Why do critics of Islam ignore the fact that the Quran literally plagiarizes from several segments of the fucking Talmud and apocryphal Christian literature like the Infancy Gospel of Thomas? Muhammed was a fucking idiot who apparently couldn’t fucking distinguish the Talmud from the Torah and he also thought that the central text of Christianity was a singular gospel from Jesus himself. Muslims of course cope with the lack of evidence for this singular Gospel by claiming the original Gospel was lost even though there’s no evidence this mystery text ever existed. There are no mentions or quotations of it in any text nor have any manuscripts have been found, which blatantly contradicts the Quran’s claim that it was still available and widely known to Christians in the 7th century.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_in_IslamMuhammed simply had a horrendous understanding of how Jews and Christians actually view their religious texts and this phenomenon continues today hence why so many Muslim apologists have unironically claimed “Christian scriptures are in Greek rather than the Aramaic Jesus spoke, therefore it’s corrupted and unreliable”.
>>18701086To be fair, all of the books of the New Testament were written decades after the purported crucifixion by second-third hand sources.
I mean Muslims are fucking stupid. Like you genuinely have to be mentally retarded to believe in Islam. It's why I can't take anything they say seriously. Their entire religion needs to be completely dismissed offhand, it's so fucking laughable.
>god can plagiarize himselfI don't really see the issue from a Muslim perspective of Islam copying stories from other religious literature based around the worship of the same god. Nor should it being non-canonical matter to Muslims, they already think Christianity got it wrong.copying stories from secular literature like the Alexander Romance is a lot more damning desu
>>18701086To be fair to the muslims (despite me not liking them) I think a lot of criticisms that you can do to islam, you can also do to christianity. Like the old testament copying mesopotamian and ugaritic myths and the new testament copying greco-roman myths or the author of Acts copying Josephus.
>>18701228Yeah but Muslims often apply double standards when it comes to Christianity. When Christians criticize Islam, they did it on its own terms. When Muslims criticize Christianity, they do it with the assumption that Islam is true and any criticism of Christianity doesn't apply to Islam in the same way even when it does.
>>18701086Mainly because America hasn’t had Muslims yet. Watch westerns, the prevailing truth is that we don’t see, hear, or have to be around a Muslim for 100% of our lives. Internet and iPhones and mass democrat immigration open borders is being pushed to try and change this.We have to deal with Roman Catholic Mexicans mostly instead, and the the reason they didn’t give us the kjv bible is because no , we didn’t want the Latin bible. There were Christians who thought maybe they wanted the Latin bible, but they didn’t know they didn’t because they didn’t know about the kjv bible which we didn’t get from them. The really stupid thing is to assert that they came up with the Latin Bible as if they own it and can kill people for wanting it anyway like they did to John Wycliffe. By the way they seem to always kill someone named John. Like John Husk. John the Baptist, John the apostle. The baptists since the beginning with apostolic succession. Anyway for the most part I agree with you being smart about it, but Muslims don’t care and their prevailing thing is that the UK and US are letting them in when they should be banned as a violent religion.The Old Testament was contained in Israel only. It didn’t have global takeover scriptures like fight and kill the infidels wherever they can be found. Jews was for Israel and the law was for the Jews and even then the law was for Man and God to protect them mainly for the times they lived in. You can’t apply the garden of Eden laws to Jews in Israel in the Bronze Age and you can’t apply their laws in the wilderness tent dwelling in the promised land and you can’t apply the same laws of living in Egypt to them in Israel. That is why it is called dispensations. They started saying dispensationalism represents something demonic because they want to attack doctrinal teachings like this. You can still translate what having a shovel on your sword means to living in a house in the new testament modern day US
To going oh, you can own a firearm in the US because of what the flag represents, you can’t apply own a toilet and toilet paper instead of having to place a shovel on your sword like Moses law gave in the wilderness. As for do I agree that Mohammed was really that dumb and couldn’t figure this out? Yes. Absolutely one hundred percent a beast of a donkey of a man like the Bible says that Arab would be through Ishmael.
