They are literally incapable of inventing. They steal from Europeans then improve a little bit and call it a day.
This is just slop bro or you're from CIA psyoping incels to become more racist like 90% of this site
Why do HBDbros have such retarded opinions about Africans and Abbos? It definitely doesn't take a genius to see that Aboriginal Australia was unironically like that due to geography almost exclusively.
>>18715808then why didnt they just leave that god forsaken continent idiot. i get curiosity killed the cat but isnt that better than being immobile drooling retards
>>18715807Not slop compared to the rest of this board. we need to decompile the asian cognitive profile and put them on a tier list
>>18715791>Why do asians steal inventions?It's effective, isn't it? And Asians actually put their stolen inventions to use, as opposed to Westerners who let their R&D rot in favor of pouring endless resources into DEI initiatives
>>18715891>opposed to Westerners who let their R&D rot in favor of pouring endless resources into DEI initiativesIts funny how people will try to add more to it when this is 100% the case. literally a civilization destroyer.
>>18715791Asians have a refinement culture.That is, enhancers.They take ideas and enhance them a little, every person, every time, whatever.Making it cheaper is also an enhancement.I bought a chinese alarm clock for €3.Last time i bought one was about €20, many years ago.I have no part in this, just saying.My father called it "the rice dish technology". They do it for the day's meal.Thing is, refinement is always lagging behind. But creativity must speed up.Also, though there are imitations, many people value the real and original brand.
>>18715791Consider the following three scenes.There is a lawn mower mechanic. He can set the spark plug gap. Clean the air filter. Sharpen the blades. Change the oil. Tune the carb so the air to fuel fix is correct. He can fix the lawn mower but he doesn't understand how all the components come together to make the engine work. Next is the lawnmower designer. This guy understands how everything on a lawn mower works. Using that knowledge he is able to build a better more efficient mower. He adds an electric start. He reposition the air cleaner so it is less exposed to dust. He redesigns the engine to be more efficient. He even invents a new lawn mower that hovers off the ground rather than using wheels ( Not all his inventions are great ).Then there is the guy who questions the need to even have a lawn mower. He comes up with several alternative solutions. He genetically engineers a grass that will only grow so high. Or he invents a tiny solar powered drone that senses when a single grass blade is too high and snips it with a scissor like implement, repeating this all day every day. Or he questions why people have grass lawns in the first place and decides to replace it with wild flowers, shrubs, bushes and small trees, letting it grow naturally, with paths snaking in and around the garden.These are the three categories of scientists. Most belong in the first category, some in the second, and just a very few in the last category.The Chinese however have none in the last category. They can fix, they can improve, but they can never think outside the box. They can never conceptualize a new idea or a different approach. They can only work with what they already have ( or stolen ). Europeans exemplify divergent thinking, or creatively thinking outside of the box; the Chinese in contrast are a lot more conformist, not shaking the boat much.This is why China had such long periods of prosperity while all the globe shaking innovations happened in Europe.
>>18716608Even if the Chinese wanted to innovate they would have been slapped by their own nation’s bureaucrats. Europe was a ripe location for invention, since it your nation didn’t want to fund or entertain your ideas you could always just run to a rival neighbouring nation that would embrace your ideas. Fragmentation is why Europe was such a hotspot for scientific inquiry. China was way, way too unified for anyone to actually try anything new, and they also had this habit of just forgetting their own achievements; Pu Yi was denied glasses because “they were too western”, even though a previous Chinese emperor was known to have his own collection of eyewear, spectacles, etc. Proud to a fault. Ironically enough, China’s focus on ceramics over that of glass is often touted as one of the major reasons why science (chemistry and optics) in China stagnated so hard. They focused on artistry over science.
>>18716616since if*
>>18716486The West creates… The East polishes…
>>18716616China fucked it up by becoming a country utterly dominated by scholars who only liked poetry, calligraphy and various writings of sages like Confucius. And despised craftsmen and merchants putting them below farmers.
