How do atheists justify that incest is bad ?
>>18717708In Christianity, the entire population of Earth is based on incest :)
>>18717710And God later forbade it under the mosaic law. Next
>>18717708Average Nintendo/Lame Cube fans grow up and draw pervert incestslop or wind up like Chris Chan. Meanwhile PS2 chads moved on to lifting weights, turning cars, closing real estate deals, and fucking women. Sad, many such cases.
>>18717708Why incest in particular? An atheist who's a moral anti-realist will dispute that anything is "bad" in the way you use the term while a noncognitivist will straight up say that the way you use the word is incoherent.
>>18717708I for one would argue that incest (much like hebephilia, pederasty, and racism) is actually good. The onus is on religious people to justify their nigger-loving, life-denying morals
>>18717713>>18717714Not an answer.
>>18717712>God changes his mindWhen?
>>18717708Plot twist: childhood girlfriend actually a boy
>>18717717When what
>>18717713Don't you meant Snoy cuck by woman
>>18717738PSX and PS2 were based, Snoy then moved their headquarters to California and got fucking gay
>>18717708Doesn't feel right.
>>18717713trvkem
>>18717716That's right, I'm pointing out that it's a loaded question.
>>18717708Atheists believe christians cannot actually be worshipping a god. Yet they see christians constantly professing to having a moral code.So obviously, according to an atheist point of view, morality without god is perfectly possible. They have seen it done by the very people who claim it an impossibility.I have therefore destroyed this argument forever. Never post it again. I post this as an amoral heathen. Hail Wotan.
>>18717747So why do atheists support the lgbt ?>>18717757I rest my case
>>18717819>I rest my caseWhat case is that?
>>18717821Why do atheists always play dumb ?
>>18717824You never stated what your case was. Why do Christians always play coy?
>>18717825You cannot justify anything
>>18717827Literally anything? Or by "anything" you just mean "any objective moral claim"?
>>18717708>How do atheists justify that incest is bad ?because retarded kids are a detriment to everyone
>>18717708Habsburgs and Muslims
>>18717708It's not bad unless kids come out of it.
>>187177081. We have a natural aversion to incest. It's gross.2. This aversion is not cultural. Mothers/sisters think their sons/brother smell worse than they actually are. There definitely seems to be a way, where Humans select their mate based on smell and nature is trying to prevent incest through these soft discouragements.3. It creates abominations.4. It inherently reduces fitness in the Darwinian sense.5. Cousin Marriage isn't nearly as bad, but it will have similar disastrous genetic consequences on a population, if practiced for a long enough time on a large scale. And since policy is concerned with the group, not the individual, this is an especially strong argument against Incest.6. There is a correlation between really ugly & retarded people and incest. A lot of incest scandals don't just involve someone like Andy and Leyley, but people with visible retardation.There. 6 arguments against Incest from an Atheist POV.
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>>18717848>1, >2So why does your kind support lgbt ?>3, 4, 5, 6So you're okay with it as long as they don’t have children ?
>>18717845>>18717842So you're okay with it as long as they don’t have children ?
>>18717870genuinely curious, but how can you tell it's ChatGPT?
>>18717871>>18717872Nta but the point of societal norms like that is lots of people are complete retards and won't act responsibly unless potentially dangerous acts are tabooized.
>>18717871>So why does your kind support lgbt?We don't. It's just that misleading, simplistic questions, which can only be answered with a yes or no, are not suitable to gauge social attitudes. The overwhelming majority of people are okay with gay people having some place somewhere, where they can do their thing. Like their private homes or a gay club. This was even true, when homosexuality was technically illegal. But most people would not be okay with gay people having sex in public, which already would make them anti-LGBT in a technical sense, because that would mean they want to impede the rights on gay, especially on pride parades, where they do things in public, which otherwise would never be tolerated.So yeah. It's actually all just fake and gay. Most people don't support the rights gay people right now have. They are just tricked into that position.>So you're okay with it as long as they don’t have children ?No, because any kind of sexual and romantic relationship has the possibility of creating children. That can never be avoided. It's also a legal principle. No man can sue his wife, girlfriend or even a ONS for getting pregnant, despite contraception and keeping it.
