>And God did mean things to people
This is valid criticism of Christianity. You're just coping.

>>18721914
God is mean?

>>18721922
>my actions have consequences?!?!
>>18722767
No he’s just

Indeed, forcing your child to partake in stupid shit is a bad thing.
>my parents made me go to hecking boring struggle session every week!

>>18722785
I'm sorry about your parents, anon.

>>18722775
What "actions" did the babies in Egypt do that killed them as a "consequence"?

>>18722795
You don’t need to be but the common claim that atheists are just mad dad made them go to church isn’t a sentiment you actually disagree with in theory. If someone was forced as a child to attend hippie indigenous American spiritualism kumbaya circle hour to learn how the Great Spirit wants you to love the earth and marginalized POC, you would sympathize with that person if they held their parents in contempt for it.

>>18722845
Also inb4

The hypothetical I proposed is no less ridiculous than the average church service of learning Jewish mythology to emotionally manipulate you into digging a well in Cameroon.

>>18722811
If father, grandfather, great-grandfather, great great grandfather, all grew up to become wicked and godless what can we expect from baby to grow up to become?

Why should God have pity with the babies of the people who ordered the babies of his people to be thrown in the river?

>>18722855
Jewish babies are worth more than gentile babies. This is true. It would also be justified for god to kill every European first born for what they did his people in the holocaust

>>18721914
Evil under atheism
>my parents made me go to school and learn about heckin science

>>18722845
Not really, they were trying to educate you as best as they can, and they simply didnt knew any better. This does nothing to dispel the notion that atheists are the way they are due to unresolved daddy issues. You included.

>>18722855
>genocide the universe because of original sin

>>18722855
>what can we expect from baby to grow up to become?
Irrelevant. We're not talking about kids' upbringing. We're talking about God killing babies before their upbringing proper even takes place.

>Why should God have pity with the babies
Because he expects us to.

>>18722811
Because there were NINE(9) other plagues and they still didn’t listen to Moses to stop abusing the Israelites and let them go

>>18723106
Hence why the plagues never happened because no human would be stubborn if given undeniable evidence for god

>>18723133
You have the King James Bible and still reject God, so no.

>>18722991
>God killing babies before their upbringing proper even takes place.
.

He is smart enough to judge who deserves to die. He knows people before they are born as if they had already lived.

>Because he expects us to.

The God of Moses does not expect you to have pity on the children of your oppressors after centuries of oppression.

>>18721914
So according to you
>God ordering genocide = A-okay
>Woman having child = Evil
amazing

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>You think a woman who had sex with over a thousand men of all ethnicities and had a huge giant golden piss shower orgy as a baby shower having a baby is evil?
>wow! hecking problematic there champ

>>18723219
I’ve literally never seen anybody speak positively of Bonnie Blue except pajeet #276 lined up to fuck her. She literally got banned from onlyfans for being an abominable whore.

>>18723249
Bonnie Blue supporters
>50% atheist
>50% hindu
>probably a few muslims men
>0% Christian

funny how that works

>>18723219
Idk man, take it up with your God who used all that as an occasion to create a human being

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>>18723255
Here’s some real life statistics for you

>>18723269
yeah the Christian ones are always the one being persecuted down there and seeminly prop the entire thing up.

>>18721914
>conflates feminists and atheists
There are Christian feminists. There are patriarchal atheists.
It seems the two-party system has permanently damaged americans' brains, since they can't fathom there can be more than only two sides.

>>18721914
Why do you suppose I was forced to go to sunday school? Why do you even suppose my parents went to church besides weddings, funerals and baptisms?

>>18723285

The Bible 2000 years ago
>anyone that gives women leadership positions in their church is not actually a christian church
Atheist
>got it

OP now
>feminists are not Christian
Atheist
>not true. look at these a sects where women are given leadership positions in the church

>>18723255
>50% hindu
There are more christians in India than any amount of humanity combined that know who Bonnie Blue is. Arguing for Christianity as a social institution is asinine. It’s composed of half the third world, the niggerest niggers, and every crackwhore who posts “only god can judge me” on facebook.

>>18723293
Bible didn't exist 2000 ago
Also, who said about leadership? Learn to read.

>>18723305
we just had the Lindsay Clancy trial where the entire white first world jury said she was innocent except the Catholic Haitian man.

>>18723140
The KJV was literally compiled by a homosexual retard

>>18723307
my point was that saying "Christian Feminists" is like saying

Christian Satanists
Christian Islamists
Christian porn addicts

>nooooo you don't understand, jesus was totally a radical feminists liberal preacher in Acient Judea
>when he said "sin no more" he didnt mean whores had to stop whoring. he meant

>>18723305
If you consider a Christian someone who obeys and imitates Jesus then there's less than a few thousand christians on earth.

>>18723315
i wouldnt even go that far. Its just this faggot is insisting someone who subscribes to Bonnie Blue is still Christian.

