If it weren't for Islam, North Africa would be part of the west.
>>18721010I wonder if they would be considerd White or not. As it is it gets kind of liminal at times.
>>18721013They would be like Greeks or Portuguese I guess.
>>18721010Not even close. They treated north Africans like shit regardless of faith or affiliation/exposure to Arab culture.
>>18721010Even muslim converts of spain didn't consider north africans part of their kin, or euros, you idiot
>>18721032More in the sense of Latin America in that it's notionally Christian and part of the Western world but considered lesser than white Europeans.
>>18721010Your arguement falls apart when you consider there's millions of Christians in Egypt, Lebanon, Armenia, Ethiopia and none of those nations are considered western.
>>18721090They are a minority in their countries today and they never spoke Romance languages like North Africa once did
>>18721090Armenoid diaspora have successfully convinced people that they are white, at least in Shartistan where the barrier for whiteness is very low. Similar for Arab Christians.Ethiopians, obviously, are black.
>>18721093>They are a minority in their countries today Ethiopia and Armenia are both majority Christian. Lebanon is 40% Christian. There's 12 - 18 million Christians in Egypt.and they never spoke Romance languages like North Africa once didEgypt spoke Coptic and Greek for a long time. Lebanon has historically very large Greek, Armenian and French speaking communities. Armenian is Indo-European. Ethiopic languages are closely related to Hebrew.Language isn't everything anyway, look at the Basques, Finns, Hungarians, etc.
>>18721114Even Filipinos are somehow considered more Western than their SEA neighbors because they're Catholic instead of Muslims or Buddhists.
>>18721087There's nor reason to assume North Africa would somehow be seen as western or even western adjacent. Remember that Europeans in the colobial era still placed Arabs and Arabized groups strictly over non Arabized ones or one that got exposed to Arab culture but were still overall African. Why the fuck would the view Berbers as western?
>>18721118>Even Filipinos are somehow considered more WesternThe Philippines being the face of SEA poverty says otherwise.
>>18721117>French speaking communitiesSpeaking French just goes without saying for any Lebanese with any education whatsoever, regardless of if they are Muslim or Christian. It’s the same in the Maghreb. If you speak French or English you can already speak to any Arab in the world except mega ultra brainlets and poorfags
>>18721013Tunisians mostly yes. Algerians and Moroccans? Depend on the specific tribes . Some like the Kabyles (pic related) are usually fair and wouldnve comsodered as such. Others are so brown they wouldnt be considered white even if christians and westernozed
>>18721118The Philippines is basically a Latin American country transported to SEA.
>>18721146What even is "western"It can’t be white because Russia still isn’t western today It can’t be Christian otherwise most of Africa would be western It can’t be first liberal democracy, otherwise Japan would be western.So what is it? It’s a meme but unironically Faustian spirit is a better explanation than all of the above
>>18721151>If you speak French or English you can already speak to any Arab in the world except mega ultra brainlets and poorfagsLmao.
>>18721153>Some like the Kabyles (pic related) are usually fair and wouldnve comsodered as such.Kabyles and other Berbers were on the bottom in the colonial structure, their language and culture faced high erosion in said colonial states because they viewed Arabs in a higer standing & found it easier to govern an Arabic monolingual colony.If mixed raced and heavily westernized subjects in the new world or Asia were never really considered truly western what makes you think they'd let indigenous Africans of any colour in? France had actually departments in Senegal for 100+ years and their status basically meant nothing despite what the French state promised.
>>18721239The 4 communes my bad.
>>18721239>Kabyles and other Berbers were on the bottom in the colonial structurefactually wrong, they were seen as superior to the arabshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabyle_myth
>>18721159>It can’t be Christian otherwise most of Africa would be westernAlso Ancient Greece and Rome (the foundations of western civilization) were pagan, not Christian.
>>18721146>Why the fuck would the view Berbers as western?North Africans would speak the African Romance language(s) and Berbers would be a minority
>>18721318>Also Ancient Greece and Rome (the foundations of western civilization) were pagan, not Christian.i mean, they also invented Christianity, so...meh
>>18721360They didn't.