>>18701228The Old Testament doesn’t copy them, it copied Noah’s ark. To each their own, you haven’t proved it came from Gilgamesh, quite the opposite, Moses’ story and account goes to the creation of man and beyond, Gilgamesh isn’t an attempt to explain the world and be a living Word that still pertains today. It was an epic story that concluded in a very finite set of fantasy that didn’t attempt to tell you it is the true word of God. While God only went to the Jews, the New Testament went to the rest of the world through sharing of the gospel.Muslims by contrast teach that the Old Testament applies worldwide not just to the Jews showing their apparently lack of understanding of the Old Testament was to the Jews because they think the war in Israel right nowIS the entire world because their religion is fighting for this world when God gave just that spot to the Jews. It’s obviously the kings of the earth are the only people who care about their power to control Israel. Monarchies are the only people who harp about not having enough power to do whatever they want. Islam still has invested interest in having kings as does England which Americans don’t care about. We got our kjv bible from king James from the actual original scriptures and we don’t care about anything after that. We are our own king and high priest and don’t need anyone but thanking Jesus Christ for the free pardon into heaven.
If you a king then which king is the most powerul king? Right? Here is the real question. If you are really a king then go to Israel and tell everyone your powers and tell the world from Israel who is God. Simple as that. Prove to the world who is king. A pure hearted king will not boast and will wait for Jesus himself to be king and bring peace but would still be called to ask Israel for peace. While an evil king would do it to boast and put their own temple on the mount. Whose temple is there now? Ah yes, the Al aqsa, it’s a mosque and that belongs to Islam. There shouldn’t technically be anything there. Even Ishmael lost his kingdom when the Jews lost it. So we know who isa lying thief. :)Only if you can see that this isn’t about all religions being equal. If you think that then you are a lost cause. Only if you understand that God’s Word the kjv bible through Jesus Christ is the only way.
>>18701269>The Old Testament doesn’t copy them, it copied Noah’s ark. To each their own, you haven’t proved it came from Gilgamesh, quite the oppositeThe original sumerian Gilgamesh myths don't mention him with a flood myths. It's only the akkadian Epic of Gilgamesh that associates Gilgamesh with a flood myth, by having him visit his ancestor Uta-napashtim who talked about the flood myth, he was the Noah of that myth.The flood myth in the Epic of Gilgamesh is based on other sumerian flood myths.The akkadian Epic of Gilgamesh is more like a deconstruction of the sumerian Gilgamesh myths. The sumerian Gilgamesh myths are more like the greek Heracles myths and the Epic of Gilgamesh is mor elike the Odyssey.
>>18701235The same thing applies to Christians in regards to how they see Islam vs Christianity.All Abrahamic religions do this.>My god is the one true god, and the way you worship + your god is false>you don't see the light of god which can only come through MY prophetChristians have just as many double standards as Muslims.
>>18701293I don’t care about the specifics, he widely accused the Old Testament to be filled with Mesopotamia myths when it is the other way around. Moses officially goes beyond Gilgamesh because it says it does by the lineages. Gilgamesh has no reason to claim it is the Bible for mankind. In fact its author would have told you it isn’t.
>>18701300Your reasoning is terrible. Israel is their God, and it was given to them there for that spot. You’re the ones going in their land and telling them it belongs to Ishmael (Arabs), Muhammad is an Arab. Jesus Christ is an actual Jew, in fact he was the only son of God from Adam. When God disowned Jews that means it includes Arab ishmaelites worshiping Allah in Israel. In fact Roman Catholics needs to get out of Israel also because only Jesus Christ can sit in Israel on the throne as the only legitimate king.
>>18701303There is more that the bible steals from the mesopotamians besides the Noah story like the creation myth or Yahweh's fight against the Leviathan (though it's more similar to the ugaritic Baal fight against Lotan).