>>18716660They weren’t true scholars. True scholars value grit and ruthless discovery. The likes of Darwin embarking on a voyage across seas and coming back to tell tales of strange specimens, and to exclaim how much he despised barnacles.The era of discovery was because of white people wanting to break through into nature and take from it its secrets.
>>18716660>>18716660Sages of the East: “Do not meddle. Do not dabble. Society is all.”Sages of the West: “Lol do whatever you want lmao I don’t care.”
>>18716680Both east and west had both of these stances, the west just didn’t value conformity nearly as much as the east, and the east didn’t value breakthroughs as much as the west.
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>>18716660>And despised craftsmen and merchants putting them below farmershuh, so that's why don't control china
Swedes and Northern Germans, Englishmen and the Dutch are all just as ""creative"" and ""ingenious"", as subjective as those labels may be, as Southern Europeans.Nietzsche was a retarded orientalist whose sole aspiration was to see Prussia, the Kaiser, Bismarck, and the Lutheran Church destroyed and replaced by Southern European/Mongolian/Buddhist/Aryan barbarians, because that would totally own his disciplinarian Lutheran father, and then he would finally be able to have sex.
>>18716660>despised craftsmenwhy
>>18717341Cope Chang
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>>18716608Progress is incremental and Idea's people are actually, factually and in any practical sense, useless.The computer you're using wasn't built because somebody demonstrated a semiconductor but because a lot of people sat down and puzzled out and tested chip and computer architectures. On that topic, libraries and land fills have been created well before you got to sit down at your personal machine to shit post. What's more, the industrial revolution everybody's so proud of wasn't driven by scientists but by blacksmiths and tinkerers, many of whom had never enjoyed a higher education and relied on access to special interest journals and dicking around in their work shops to get to their results. Scientists of the period, in fact, strongly resisted the idea that their research activities should be measured against those practical results, and, in the Western World, institutes of technical education were eventually specifically created as a way of maintaining this class distinction.
>>18718032>What's more, the industrial revolution everybody's so proud of wasn't driven by scientists but by blacksmiths and tinkerers, many of whom had never enjoyed a higher educationYou had me until this part. That you don’t consider these people to be scientists is just sickening. That you consider higher education exclusive to academia is just offensive.
>>18718032>relied on access to special interest journals and dicking around in their work shops to get to their resultsThat’s called science. “Remember kids, the only difference between proper science and fucking around is writing it down!”. You may as well argue that Darwin wasn’t a scientist since he decided to get on a boat instead of isolating himself in some dusty corner in a library somewhere. He contributed to libraries BY NOT BEING IN A FUCKING LIBRARY.
>>18718101I know people despise craftsmen and shun them wherever they can, but they aren't scientists. The point of a scientist is finding out why things work, the point of an engineer or craftsman is getting things to work. The why isn't that relevant to them. This difference results in craftsmen generally having a deficit in their ability to structurally document and teach their specific skillset, which is something you certainly would've encountered had you ever spent any time around them.>>18718104>That’s called science.That's what the Chinese do, that's what the Japanese, the Taiwanese, the Germans did before them, which is apparently why they can never beat either part of the continent of America.Point being, the pioneers didn't participate in the scientific community as it would've understood itself and they belonged to a class the scientific community actually defended itself against.
>>18718137>The point of a scientist is finding out why things work Nope. That’s just one shade of a scientist. Other scientists just want to make shit work. One usually flows into the other. Now please shut the fuck up before you trip over your brain again. Science is as simple as cause-and-effect. It’s the most simple thing there is. Repetition. Reproducibility. The replication crisis that follows. Etc.
