.
>>18695140Lol northern europe pretty much conquered nearly each part of it, the reverse never happened.
>>18694898Prior to the economic and industrial revolutions in the west during the last few it simply wasn't that necessary for the whole population to be that intelligent. You don't need peasants to be particularly smart for them to generate sustainable revenue, especially when basic agricultural practices have remained basically unchanged for millennia. With an average IQ of around 80-95, with higher IQs selected for within more elite strata of society, its entirely feasible to have enough people smart enough to operate as merchants, bureaucrats, scribes and traditional scholars to keep these sort of societies going. Up until the later Middle Ages, there is no reason to think Europe was any different. If anything, in the 10th century, Anglo-Saxons probably had lower IQs on average than Arabs of Al-Andalus or Baghdad. Scholarship was limited mostly to celibate clerics and there wasn't exactly much in the way of selective pressure for high IQ traits for the vast majority of the population. It was only with the divergences which start to emerge around the 14th-15th century that parts of Europe (starting primarily in Northern Italy and Flanders) begin to develop sufficiently complex economies where large proportions of the population require literacy and numeracy skills in daily life. Its only from that point onwards really that selective pressures really feasibly drove the average European IQ upwards. Meanwhile intellectual life and mercantile activity stagnated in the Islamic world while life remained the same for the fellahin by and large until only the last few generations.
>>18696184Lol the Middle East pretty much ruled each part of Europe, the reverse never happened.
>>18697238The children of God in Christ forming the body of Christ, the one true living God, subjugated the earth in God's name.Then in their hubris, they forsook their own salvation by welcoming dark hell-spawned demons into the body of Christ and now they pretend as if they no longer see the light of God.To save themselves from death, the children of God will once more take refuge in Christ, identifying as the body of the one true living God to purge the darkness of hell from the kingdom of heaven.
>>18697241Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, Arabia, etc. Not to mention the "children of God" Middle Eastern Jews controlled all of Europe and even killed 200 million subhuman Europeans with ease.
>>18695718SEETHE/
>>18694898Genesis 24:1-4Nehemiah 13:23-27Ezra 9:2-3Tobit 4:12They were White Nordics.
>>18694898Civilization is a contract among a community. A bunch of treacherous perverted horse fucker bums from the steppe were obviously not going to create a contract, because they were never a community and they had nothing to offer each other but death.>>18694901The origin of the blue eye mutation is in Iraq. It is not a marker for steppe origin>white westernWhiteness is a 20th century contemporary invention, and "western" as a cultural and geographical descripter was not conceived yet as Near Easterners did not influence street shitting gayreek pedarasts and civilize them.
>>18698424homosexual pederasty was celebrated across the middle east up until modern times (and even beyond, in afghanistan's case)
>>18698429They were common taboos among aristocracy but you can gradually see the high culture begin as matriarchal and warlike then decline and morph into the same phallus worship pedarasty that characterizes steppe people as more steppe populations began taking high office. The gradual decline in Ishtar's popularity says it all.>and even beyond, in afghanistan's caseYou don't have to worry now since bachi bazi is banned by the new ethical administration
>>18698448what cope is this, something like 80% of surviving abbasid love poetry involves male youths lolmenajeets are just naturally zesty
>>18698429>homosexual pederastyLiterally brought by European homosexual pederasty>afghanistanSouth Asian Aryans keeping the homosexual Corded Ware Twink traditions. Not Middle Eastern and not Semitic, but rather Indo-gypsy mutts like you.
>>18699152Was corded ware responsible for roman gay?Yamnaya for greek gay?Wb persjeets?
>>18700415I think conquering middle eastern people made romans and greeks do gay stuff
>>18699152>>afghanistan>South Asian Aryans keeping the homosexual Corded Ware Twink traditions. Only when Mesopotamian Taliban administration rules over them do they start acting normal. The second that goes away, they jump to molesting children. Americans allowed them to go about it to secure their fickle loyalty against Taliban. One of their recruitment pitches for Afghan Security Forces traitors was allowing them to throw ""parties"" with boys as a.. "morale exercise">>18700421Sincerely, can you show me any proof of this? Gays and all their derivatives as a class of people pop up in MENA only after Scythian invasion, and they imported their serpent/phallus worship from their homeland.>>18700415Iranians are the most successful case of indo-gypsies. They ransacked Mesopotamia and turned the cradle of civilization into a crumbling war state ran by an incestuous fire cult. They rewrote history and framed themselves as having a more dignified origin, but this was not difficult given that the English have a poor disposition to all non-indogypsy, except European Jewry, of course.
>>18700415Yes, the Corded Ware homosexual trannies main descendants are gay Europeans, Afghans, and Indians.Europeans introduced homosexuality to the ancient Near East where it did not exist before.
>>18700421They were already homosexual like all Europeans and were the ones to spread their homosexuality just like Corded Ware did.
>>18694898civilization is built on morality, not on intelligence