Thats some atheist logic for you.

>>18723285
Like there are meat eating vegans.

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>>18721914
Krishna opens up a whole new class of theodicy. Krishna introduces līlā: reality need not be engineered solely as a maximally efficient machine for creaturely comfort. The One can manifest as play—wildness, danger, comedy, tragedy, concealment, revelation.

That opens a genuinely different theodicy from “every evil was necessary for some greater good.” Some features could instead belong to the wanton excess of divine play.

But it also makes the moral problem sharper: once līlā includes cancer, catastrophe, and agony, “mischief” becomes terrifying.

>>18723269
Ethiopia is the only Christian nation on earth that did not bow to Rome and adopted the Gregorian Calendar.

>>18723314
Instead of arguing with me, you've decided to make a strawman? I did not say Jesus was a radical feminist. I did not say a word about whores. Feminist Christians exist, and they are usually against whores. Patriarchal atheists also exist.

>>18723332
>if you just ignore how 3rd Wave feminism blatanly says being a prostitute, pornstar, OF model, getting an abortion and getting railed while in college is empowering and sticking it to your conservative father, then feminism is actually trvd and based

>>18723338
Not every feminist supports it. You've picked an issue about which people of a certain group have different opinions. Among those opinions, you've picked one and extrapolated it on the whole group.

>>18723346
you know how Visa and Mastercard are censoring anime games on Steam and japanese hentai in general, yet seemingly have no word about OnlyFans or any porn site?
You do realize the group behind that are "trad" feminists Christians assosocited with the heritage foundation, you know.

But yeah, feminists are trvd and christian.

>>18723348
>But yeah, feminists are trvd and christian.
Some of the feminists are christian, therefore they aren't atheists. I did not say anything about how trad they are.
And tell me, o the trueest Tradchad Christian, why are you bothered by them blocking hentai?

>>18723355
the point is that most feminists support women like Bonnie Blue and Lindsay Clancy and Christa Pike.
And even the few feminists that are Christian don't even have a word to say about hypersexual culture, they just go after video games.
Why is it that "Christian Feminists" despite being against slut culture, the first thing they complain about are 2D anime titties instead of Bonnie Blue?

>Some of the feminists are christian
>>Some of the vegans are meat eaters

>>18723365
Strawmen again? Vegans don't eat meat by definition. Some feminists are Christians, with which you've agreed
>And even the few feminists that are Christian don't even have a word to say about hypersexual culture, they just go after video games.
>2D anime titties
Why do you care about it? You seem to defend the position of trad christianity. You've said a church with a female leader is not a true church. You've ridiculed atheists for porn. But as soon as it's hentai, it's suddenly bad to block it.

Just for you information, I'm not a feminist. In fact, I generally don't like feminism. But I also don't like hypocritical moralfags.

>>18721914
Being fruitful and multiplying is literally the commandment of God anon.

>>18723383
>be feminist christians
>have the political lobbying power to outlaw anime games on steam
>0 comment about Onlyfans
>0 comment about hypersexual sorority culture
>0 comment about female celebrities that promote hypersexuality
>0 comment how most people who advocate abortion are always doing it for sex before marriage
>its always the 2D anime titties that "feminsits christians" go after. nothing else

Are you going to explain why that is or just spam "why do you care" again?

>>18723292
please understand, I can't actually argue for my religion honestly so I have to make up strawmen to get angry about

>>18723106
>they still didn’t listen to Moses to stop abusing the Israelites and let them go
No shit, retard. They were babies.

>>18723189
>He knows people before they are born as if they had already lived.
Here's a follow-up question you're clinically retarded if you didn't see coming: what am I supposed to make of all those dictators he let kill millions?

>The God of Moses does not expect you to have pity on the children of your oppressors after centuries of oppression.
Are you sure? Cause Jesus taught the exact opposite. Do people teaching the exact opposite of Jesus' message go to heaven?

>>18723388
>Are you going to explain why that is or just spam "why do you care" again?
My opinion? In short, they want to control men's sex life.

>>18723387
Yeah I'm trying to understand why "having sex with a lot of people means it is wrong to have children" makes any sense under the Christian worldview? Like I get why they would take issue with the "having sex with a lot of people bit" but presumably they believe in redemption and what not so being a whore wouldn't preclude you from being a good person later. Hosea is literally told by God to marry a whore.

>>18723400
Remember, this is I CAN'T BREED: The Website

I have to applaud the atheists itt.

They went from
>hey, i don't believe in God or the Bible, but im not some perverted monster
to
>>18723400
>hey im not saying i like Bonnie Blue. but i fail to understand what she did wrong at all

>>18723408
>Bonnie Blue
A whore, her child will either become another whore or the prudest person the world has ever seen.

>>18723400
It has been scientifically proven that women absorb the DNA of every man who cums in her and passes it on to her children. So the children of whores are genetically corrupted.

