Unironically it would have been better if the crisis of the 3rd century destroyed the Roman Empire.
>>18719559jews and Poles who love jews on this board are so insufferable, Jesus. This is the most pro zionist board ever, no, your fetish of greater israel is not a good thing. The damage the israelites have caused to the entire planet is incalculable
>>18719563The fuck are you talking about man the Palmyran Empire was run by Romanized Syrians.
>>18719563Your obsession with Jews is showing /pol/tranny
>>18719563That's the Palmyrene Empire you retardhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmyrene_Empire
Logically you may be right even though emotionally I don't agree.A palmyrene empire would have probably integrated arabs more and likely prevented the entire islamic timeline. A huge factor the roman middle east fell is because the locals didn't want to fight for the empire
>FVCK Z*NOBIA>FVCK T*TRICVS>FVCK COIN SHAVERS>AVE SOL INVICTVS>AETERNA VICTRIXsimple as
>>18719596Cope. Zenobia was a protozionist>sic semper ivdeis
>>18719559>Mithraist Gallic Empire >Hellenic or Sol Invictus Roman Empire>Christian Palmyrian/Syrian EmpireKino alt history scenario DESU
>>18719559Why would have it destroyed Rome? Both the Gallic and Palmyrene empires claimed to be the legitimate rulers of the Roman Empire. While Zenobia gets the coverage, it was her sons who were declared Roman Emperors, their armies were largely Roman legions and officers with leadership behind focused in the hands of the Palmyrenes. Gaul was completely Roman ruled and lead, they did not want to exist as a seperate state and actively believed in only a single state. Aurelian did not so much ‘conquer’ them as he effectively negotiated their settlement and acceptance of him as the legitimate emperor. In return everybody got a pardon and continued to have the positions they once had. Even in the worst case scenario, the Roman state that ruled Italy would still be the dominant state of all three
>>18719596Jew
>>18719671The Gallic Empire was the weirdest and most unstable of the three and they probably saw it even back in the day. It was just a "fuck Gallienus" movement that had no reason to exist after the same Gallienus was assassinated most likely by orders of Senatorial cabals.
>>18719672>>18719726Most countries and nations were born a temporary breakout states that for whatever reasons sticked out. See France that started as a breakout titular part of the Karling Empire that unlike Germany Lotharingia and Italy was never either reconquered nor they managed to annex the other breakout kingdoms
>>18719638>that concept artCrazy how there hasn't been a proper historical total war game in about 15 years now
>>18719559it did though anon
>>18719559Didn't zenobia get raped by giraffes or something
>>18720095Mena baddie gets raped by giraffes
>>18720112>>18720095Hot
>>18720054I still play the old ones. New games are gay af
>>18719805True, but there wasn't much "substance" in the Northwest to form a proper breakaway kingdom. And they didn't even want to break away to begin with. That's why Aurelian took his time (although he didn't know how little time he had left) and left them for last. By comparison, Zenobia's move was a mortal threat, not just because the East was much richer but also due to Persian proximity
>>18719598>>18719570>run by woman>immediately collapsedHoly cringe
>>18720458>>18720054This /v/ or /vst/? Both?
>>18720112>>18720095You obsess with Resident Evil 6 logo
>>18720470Fine fine, you don't have to be a Karen about it. Who's your favorite underrated 3rd century emperor? Mine is Gallienus the tragic hero
>>18720095No way. Aurelian was too moral for such a depraved punishment. He was known as strict but never as cruel despite the (senatorial) propaganda written by people with a vested interest in aggrandizing Gothicus (who was great, don't get me wrong) and depicting his successor and the savior of Rome as some bloodthirsty psychopath who almost "had it coming" despite the fact that it was mainly thanks to Aurelian these pencil pushers enjoyed their lives and comforts in peace. He never failed Rome. But Rome failed him.
>>18720468That certainly played a part. She couldn't lead armies on the field herself. Also relying on cataphracts seemed like a safe bet until Aurelian decided to use some unorthodox tactics and hired Palestinian clubmen to deal with heavy cavalry. Without heavy cavalry, the Palmyrenes were sitting ducks. There was no way anybody could win against the legions if properly led. That's why Rome's most destructive wars were when legions fought legions
>>18719638Crisis of third century is my favorite niche roman era. The imperial romans look kinda boring and bland. Late romans look dorky with their jeweled helms and barbarian themed armor. But this era.. although aurelian in that isn't historical look at that helm of the cavalryman behind him. Its so chonky. And they all wear this golden scale. Its like a mix of imperial era and eastern influence and it looks amazing.
>>18720054They just returned to their roots when you think about it. Rome 1 and to a lesser Medieval 2 were also cartoon fantasy bullshit based on pop-his rather than anything truly historical
>>18720461I do agree that of the two breakaway state, the Gallic Empire was the one most likely to not stick out for both proximity and shared cultureThe Palmyrian Empire by the start was a project to either have a permanent Levant-based Emperor within a collegial Imperial system at the best, and a outright new indipendent power at the worst
>>18720497I see what you mean
>>18720112>>18720095Vgh.....
>>18719563fpbp
>>18720112>>18720095She was a bad bich
>>18719559what fills the vacuum?
>>18720485Out of all the post-gallienus pre-diocletian emperors that helped ended the crisis why did later emperors try to claim claudius' legacy so much?
>>18722757One word, ConstantineHis father came from Dardania which was apparently close enough to Gothicus' birthplace so Constantine came up with a convienient genealogy that linked him to the illustrious emperor. Gothicus already enjoyed a great reputation despite the brief rule, because he was not assassinated (although I believe he was by Quintilius' agents) and he was fairly easy going especially compared to Aurelian. I don't think Aurelian was cruel, but the corrupt senatorial families he partially purged certainly thought so.
>>18719559>some a-rab outpost shithole on the edge of the eternal desert becomes the capital of an empire comprised of ancient kingdomsThere was no winning