>>18717710In factual reality actually.
>>18717886>We don'tLolI rest my case.
>>18717881Randomly capitalized words in a sentence prove it.>Cousin Marriage isn't nearly as bad, but it will have similar disastrous genetic consequences on a population, if practiced for a long enough time on a large scale. And since policy is concerned with the group, not the individual, this is an especially strong argument against Incest.
>>18717894Ask any Atheist, if they are okay with gay people having sex in public and in front of children. If they say no, they are technically against pride parades and are anti-LGBT. People are just not aware that this is an opinion they have.
>>18717897>Ask any Christian, if they are okay with kidnapping people, torturing them until they convert and then execute them to send them to heaven. If they say no, they are technically against spreading Christianity and are anti-Christian. People are just not aware that this is an opinion they have.
>>18717895that doesn't prove he used it though. not all of us are native English speakers
>>18717872If it's consensual, and they love each other? Sure. But that isn't particularly atheists' position. Nobody really cares about it, except totalitarian shitholes like Africa, Arabs, or Anglos.
>>18717872>So you're okay with it as long as they don’t have children?Beyond the problem that it can only produce retarded kids that become everyone's problem, it also means you won't be doing your duty to your people which requires having kids to take on the future challenges that your people will have to face.If you have no love for and loyalty to your people then you should probably just kill yourself.
>>18717708It's not morally wrong, but widespread incest would lead to a generation plagued by birth defects and chronic health problems. Therefore it's undesirable on a social level. But if we could find a way to prevent birth defects then I'd have no problem at all with incest between consenting adults.
>>18717713/thread
>>18717894Why does your kind support pedo child molesting pastors
>>18717708Its not bad its just that my sister isn't attractive though the other day I got to sleep with a friend and her sister
>>18717921Why are you scared to give an actual answer ?>>18717939So you're okay with it as long as they don’t have children ?
>>18717708It isn't bad. Incest is the most based taboo and I pitty anyone who hasn't experienced fooling around with their sister. >>18717848>4. It inherently reduces fitness in the Darwinian sense. This is largely a misconception. Incest can be favored by natural selection.
>>18717897Do you think people have sex during pride parades, like as part of the parade? And do you think this is an integral part of pride parades, like it is impossible to have one without this?>>18718411Both of the people you are responding to answered your question pretty concisely.
>>18717939>widespread incest would lead to a generation plagued by birth defects and chronic health problemsThis is even more true of healthcare by the way. Allowing people who would have died young without medical intervention to reproduce will have devastating long term effects on our genetic health.
>>18717708Atheism is not a moral framework, it is a theological position that lacks belief in a deity. The answer you get depends on the specific moral philosophies of the atheist, and the vast majority of moral frameworks do not rely on the existence of a deity. Buddhism is an atheistic religion, for instance. You can also look into philosophies like utilitarianism, hedonism, humanism, consequentialism, and so forth. You may as well be asking how do electricians justify that incest is bad.
>>18718411>So you're okay with it as long as they don’t have children ?Yes, so long as everyone is of age and consenting.
>>18717712>And God later forba-ACK!Numbers 23:19: "God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind."1 Samuel 15:29: "He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a human being, that he should change his mind."Malachi 3:6: "For I the LORD do not change."Enjoy Hell
>>18717712Oh yeah that's why incest produces retard babies. Because God.
>>18717848>This aversion is not cultural. Mothers/sisters think their sons/brother smell worse than they actually are. There definitely seems to be a way, where Humans select their mate based on smell and nature is trying to prevent incest through these soft discouragements.This isn't supported by evidence, instead the aversion is mostly social in nature. Close relatives not raised together are more likely to find eachother attractive when reunited. This is because genetic relatedness is a key factor in natural selection. The subconscious social aversion is a way to minimize the amount of inbreeding despite that.
>>18717708There's nothing intrinsically wrong with incest.You should not pick your worldview based on how well it rationalizes opposing things that you find disgusting.