>>18721360Jews did that tho
>>18721307Lmao they still were treated like shit and constantly contradictory. Did you even read your link? The Berbers innplacws like French Algeria were still seen as an inferior group they (the French) had to transform as a counterforce to the "Arab" population in a divide and conquer strat. Same with the French giving preferential status to local Algerian Jews and pressuring them into acting in the interests of the colonial regime as middlemen agents. Then never had any respect for Kabyles and other Berbers, hence the linguistic and cultural repression they faces for ages.
>>18721398And the pro-Kabyle narratives wre all bases off erroneous assumption and beliefs about Berber based upon the author or propagandists disbelief about both the Berber and Arab populations such as thinking that they are mutually exclusive of each other.
>>18721319If Coptic (a langusge that was formally written and used in work+commerce) died out with way way more people in Egypt at it's initial start prior to the policies against it, what makes you think ARL would even stand a chance. Especially with the long departure of the Romans and the fact that no one wrote in the vernacular.
>>18721416Latin was utilized as the lingua franca in Europe, thus ensuring the Romance languages of the continent would survive
>>18721010Do we want nafris to be part of the west?
>>18721013>I wonder if they would be considerd White or not.They already are
>>18721010This was back when the punic stock dominatedNot the ape stock
>>18721474>thus ensuring the Romance languages of the continent would surviveThey had their own vulgar latin spinoffs. In North Africa it was a trade language at best with little written formalisation and a lot of local African influences who's speakers all still used their own languages predominantly.
>>18721010Sounds like islam protected the west demographically for a millenia or so.
>>18721148How are they the face of SEA poverty when there are far worse examples like Myanmar or Cambodia?
>>18721158Filipinos unfortunately got colonized by the United States of America and they are Satanic and plunder their colonies rather than actually invest in them. Look how poor their former colonies; Liberia, Panama, and Philippines are, despite being strategically located. Their wicked and disgusting asses invest more money on their former enemies Japan, Korea, China, and Vietna, than any of their former colonies.If the Philippines gained independence directly from Spain. It would be like their fellow Iberian origined nation in Asia, Macau, formerly Portuguese Macau, the 2nd richest Asian nation after Singapore.
>>18721595no pagpag today, bingbong
>>18721393Uhuh that's why Christianity is mainly written in Koine Greek by Hellenized Jews living under the Roman Empire.
>>18721600Shutuup fatso, Filipinos die of something they cant control, starvation. Mostly from following your economic policies aka the Washington Consensus which most other rich Asians ignored. Meanwhile most fat obese Americans died of overeating, something controllable. How retarded freely choosing to die just because you cant control your gluttony.
>>18721608sounds like slumdog cope
>>18721613A Filipino Slumdog who is only 60% in debt is hella richer than you Debt fag Mr. US Economy is 120% in debt.
North africa would be better of christian vs muslim. But it still wouldn't solve their average low iq problem. It would be like latin america. Still violent. Still corrupt. But better than what it is now. Women would have wya better lives as well.
>>18721602>mainly written... by Hellenized JewsYes.
>>18721608>Meanwhile most fat obese Americans died of overeating, something controllable.Well it's obesity, type 2 diabetes, chronic inflammation and heart disease. Sorry to be the nerd here.
>>18721617huh, maybe they're exploiting those slumdogs hard enough then
>>18721527Strange cope to make.>Not the ape stockSuch as what?
>>18721620Hellenized Jews include Greeks and Romans are you aware of that Anon? Luke was a writer of a Gospel and he was a Greek Doctor living in Syria and many Letters to the Roman provinces in the Apostolic Epistles were written by Greeks and Romans.
>>18721621Thats ok I appreciate the specifying.
>>18721618>Women would have wya better lives as well.hope she sees this thread bro
>>18721625So you agree, Jews invented Christianity>b-but they were Hellenized JewsDon't care.
Da Joos are why I’m not a real woman
>>18721622Exploitation, slumdug. Gosh demeaning and exploiting others is so trur to your damn nature as a Satanic American. Your nation is born in filth. As the refugee center of all those who betrayed their original homelands and exchanged ideals for money, as well as criminals in their original nations who want to make "A new life" in America.
>>18721649Christianity was written exclusively in Koine Greek. Christianity would not exist without Greco-Romanticism.
