France owes him a tremendous debt
>>18699458>not joining the axis when he had the chanceFucking loser frog glad his and Churchill legacies are ruined
De Gaulle did a shit ton of wrong but the WORLD owes him a tremendous debtDid you see the TWO movies that were dedicated to him this year? It's very worth going to the cinema
>>18699461But his legacy isn't ruined, it's enhanced. People didn't listen to De Gaulle until it was too late, so his legacy is that of a guy who was right all along-while Churchill (having got his way) is now under more criticism.
>>18699463>De Gaulle did a shit ton of wrong How many were actual blunders rather than just moves made in a shitty situation?I've heard it was basically:>pre WW2 He was right, if he had been heeded the Battle of France may have gone differently (or at least, not been so catastrophic.)>WW2Did his best but was a bit of a retard.>post WW2Worked hard to prevent France getting pussified like Germany and other European powers, opposed American global domination but wasn't really capable of stopping it.
>>18699467>How many were actual blunders rather than just moves made in a shitty situation?Mostly referring to his presidency which was boomer maxxing when the actual boomers were 18 years oldDe Gaulle was extremely conservative but that's not a bad quality for war and considering the Monarchists and the Fascists were all cucks to the germans he picked the correct option, the Republic
>>18699464>pulling out of NATOPig headed frog idiot
How about when he poured fuel onto the bonfire of Quebecois nationalism?
>>18699475He didnt pull out of NATO though, that's a myth propagated by french politicians
>>18699475France hate is so astroturfed lol. I’ve never met anyone who hated French people, only Americans do because of their inferiority complex
>>18699482that was based
>>18699458>France owes him a tremendous debtYeah, for making it possible to import millions of Browns.
>>18699501All anglophones hate the french till they meet a french person who can speak english, it's language based prejudice
>>18699515That was America, you stupid fucker
>>18699517>the Franco-British rivalry is “hatred”Don’t talk about things you don’t understand, Americanski.
>>18699524I'm french you stupid retardAnd you're not my friend, BRO
>>18699519Turkturd ruin everything
>>18699519...und so kam es, dass der Döner Kebab in Berlin geboren ward.
>>18699467>pre WW2>He was right, if he had been heeded the Battle of France may have gone differently (or at least, not been so catastrophic.)De Gaulle's proposal was to create armoured divisions made up from 600 tanks(he preferred notoriously unreliable D2's) and supported by a single motorised battalion. Also he published his book against the advice of other French officers, who didn't mind theorising but releasing a book about how military should be the centrepiece of the society for notoriously anti-militaristic 3rd Republic political class was questionable and if there even was a thought of giving in to the military and letting them increase the number of professionals they were allowed to field, well ot wss gone by then.
>>18699568>De Gaulle's proposal was to create armoured divisions made up from 600 tanks(he preferred notoriously unreliable D2's) and supported by a single motorised battalion.What's wrong with this?
>>18699577Extremely impractical.The Germans started the war had about 320 tanks and 3 infantry battalions in their armoured divisionsIn 1940 it was from 220-250 and 3-5 respectively.In 1941 it went down to 150-200 and 5.It wasn't the case of omg we don't have enough tanks, it was the case of "unit with that many tanks and so little infantry isn't operating efficiently". De Gaulle is only beaten in this tank overdose by Fuller, who thought tank units should've been 100% tank and tankette(Fuller thought infantry is going the way of dodo).About the only thing de Gaulle got right when it came to armoured operations was that an armoured unit can function independently and it should be prepared to do so.
>>18699519De Gaulle fought on the side of the allies knowing that this was going to happen.
>>18699568>>18699577>>18699588was there anyone in France who could have turned things around in time for Germany invading? I get the feeling we have to go back to basically the immediate aftermath of WW1 to radically change French military doctrine to avoid them getting fucked.
>>18699467Your second point regarding his ww2 performance calls into question his ability if he was there at the forefront, but ultimately we can never know how he would perform under more favorable conditions. As for resisting american hegemony, a little late for that, if that was his concern he should've had the foresight to be more willing to sit it out and appease the axis, gaining territory and resources to counteract the obvious coming hegemony of either us or russia was a large motivation behind the nazis spergout. Of course, succumbing to one hegemony to resist another seems futile, but France surely had to have something to bargain with; just thinking of it now, Hitler was desperate to appease the brits prior to and during the war with the intent of making-use-of/preserving the british empire, more or less supplying soldiers and manufacturing in exchange for naval access/resources abroad, hoping to keep the benefit of Europes industrial efforts contained in Europe Proper. France was the other great colonial power remaining, since spain had lost jurisdiction over it's former colonies. So maybe, since the brits had no intent of resisting US ascent, France could've stepped in and offered what the brits wouldn't and through such estabilsh a French-German hegemony over Europe.
>>18699943The issue is that on the aftermath of WW1 french doctrine is undeniably the best in the world so why change that
>Anne de Gaulle was the youngest daughter of General Charles de Gaulle. She was born in Trier, Germany, where her father was stationed with the Army of Occupation in the Rhineland. She was born with Down Syndrome and in a time where disabled children were sent to institutions, she lived with her family until her death. In de Gaulle’s words, “God has given her to us. We must take responsibility for her, wherever she is and whatever she will be.”>There was one sacred rule in the de Gaulle household: Anne was never to be made to feel different or less than anyone else. Charles de Gaulle was noted for his reserve and even with family members he was usually not very demonstrative. Not so with his daughter Anne, who received a warmth that he had seemed to be storing for his entire life just for her. He would entertain her with songs, dances, and pantomimes, he would often act as a child himself to bring her joy. One Colombey resident recalled how he used to walk with her hand-in-hand around the property, caressing her and talking quietly about the things she understood. She was, he said simply, “My joy. She helped me overcome the failures in all men, and to look beyond them.”>In 1948, Anne succumbed to pneumonia, a month after her 20th birthday and died in her father's arms. Upon her death, weeping, her father said: "Now, she's like the others.">On 22 August 1962, Charles de Gaulle was the victim of an attempted assassination at Petit-Clamart. He later said that the potentially fatal bullet had been stopped by the frame of the photograph of Anne that he always carried with him, placed this particular day on the rear shelf of his car. When he died in 1970, he was buried in the cemetery of Colombey beside his beloved daughter.>She could only utter one word clearly and confidently in her entire life: ‘Papa’
>>18699943Politicians could've crushed the unions, increased professional army personnel limit and draft period in 1933. Other than that nothing.The French doctrine operates with the assumption that they have half the population of Germany and their military isn't nearly as well trained and cannot come close. People often babble about things like no radios in tanks - alright that's cool. Who's going to operate and service these radios? A guy who's drafted for a year, does basic for 3 months, then 3 months of specialist training and 6 months of actual service? A professional that the government somehow allows the employment of? Back then radios were a relatively new tech and simply speaking needed additional training and skills to troubleshoot them. The extreme limitations on manpower and degree of training allowed during the peacetime made the entire military organise itself with these shortages in mind.People will not get the unions idea so I'll explain that as well - a example or that would be the development production and deployment of MS 405/406 fighter. The union politics made it so the plane had to be made with copious amounts of individual parts(like 60% more than bf109) with techniques straight from the previous decades and any talk about automation and simplification was met with strikes. This is why 1938 was spent on reorganising the aircraft industry, under that guise the biggest union retards could've been fired, but it should've happened much earlier.
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