>>18718137>Point being, the pioneers didn't participate in the scientific communityPoint being, you’re a moronic person. You’re like those fucking faggots who have the absolute audacity to claim that Leonardo Da Vinci wasn’t a real scientist because he refused to share in his work and did random shit without any prior theory. You’re a butthurt lunatic who doesn’t even know what science is. Excellent science can be done even in utter isolation. Leonardo Da Vinci was centuries ahead of his contemporaries who collaborated with each other. Leo only collaborated with that one big name math guy. He was an artist of a scientist. He didn’t need to understand how something worked to make something beautiful or try new things. The entire point about discovering how things work is trying dumb and new shit beforehand. The alchemist in China allegedly, accidentally, discovered black powder in their efforts to discover the elixir for immortality. It wasn’t their original intent. Meanwhile, several centuries earlier, we have even more ancient detailed accounts of black powder. It took centuries for saltpetre+sulphur+charcoal to take off societally, even when sages hundreds of years earlier were aware of its existence.
>>18718137>This difference results in craftsmen generally having a deficit in their ability to structurally document and teach their specific skillsetThis is just wrong.
>>18718137Craftsmen were among the best at recording their trade. AI also says you’re retarded. You’re exceptionally retarded if AI is more right or correct than you. That architecture has advanced so thoroughly over millennia disproves your bullshit assumption.
>>18718237AI apparently forgot to tell you that, when the Euros finally got around to actually researching and documenting the remains of Roman architecture, they found that none of them seemed to have followed Vitruvs books. That was rather shocking to them back in the days.But that's old news and that's AI for ya.
>>18715791Who wrote this lol
>>18718223>>18718230You're hella mad. I'm talking specifically about the Industrial Revolution period and specifically about the divide between the engineers that made it work and period Academia. The point is that Europe enjoyed the same divide between people who put knowledge to use and Academics who strongly resisted the idea that they should be measured by the yard stick of tinkerers and craftsmen, including technical education being considered a lower type of schooling specifically made to fulfill the societal need for a stable source of industry Morlocks.It's bizarre for us to point at the Chinese and laugh like we never embraced their folly.
>>18718379>I'm talking specifically about the Industrial Revolution period and specifically about the divide between the engineers that made it work and period Academia. The differences are moronic, is their point. Saying an engineer isn’t a scientist is a flawed dichotomy. Even a chef is technically a scientist,
>>18718310>they found that none of them seemed to have followed Vitruvs booksThe implication is that they followed something else. If you think construction work happened in a vacuum, without any dissemination, you’re not a good thinker.
>>18718379>including technical education being considered a lower type of schooling specifically made to fulfill the societal need for a stable source of industry Morlocks.Isaac Newton would like to have a word with you.
>>18718379I think the problem is that you accused craftsmen of being poor recorders when this was in fact the opposite case for all of history. Craftsmen and guilds were very jealous hoarders of their secrets. I don’t know what would cause you to come up with such a random and wrong statement.
>>18718137>This difference results in craftsmen generally having a deficit in their ability to structurally document and teach their specific skillset, which is something you certainly would've encountered had you ever spent any time around them.The idea that historical craftsmen were illiterate or poor at recording information is a widespread myth that modern research has thoroughly debunked. In fact, historical craftsmen were highly sophisticated in how they recorded, preserved, and transmitted information, using methods that often surpassed simple written text in efficiency. Master masons and carpenters built large plaster "tracing floors" where they drew full-scale architectural blueprints. These functioned as active, editable working databases. Timber framers used a complex, universal numbering system of chiseled marks (often using Roman numerals or specialized symbols) to index every single joint in a massive building, ensuring it could be assembled like a puzzle. Stonemasons carved personal signatures into stones. This was a highly organized system used for quality control and to calculate wages. Many craftsmen did not rely on standard (Latin) books because written language was often too clumsy for 3D engineering and geometry. Instead, they used sophisticated visual systems: it was a hard thing to decipher if you weren’t of this same field or trade. By the early modern period (1400s–1700s), literacy among urban craftsmen was very high. However, because they wrote in their local spoken languages (vernacular) rather than the Latin favored by typical academics, their records were historically overlooked by early scholars. Metallurgists, glassmakers, and dyers kept highly detailed booklets of art (Kunstbüchlein) containing precise chemical recipes, measurements, and temperature guides, while crafting guilds maintained strict, meticulously written records of apprenticeships, masterpiece requirements, technical standards, and financial accounts.