>>18721010Europe and North Africa is part of the Mediterranean though
>>18721657Yeah and Seinfeld was written in English, it still remains Jews wrote it. Non-sequitur.
>>18721666The Messianic line of King David has been in alliance with Greeks against Jews since the time the Book of Exodus wherein the incoming Israelites described Philistines to have come from the island lf Crete from Greece, and that, King David so much as fled to them when King Saul attempted to kill them and as a reward promoted Greek-Philistines in the Israeli Royal Guards Caste. That have played a role in every dynastic conflict in Israel from Solomon onwards. And their descendants still affect Christian canon in that Philip and Andrew, two of Christ's Apostles have Greek names and descent. Honestly Christianity is the only major religion where Rome, Greece, Gaulia (France), Spain, and etc. Have such active mentions. Look at the Quran and Torah and you are met with silence. Yes good luck rejecting a religion than has incorporated you in its foundational books.
The Papacy is in Rome not Jerusalem since the chief Apostle, Peter Prince of the Apostles, the most frequently mentioned Disciple among the 12, made it his headquarters, not the Holy Land or Jerusalem. Rome, EVROPE.
>>18721678kI don't particularly care about Jewish history and I shan't be worshipping a Jew as a god.
>>18721681This is also the apostle that insisted Christians must be circumcised and stop eating pork.
>>18721691What Pythagoras claims is bad to eat is beans
>>18721685The Communion of Saints has deified all nations. We have an Aztec version of the Virgin Mary in Our Lady of Guadalupe.Saint Francis of Assisi, of Italy and France the Seraphic Saint bears the Stigmata the Wounds of Christ, is the closest to the angelic heirarchy to Godhood barring the Virgin Mary herself.The church is Katholikos meaning Universal.If you actually read the Old Testament and New Testament in the original books and know that multiple languages and ethnicities made it up: Hebrew, Egyptian, Babylonian, Persian, Aramaic, Ethiopian, Punic, Greek, Latin, Celtic, and etc. Any illusions that is solely Jewish collapses.
>>18721701>The church is Katholikos meaning Universal.Yup, sounds like something a Jew would come up with alright.
>>18721691What an idiot and in the same book you misquote with your lies specifically the Acts of the Apostles, God sent a vision of all animals to Saint Peter saying that anything can be eaten even pigs.And in the same book, Paul corrected Peter on that saying that Circumcision is not necessary for Christians only Baptism.
>>18721703Its a Greek term Idiot.
>>18721708So is homo, that doesn’t make it less gay.
>>18721705Yeah the fact the fanfic written by the same guy who plagiarised Marcion has to contrive a scenario where Peter totally learns his lesson and realises actually gentiles don’t need to get circumcised and totally can eat pork is very interesting
>>18721625Jews are neither Greek nor Roman. They do not worship the Greco-Roman gods nor do they have any respect for Greco-Roman culture
>>18721724Can you please stfu with your lies. The Didache was written in the Lifetime of the Apostles and Saint Clement of Rome and an Italian born Pope directly appointed by Peter. And mentioned in the Biblical Book of Philippians (Philippians 4:3).Upheld all Apostolic Traditions uninterupted from the original Apostles to the European succesors and were even mentioned in the Bible.
>>18721757The Didache has nothing to do with Acts of the Apostles, you mong. It’s also Jewish as fuck lol
I disagree, it it wasn't for Islam north Africa along with southern Spain, southern Italy and Greece would all be part of the east.
>>18721010>>18721083Its about genetic diversity; North Africans werent part of the greater european genepool. They werent connected to the 'super spreaders' who unified Europe
>>18721730ancient Jews were not the modern ones either, completely different people that no longer exist
>>18721802The fact that people have been redpilled on the Jews since the BCE era lends me to believe their ancient counterparts were not any more trustworthy than their modern descendants.
>>18721010>The symbol of God's light is literally marked as "Truth" like in a boomer political cartoon as if the metaphor wasn't fucking obvious The frenchoid that painted this was a massive midwit. A 13 year old's conception of "deep symbolism".
The Roman rump states, including Eastern Rome, should've just let the Germanics have their way with North Africa, pushing them there from elsewhere at most Si.e pressuring them to consolidate there by leaving it alone).. All arabic advance westward fed off the corpse of Roman grievances.
>>18721010Is this true?
