>be Julian>blackpilled chud incel classical literature nerd>forced to watch as Rome falls to the christcucks...>becomes emperor through some very unlikely scufuckle chain of events >wins one(1) battle, by reading the Gallic wars and just copying shit he saw Caesar do there >legitimately comes to believe he is some Homero-Platonic hero of prophecy sent by the gods to save the world from darkness >gives pagans primary status again, attempts to employ 9000 IQ keikaku samefagging strata to turn the christcucks against each other >when the people of Antioch boo him he responds with an entire bookpost explaining why they're retarded and he is a Chad>attempts to conquer Persia to prove he's greater than Alexander>dies to an arrow-shot because he thought he had plot-armor so he was prancing around the frontlines without any protection
>>18695104We truly live in the darkest possible timeline. Imagine if he succeeded and managed to finally root out that poisonous foreign religion from Rome.
>>18695104>>18695124Imagine if he actually became atheist, realising that no gods deserve worship because>they don't exist>if they exist, they don't give a damn about mankindHe actually not waste soldiers and resources in attacking fellowing civilized Persia, but invested it in civilizing Arabia so Islam never happens, Africa so the amazigh (semites) finally disappear and Germania so Protestantism never happens. And by being such good atheist Emperor, proves to the proletarii (low-IQ dysgenic parasites) that you don't need gods to triumph.
>>18695170Sounds like he's getting himself killed within a week
>>18695104Looking back it would have been better if julian allied with persia, that would have protected paganism better, fucking obbsesion with persia killed many good emperors, honestly a tragedy
>>18695124He loved jews, wanted to rebuilt their temple and give them position of powers to persecute their shared christcucks enemiesBasically he would had speedrun the kike globohomo dominance 1600 years in advance if he llived long
>>18695221No, he wanted to rebuild their temple to prove that the prophecies surrounding it were false because literally nothing would have happened
>>18695221no way the guy who called christians galileans, liked the judeans, this is probably false
>>18695221It was just part of his masterplan to turn all the Jewish faiths against one another. He also un-excommunicated all previously declared heretics of Christianity and set them loose against one another and the church.
>>18695124Paganism was dying by then. He was the equivalent of East German leaders in the 80s saying communism would still be around in 50 and 100 years.
>>18695124Even the pagans of his time thought he was a cringe larper
>>18695221He did this in an attempt to stoke tension between Jews and Christians. Keep in mind he also unexiled all Christian “heretics” like Gnostics and Arians to inflame as much division as possible.
>>18695210>Looking back it would have been better if julian allied with persia, that would have protected paganism betterHow?>fucking obbsesion with persia killed many good emperors, honestly a tragedyAncient and medieval armies were paid via plunder so going to war constantly was the only way to accomplish that, and Persia was the only peer rival they had throughout the imperial period.
>>18695257No they didn’t, he was a Neoplatonist which was the standard view amongst pagans, his solar worship was merely an extension of the cult of sol Invictus who had been the patron god of the empire since Aurelian. He also supported traditional festivals which again were still popular amongst pagans.>>18695254SAAAAAR
>>18695104This relatively irrelevant emperor still generating this much seething and romanticizing just shows how vengeful christcucks and their detractors are
>>18695104also didn't mention his weird, gross obsession with animal sacrifices, something that had gone out of fashion centuries earlier
>>18695177Cooler ending that the one he actually got.
>>18695221He didn't particularity like Jews as much as he wanted to break Christian power by demonstrating their faith is wrong through their own prophecies. He was noted as not persecuting Christians at all, Christian writers complained about it as a sort of soft persecution which stopped them from being martyrs >>18695263>he was a Neoplatonist which was the standard view amongst pagansNeoplatonism was not standard at all. It was a subset of philosophy followed solely by elites who had an interest in that particular philosophy. It did not represent the views of anymore than a small group of elites. >his solar worship was merely an extension of the cult of sol Invictus who had been the patron god of the empire since AurelianSol Invictus was not a particularly significant god during Julian's reign. Mithras by this time was the preferred military cult. Nor was he the 'patron god'. Diocletian disliked much of the changes in the 3rd century and worshiped Jupiter as his 'patron', Maximian and his son did the same for Hercules. Galerius followed Diocletian's lead. Even Licinius did not have much interaction with the cult of Sol Invictus, there is good evidence he preferred some sort of monotheistic god.Julian himself had little to say on Sol Invictus, and talked mostly about the singular divine entity which Neoplatonists believed in, even mentioning to Jews that they worshiped the same god. >He also supported traditional festivals which again were still popular amongst pagans.This is getting to the point to his conduct in these festivals. He practiced mass animal sacrifice which even by the standards of his supporters like Ammianus was strange, as animal sacrifice had largely become defunct by the end of the 3rd century as a practice. Julian understood old public performances of his faith and the Neoplatonist ideas of god but he did not share these with the average pagan.