>>18718137Master masons were so skilled they could do their shit with just a compass and a rope you huge retard. Ad Quadratum, Ad Triangulum.
>>18718379>It's bizarre for us to point at the Chinese and laugh like we never embraced their folly.Who the fuck said we never did? The Byzantine empire and the Tang/Ming dynasties both stagnated for the same reasons, one just happened before the other. They both tried too hard preserving the past. They isolated themselves within their own preconceived glories of some past golden era, forgetting that the rest of the world would be bound to catch up.
>>18718032>>18718137Many of the most transformative breakthroughs of the Industrial Revolution were directly dependent on cutting-edge scientific theory, not just trial and error in a workshop, and the textile, glass, and metallurgy industries could not have scaled without the development of industrial chemistry. Inventions like the Leblanc process for producing soda ash (essential for soap and glass) and the creation of synthetic dyes (like mauveine by William Henry Perkin, a student at the Royal College of Chemistry) required deep, formal academic training in chemistry. The second phase of the Industrial Revolution was entirely driven by scientists, like Michael Faraday’s laboratory discoveries regarding electromagnetism at the Royal Institution directly led to the electric motor and generator, which were later commercialized by university-educated figures like Lord Kelvin and Werner von Siemens.
>>18718471By his own output, Isaac Newton was a Alchemist who dabbed in mathematics.
>>18718535He also created various contraptions and devices and even stuck a needle in his eye to test how light worked. He wore disguises and went undercover in bars to rat out and execute counterfeiters.The idea that academics aren’t artificers, or don’t get their hands dirty, is ludicrous.
>>18718493The history of KunstbĂĽchlein, Hausvaterliteratur and technical/scientific newspapers for gentlemen and how they eventually split off into special interest publications again is a topic onto itself.In general, those are much more practical and aimed at a general audience rather than an expert one - they're instruction books for gentlemen interested in the industry and their use as general teaching material among craftsmen guilds active in the field would be news to me.
>>18718549I'm not talking about academics, I'm talking about the historic intent of technical schools, assuming that folks posting are at least passingly familiar with what was considered a proper education for a proper person who would go on to attend a university.Like this is supposed to be a history board.
>>18718568>>18718578Why are you backpedaling
>>18718608I'm not. I read a bunch of Hausväterliteratur and 17th/18th century technical and scientific publications, such as reviews of food adulteration methods. I do have an impression of the genre. I just don't have the impression that those were intended to be used as teaching materials for apprentices.
>>18718659Why are you backpedaling
>>18718578The Great Exhibition says hi, retard.
Ampex developed the first VCR in the late 60s but saw no market for it (or more likely were getting too fat off Cold War defense contracts) so the Japanese took the technology and ran with it.
>>18717949Samurai practiced Confucianism retardConfucianism demanded strict gender segregation to stop male strangers from fucking your wife and to live in patrilineal clans and records your genealogiesIn Japan, samurai monopolised Confucianism for themselves, living in paternal clans and doing gender segregation while forbidding Japanese commoner peasants from keeping their women segregated or recording their paternal ancestry Japanese peasants could not bare arms or fight back against a samurai or insult a samurai. A samurai could fuck a Japanese peasant wifeIn China, every Chinese whether noble or commoners practiced Confucinism, live in paternal clans, recorded their paternal genealogies ans gender segregatedChinese commoners did not let their wives bathe with male strangers unlike Japanese commoners who let their wives bathe with male strangers and get fucked by samuraiJapanese daimyo and samurai literally sold Japanese peasant girls into prostitution to Han Chinese men.Hideyoshi gave Japanese girls to Han Chinese merchantsJapanese Daimyo traded Japanese peasant girls to Portuguese men for saltpetre.Japanese samurai allowsd Han Chinese men like Meng Erquan to become samurai and fuck Japanese women, Meng was grandfather of one of the 47 roninMeanwhile Japanese peasants would would killed by samurai for disrespecting them.It was legal for samurai to fuck/rape Japanese peasant women and the cuck Japanese peasant man couldn't do anything or he would be killed.Meanwhile Japanese peasants could not fuck samurai wives.Kabukimono Ronin samurai would openly terrorise and slaughter Japanese oeasants for entertainmemt.Japan lost every war to China before the 19th century Meiji restoration where Japan had Britain build the Meiji fleet for them in exchange for Japanese teenage girl karayuki-san prostitutes who serviced Chinese coolies and western soldiersJapan industrialised off prostitution money from 13 year old Japanese teenage girls
