Post altars (any religion).
>>18720332No altars. I have my KJV, NKJV, ESV Reformation Study Bible, ESV, NLT.Calvinist Presbyterian
>>18720342Yeah so you're going to burn in hell for all eternity.
>>18720332That's awesome. Is that your altar?
I don’t want to post my altar and risk psychic contamination from 4chan
>>18720332Fucking larping loser
>>18720519Fuck off back to your subreddit fedora.
>>18720332>>18720813>>18720368enjoy hell!
Namaste and semper fi
>>18720332You understand this to be an altar?
>>18720332Graven images are not inherently irreligious or otherwise the angels on the ark of the covenant would have also been idolatry. You’re praying TO God but with the images of Jesus and the angels as like intermediate symbols of his divinity. Protestant stance on Iconoclasm is retarded and entirely out of sync with the actual Bible.
>>18721863This. The Jews love to dance around the topic of the fact that they did, and still do in orthodox and conservative sects, pray towards Jerusalem and the Temple/Western Wall in particular, but this is not iconoclastic monotheism if you have a preferred direction and a sacred, but lost, ark that signified the presence of God on earth. Muslims too, with the Ka’aba, but that’s a whole another rabbit hole. Ultimately it’s all icons, whether as a building or as a ruin of a wall. A Christian who knows God became flesh in Jesus, is justified then in making a placeholder icon for the human figure of Jesus.
>>18720342You brought the entire Presbyterian armory
>>18721863>Moreover, I have heard that certain persons have this grievance against me: When I accompanied you to the holy place called Bethel, there to join you in celebrating the Collect, after the use of the Church, I came to a villa called Anablatha and, as I was passing, saw a lamp burning there. Asking what place it was, and learning it to be a church, I went in to pray, and found there a curtain hanging on the doors of the said church, dyed and embroidered. It bore an image either of Christ or of one of the saints; I do not rightly remember whose the image was. Seeing this, and being loth that an image of a man should be hung up in Christ's church contrary to the teaching of the Scriptures, I tore it asunder and advised the custodians of the place to use it as a winding sheet for some poor person. Epiphanius of Salamis
>>18721863Veneration is an insincere pedantic distinction from worship.The two are exactly the same. Kissing relics and praying and gazing up to statues is a major violation of the second commandment. No carved images of anything from the heavens, do not bow down or worship them. Can you imagine the Apostle Paul kissing a statue of Jesus or his mother ?? Beyond credulity.The early church did not do this or engage in these practices. Icons came from pagan practices and is an accretion. Even Roman Catholic scholars concede this.Oh wait you say...... What about the Golden cherubim on the ark of the covenant ? Yes God instructed this to be created but the Jews didn't pray to or through the statues. The instruction was an exception to the rule, God's instruction must always be followed. The commandment still stands. God also instructed Saul to wipe out the Amalekites, does that mean we can now do as we please?? Of course not, Human life is precious.The bible is to be the authority not sinful men. All scripture is God breathed. The Reformed church is the correct and true Catholic church not in Rome.
>>18721863How about some church fathers on icons??Source - https://theopolisinstitute.com/dont-convert-icons-and-images-in-the-early-church/Irenaeus (c. 130–202) condemned the honoring of images “after the same manner of the Gentiles.”2 Clement of Alexandria (c.150–c. 215) wrote, “Works of art cannot then be sacred and divine.”3Origen wrote that Christians, “being taught in the school of Jesus Christ, [Christians] have rejected all images and statues;”5 they “cannot allow in the worship of the Divine Being altars, or temples, or images”; they “not only avoid temples, altars, and images, but are ready to suffer death when it is necessary, rather than debase by any such impiety the conception which they have of the Most High God.”6 The Synod of Elvira (c. 300–314), consisting of 19 bishops from the Iberian peninsula, resolved, “Pictures are not to be placed in churches, so that they do not become objects of worship and adoration.”7 Methodius of Olympus (250-311) wrote, “artificers . . . make images in human form, not perceiving and knowing their own Maker, are blamed by the Word.”Lactantius (250-325) wrote, “Wherefore it is undoubted that there is no religion wherever there is an image.Arnobius of Sicca (255-330) wrote, “there is nothing divine in imagesFinally, Epiphanius (c. 310–403), bishop of Salamis, Cyprus, on a tour through Palestine, found a church that had a curtain in it with an image of either Christ or a saint. It may have only been a decoration. Whether a decoration or something more, Epiphanius tore it down, ripped it into shreds, and wrote the local bishop, John, reminding him that such images are “contrary to our religion.”12