>>18695418i don't think the Romans really did animal sacrifice after the middle republic period. once they became Hellenized from contact with the Greek world a lot of the more primitive, barbaric cultural practices of the Italic peoples died out.
>>18695503Animal sacrifice was pretty normal and part of state ritual (that is to say, just about every ritual) into the 2nd century. The Romans were always more concerned with religious ritual than the Greeks and they never changed that. The Hellenistic rulers practiced animal sacrifice regularly, they didn’t practice human sacrifice as was done before Macedon rose to power but they did it. The decline of animal sacrifice was a universal thing across the Roman Empire in the 3rd century across the East and West
>>18695503The Romans used animal entrails for divination. Nobody else in the Western world aside from the Assyrians did that.
>>18695104The ways he feels about christians I feel about leftists. I guess roman era christians were really the marxists of their time.
most of the info about emperor julian was deliberately destroyed by christcucks. julian was probably a great emperor.
>>18695578>One of the best recorded emperors of Late AntiquityThis is literally the only emperor of the period that we have a collection of surviving letters from and a full narrative of his reign from a sympathetic source. The next emperor to be so well recorded by sources is Justinian.
>>18695588christcucks destroyed most of his religious writings.
>>18695529but again, that practice stopped being used after the middle republic period
>>18695626We have records of Caesar reading entrails as part of his role as priest. Cicero noted he didn’t really take it all that seriously but it was still done, the latest one I known of happened under Marcus Aurelius.
I think H.G. Wells explained it in Outline of History pretty well. The Roman Empire was a vast polyglot state and Christianity gave it a unifying force that the assorted regional cults and gods couldn't.
>>18695418>Sol Invictus was not a particularly significant god during Julian's reignHelios is Sol Invictus (who was referred to by Greek speakers as Helios Aniketos) and in his hymn to king Helios, Julian explicitly states that Zeus, Helios, and Serapis are manifestations of the same supreme god.
>>18695655since the Hellenistic era educated men had gradually been coming to believe there was one universal god and the various regional deities were just different aspects of him
>>18695665And this is not monotheism as the Ancient Egyptians already held the stance that every god was a manifestation of Amun-Ra, but I don’t see anyone arguing that the Ancient Egyptians were monotheist >>18694250In fact, given how much Greek philosophy was influenced by the Egyptian religion, the belief of all gods being manifestations of the supreme god was most certainly derived from the Egyptian belief of every god being a manifestation of Amun-Ra
>>18695578Nigga this is called "head canon"
Its funny seeing people defend Julian The Cringey when even his pagan contemporaries thought he was a joke lol
>>18695704That's not really correct, he had a late neoplatonist understanding of the religion, which identified Helios as a manfestation of the supreme God. Neoplantonism was very popular among intellectual circles and the cult of Helios had already been heavily promoted already. He wasn't some distant academic, though, he was very keen on the public festivals which were still popular among pagans.Also the idea that he tried to invent a new unified neo-pagan church is misleading, what he did was restore the official imperial cult and patronised the priesthood, a system which had existed since the republic. His big difference with previous pagan emperors was his promotion of charity, which was to compete with Christian care for the poor.
>>18695418>Neoplatonism was not standard at all. It was a subset of philosophy followed solely by elites who had an interest in that particular philosophy. It did not represent the views of anymore than a small group of elites.If Neoplatonism wasn’t widespread, the vast majority of philosophers wouldn’t have been Neoplatonists nor would academies have promoted it, yet they did
>>18695648Except for the centuries of pax Romana and unity before the christcuck period of course
>>18697375>Except for the centuries of pax Romana and unityAll two of them? Shit started hitting the fan in the 3rd century.
>>18697397And it got worse under christcuck control so your asinine point about Christianity being a unifying force is the Kool-aid you distribute amongst yourselves
>>18697397The Roman state like all pre-modern ones depended on plunder and conquest to sustain its economy. Once they ran out of stuff to conquer it was all downhill from there.
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>>18695104VVVGGHHHH... I lament his early passing every day. The world would be such a better place had he lived longer.
>>18695834Is picrel a good intro?
>>18695271>something that had gone out of fashion centuries earlierSource?
>>18695104He was a bit of a spas, yes, but that just makes me like this great hero even more >>18695170My wives
>>18695221He wanted to add YHWH as one of the gods in the Roman pantheon iirc.
>>18700549No he absolutely did not. Read any of his fucking writings.
>>18695254>>18695257Just introduce atheism lol.
>>18697416They run out of soldiers not countries to conquer.
