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In 1585, a large, punitive force was assembled to punish the Makua of Mozambique for their repeated attacks after the ascendance of a Chief Mauruça to power. The Makua were a large tribe stretching from the Zambesi to the very northern part of modern-day Mozambique, now consisting of 3.5 million people. The tribe was noted by the Portuguese for its "primitivity," its men and women wearing miniscule amounts of cloth, women sometimes seen wearing nothing more than a leaf shawl covering their privy parts. Nevertheless, they were fierce, skilled, and regular raiders who terrorized Portuguese settlements, likely thanks to the latter's seizure of their people. The expedition was launched with the help of numerous African auxiliaries who worked under the Portuguese, which formed a large portion of the force. Portuguese regulars made up the remainder. The army proceeded normally. Armed to the teeth with guns and top of the line equipment, they managed to successfully infiltrate the "capital" of the Makua after advancing around 50 kilometers inland with little resistance, burning the whole village to the ground. The main force of the fierce Makua, however, were absolutely nowhere to be seen. Ignoring this glaring absence, the force of 700 troops under the crown would be relentlessly ambushed as they attempted to return to their territory on the coast. The entire force was wiped out including the commander, and only two soldiers and some slaves would manage to, miraculously, see the light of day after numerous Makua descended from the jungle. The battle was considered the second worst defeat for the Portuguese in the century, after the disaster at Alcácer Quibir against the Saadi. This battle is an example of the myth of the "disease barrier." The force remained at near-full combat capacity for practically all of its existence. Its destruction was entirely at the hands of African Makua, who skillfully mastered the terrain to inflict a great defeat for the Portuguese.
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>>18720975
Yasuke Oda Nobunaga's retainer is theorized to be belong to the tribe responsible for this defeat
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>>18720975
>>18720992
so what OP are you have ancestry with this tribe who farmer swarmed a bunch of Portuguese or something?
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>>18720975
Damn! These Niger-Congo/Nilotic peaceful naked slave victim niggers defeated the Poortuguese crakas who came to take over the East African slave trade from them all by themselves when the zoomalian muslim slaver "kangz" couldn't do it without Ottoman massa sending them Arab soldiers.
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>700 Portuguese
>The expedition was launched with the help of numerous African auxiliaries who worked under the Portuguese, which formed a large portion of the force.
so it wasn't 700 portuguese, it was a dozen or so portuguese commanding 100s of african auxiliaries
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>>18720975
It's a strangely unknown fact that, for the most part, European presence in Africa being limited to the coasts was not because of disease but instead because they were unable to milittarily or diplomatically penetrate into the interior. And oh boy, the portguese fucking tried.
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>>18721235
>European presence in Africa being limited to the coasts

do you include the millions of europeans (andalucians)n expelled from iberia in the 16th? they went inside north africa

also the barbary slaves, the janissaries etc didn't live on the coast only
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>>18721296
Tbh I meant European polities and their settlers/employees/traders, etc. Not all people of European descent. Obviously then the largest concentration Europeans in Africa would be in North Africa for a very long time. Both because of the Andalucians and also because of the Barbary slave trade. Janissaries didn't really patronize North Africa very much iirc. Only Egypt. Iirc Egypt only expands southwards toward Sudan in the 19th century. Before that the Sudanese basically self-islamize.
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>>18721306
We have some exemples of europeans deep inside africa

Hungarians in 16th Sudan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyarab_people

Spanish in 16th Mali
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judar_Pasha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arma_people (half andalucian muslims, half christian iberians)

under Mehmet Ali europeans people also moved deep inside africa iirc
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>>18721235
Stateless tribes with 200,000 people at most were wiping out armed Portuguese fleets and convoys
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>>18721323
>Egypt
Kek. Still Ottoman Turk kangz not gayreek copts or dancing boy arabs.
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>>18721345
Albanian muhammad ali pasha
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>>18721323
Well these don't really count, when we say "Couldn't move deep into Africa" we mean major armies of European origin from European countries conquering and defeating inland tribes which usually failed. Judar Pasha died like a dog and the Spanish mercenary descendant Arma in Timbuktu were attacked by Africans so frequently, that by the next half century they ceased to be independent, and were more or less vassals of everyone around them before finally being formally annexed. And the Egypto-Turkish hegemony in Africa? Was only temporary however unfortunate. Totally destroyed by Mahdists who wiped out everything they built within years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Shaykan
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>>18721155
im just gonna go ahead and drop the tvrth nuke here. if these people are your hero, you literally worship women. These faggot farmer societies are not your idols, they are matriarchal and matrilineal. its built cuckoldry and paternity confusion. Same with the native American tribes, at least that weren't pastoral, nomadic or HG like, because they tend to lean more patrilineal. The coolest tribe in Africa are the Maasi, a pastoralist patrilineal group
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>>18721235
Not true. Diseases like yellow fever could cripple armies, but also disease and pests in the tropics limited agriculture and made settlement undesirable. Where Europeans did bother to settle they did so successfully.
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>>18721364
>We wuz Kweenz n shieet
Yet all their Niger-Congo/Nilotic haplos have no arabs or crakas.
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>>18721235
>diplomatically penetrate
The Emperor of Ethiopia converted to Catholicism, you coping nigger and the Portuguese later built him a bridge which niggers haven't been able to repair for centuries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebara_Dildiy
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>>18721386
This is one battle with exaggerated numbers that boers made up as their national myth.
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>>18721419
its funny cause i know niggers irl are super macho but then they go on support this type of shit and im just thinking to myself you have no idea what your supporting. Also another fun story about the matrililneal tribes in the Americas is they sent their women to meet the European men. imagine that sending your women to meet men with guns and plate armor. BASED!
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>>18721466
I truly hate niggers
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>>18721458
Based on what?
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>>18720975
Stone Age Khoisan defeated Portuguese at the battle of salt river in 1510.



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