>>18717949>>18717884>>18718815In China, nobles were not allowed to rape free commoner womenIn Japan, samurai could rape random Japaneae peasant wives In China, peasants were armed with swords, spears, muskets, bowsIn Japan, samurai monopolised weapons and terrorised Japanese peasantsConfucianism glorifies gender segregation and secluding women inside the house and archeryChinese peasants practices gender segregation and lived in huge paternal clans like genealogies and were armed unlike Japanese peasants who were basically slaves of samurai and not allowed to guard their women or know their own paternal lineage
>>18716660>who only liked poetry, calligraphy and various writings of sages like Confucius. And despised craftsmen and merchants putting them below farmers.Samurai practiced Confucianism and followed this hierarchy retard.Samurai also insulted merchants and craftsmenSamurai practiced calligraphy and read Confucian texts>>18717949>>18718815>>18718820
>>18718578Victorian academics were significantly more hands-on than modern counterparts, primarily due to the boundaries between scientific disciplines not yet hardening, and institutional research safety standards did not exist. Many 19th-century scholars were polymaths who funded, built, and executed their own experiments, often at great personal physical risk to themselves, and others. Modern academics are highly, HIGHLY specialized and rely on institutional labs, tech staff, and overly strict safety protocols/measures, while Victorian academics frequently acted as their own field agents, engineers, and test subjects. The modern world is less holistic, less worldly, and more fragmented, despite the sheer volume of information at our disposal.
>>18718829The very act of having a seperate warrrior class implies that the majority of your people are not warriors but are subhuman chattel for the warriors. samurai monopolised Confucianism for themselves and refused to let their chattel (Japanese peasants) practice Confucianism and segregate their wives from strangers or record their paternal genealogies or even have surnames.
>>18718833In China, both nobles and commoners practiced Confucianism and recorded paternal genealogies and had surnames and gender segregated and carried weapons.In Japan, a Japaneae peasant could not carry a sword in front of a samurai or defend himself from a samurai A Japanese peasant had to let the samurai fuck his wife and kill him if the samurai felt he was insulted by him
>>18715791China is the country that historically invented gunpowder I think
>>18718815>Samurai practiced Confucianism retardnobody cares about bishido faggot
>>18718837>In Japan, a Japaneae peasant could not carry a sword in front of a samurai or defend himself from a samurai >A Japanese peasant had to let the samurai fuck his wife and kill him if the samurai felt he was insulted by himThe Japanese are cucksThey enjoyed it
>>18718815The Samurai with the oldest recorded male lineage was Takebayashi Takashige and it was Han Chinese not Japanese. One of the Chinese philosopher Mencius's descendants became part of the 47 ronin, Takebayashi Takashige. A Chinese soldier Meng Erkuan from the Meng family was captured in Korea in the Imjin war and taken to Japan becoming a doctor for the Asano clan. Meng Erkuan changed his name to Watanabe Kotonori and married a Yamato Japanese woman. His grandson was the samurai Takebayashi Takashige who joined the 47 ronin and sepukkued himself with the other ronin. Mencius's main line of descendants were part of the Chinese nobility and had a hereditary title and pensions and still live in China like the Confucius, Zengzi and Yan Hui families.Tagawa Shichizaemon was an ashigaru and his father was a Han Chinese, Zheng Zhilong and his mother from an unknown Yamato Japanese family called Tagawa who were said to be Samurai in some sources but not much is known about them. Ashigaru were foot soldiers.
>>18718938Meng Erguan
