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What if Germany was liberal?
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Russia would have invaded. Czar Nicholas I was a supporter of absolute monarchs.
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They would be like modern post - Cold War Germany so turbo gay
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>>18715959
The German Liberals shot themselves in the foot when they allied themselves with Bismarck only to be discarded when they were no longer useful. They should have realised the twin dangers of the Junkers and Socialism, and allied themselves with German Catholics and Poles against them. William Pitt the Younger knew this.
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Every German liberal needs his English rose gf
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>>18715959
But it was. It was called Weimar Republic.
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>>18715972
And he would get his ass properly wrecked and forced to liberalize too. It would probably a better timeline since this means there won't be a Soviet Union.
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Liberalism is degenerate and evil.
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>>18716007
But the Weimar Republic was founded by socialists.
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>>18715959
Germany wouldn't be so eager to impress and intimidate their neighbors leading to a cooling down in tensions, but would a revanchist France see that as a sign of weakness?
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>>18715959
Heaven on earth.
>>18716150
He was a classical liberal, not a wokecommie liberal.
>>18716142
It is tragic how much of traditional russia, but germany as well, was destroyed during the 20th century. Of course much was lost in the west as well, on their own volition, but we can still see it linger on here and there. Russia on the other hand has destroyed their own soul, and germany doesn't have much left either.
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>>18716161
France was not that revanchist in the wake of ww1.
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>>18716167
huh..
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>>18716166
All forms of liberalism are degenerate and evil.
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>>18716173
France was distracted by scandals with Jews and the presidents wife murdering editors.
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>>18716176
Watch out, we got a monarchist or a fascist here. Or maybe in fact a commie, they're not big on freedom either.
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>>18715959
>>18715972
They'd still get unified under Prussia, with Russian assistance. Ain't no way Russia and Austria are going to allow a liberal, unified Germany.
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>>18715959
What if 1848 wasn't such a shit show and Germany unified under the Frankfurt parliament and not under the Prussian army? Europe might not have blown itself to bits in the 20th century, or it might have done anyway who knows.
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>>18716167
>>18716161
France and Germany be great geopolitical allies after Fashoda crisis and later Boer War
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>>18715977
>allied themselves with German Catholics and Poles
why not just crown the pointy hatted boyfucker in rome the new emperor of germany next
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>>18715959
What if Austria won the Austro Prussian War?
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>>18715959
Hitler killed whites instead of non whites since he was a self hater
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>>18716862
The status quo resulted, or Austria-Hungary (just Austria) consolidated power with southern Confederate states (Bavarians, Württembergers, Badenese) as it retook Venetia and Lombardy. Making Latin the official language.
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These kind of fantasies never make any sense. Early 20th century the cities were filling up with poor desperate illiterate former-peasant factory workers with whom the Kaiser and the Lutheran Church and the aristocracy were totally out of touch. These people were going to adopt either socialism or fascism as their new religion, there was no "moderate" wholesome third path.
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>>18716458
Freedom can go to hell, I only want Christ
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>>18717481
In 1877 the liberal party held 155 of the 397 seats in the Reichstag.
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>>18717505
He's dead bro, what do you want from him?
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>>18717499
ok, what does that have to do with what I said about the changes in social dynamics that occurred in the early 20th century to make those still clinging to the era of Bismarck hopelessly out of touch?

Also, I'd just like to point out that you picking the last year of the Kulturkampf, literally just before Bismarck broke with the Liberal party and permanently weakend them, is hilarious.

It's like saying look the American Southern Confederate slaveholders were really strong in 1860!! Maybe they could have kept things going!
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>>18717508
>>18717506
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>>18717507
Jesus lives
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>>18717508
It didn't have to end like that, Bismarck jewed them with the colonial issue and Friedrich cucked out and stopped speaking in support of them despite believing in their cause. Even so they still had a basis for forming a government. They were just short of a majority at the time of Willy the first's death and Friedrich could've easily governed with them, had he lived.
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>>18715959
Poles will speak German instead bucked "rekt" broken
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>>18716158
it is called the weimar republic because the socialists controlled berlin and the libshits had to resort to forming their government in some irrelevant shithole
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>>18716458
>monarchist or a fascist
>commie or fagnarchist
Meanwhile Francoist and Syndicalist
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>>18718650
so all of them and also a sp*niard
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>>18717508
>American Southern Confederate slaveholders
Dixies fighting for freedom from Lincoln tyrannical rule.
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>>18715959
The best Kaiser that Germany almost had.



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