>>18723408
I didn't say I like or dislike her, I don't spend very much time thinking about porn stars. Are you going to explain why it is wrong for a whore to have children? An atheist could actually make a stronger argument it's wrong than you could

>>18723411
whores back then under a Christian society
>woman who discreetly accepts money for sex

whores under the modern era
>demonic entity that gets pregant, has hundreds of men piss on her while pregnant. and sells her soiled panties and sealed farts to her fans


The two are not the same.

>>18723391
>what am I supposed to make of all those dictators he let kill millions?
He personally raised them up to kill his enemies those who love sin.

Consider the following verse:
>“What sorrow awaits Assyria, the rod of my anger.
I use it as a club to express my anger.
I am sending Assyria against a godless nation,
against a people with whom I am angry.
Assyria will plunder them,
trampling them like dirt beneath its feet.
But the king of Assyria will not understand that he is my tool;
his mind does not work that way.
His plan is simply to destroy,
to cut down nation after nation.
He will say,
‘Each of my princes will soon be a king.
We destroyed Calno just as we did Carchemish.
Hamath fell before us as Arpad did.
And we destroyed Samaria just as we did Damascus.
Yes, we have finished off many a kingdom
whose gods were greater than those in Jerusalem and Samaria.
So we will defeat Jerusalem and her gods,
just as we destroyed Samaria with hers.’”

After the Lord has used the king of Assyria to accomplish his purposes on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem, he will turn against the king of Assyria and punish him—for he is proud and arrogant. He boasts,

“By my own powerful arm I have done this.
With my own shrewd wisdom I planned it.
I have broken down the defenses of nations
and carried off their treasures.
I have knocked down their kings like a bull.
I have robbed their nests of riches
and gathered up kingdoms as a farmer gathers eggs.
No one can even flap a wing against me
or utter a peep of protest.”

But can the ax boast greater power than the person who uses it?
Is the saw greater than the person who saws?
Can a rod strike unless a hand moves it?
Can a wooden cane walk by itself?
Therefore, the Lord, the Lord of Heaven’s Armies,
will send a plague among Assyria’s proud troops,
and a flaming fire will consume its glory.

>>18723413
>subjective atheist morality is just as valid as your chud religion!
>anyway i cant see what Bonnie Blue did as morally wrong at all. personally not a fan

>>18723417
>Even whores better when they are Christian!
Seriously though, I think Bonnie Blue would be a wellcumed guest at Alexander VI's feasts.

>>18723426
>>Even whores better when they are Christian!
majority Christian society*

how is this wrong according to you?

>>18723431
>how is this wrong according to you?
What do you mean?

>>18721914
Acts of worship that are forced or insincere are meaningless anyway. Your parents wasted your time.

>>18723420
Oh so God raised Nero up to kill Christians, his enemies who love sin. Got it.

>>18723421
So you literally don't have a reason it's wrong you just think it is. Sounds kind of subjective Anon.

>>18723474
Did you personally know every Christian in that era to know if they were loyal and faithful and obedient to God or if they didn't become hypocrites and went astray and started teaching false doctrines and engaging in sins and incited God's anger and wrath?

If Israel are his people and were still capable of inciting his wrath and being destroyed by him, why couldn't group of christians do the same?

What makes you think God can never be angry at christians and punish them?

Don't you know God holds those who claim to know him at a higher standards than those who don't know him?

Judgement starts with God's house said Peter didn't he?

>>18723591
>Don't you know God holds those who claim to know him at a higher standards than those who don't know him?
Is that why irreproachable people who don't believe go to hell while christcuck who serial rape go to heaven?

>>18723601
>while christcuck who serial rape go to heaven?
[Citation Needed]

>>18721914
It sure is easy to win arguments against strawmen, isn't it?

Does this retarded bullshit really warrant a thread?

>>18723315
That’s not the criteria though. This thread is just shitflinging over belief in god vs disbelief in god.

>>18723609
John 3:16.

>>18723633
You don't believe anything he said if you're an active rapist.

>>18721914
>No you can't just oppose an organization whose only outputs are child rape and empowerment of foreign groups over you it must be personal issues because uhm....

>>18723255
Why do Christians on his love lying so much? Is it because their god is actually Typhon-Set, the great deceiver?

>>18723615
the other /his/ threads:

>whose youre favorite /his/ mommy?
>did Hitler actually lose WW2?
>what geno was Claudius
>richard carrier just released another vid deboonking xtians

>>18723308
Are you implying Catholic Haitians are the only people who don't understand what psychosis is?

>>18724198
its funny how the atheists get so offended when you say bonnie blue is a bad person.

>>18723315
>few thousand christians on Earth
All of them subbed to Bonnie Blue btw.

>>18724205
>Thinks the disagreement is about Ms. Blue's character and not the purported statistics
Add low IQ to the list of flaws.

>>18724203
>>18724209
>>18724214
>atheists openly admit to being Clancy and Blue supporters

kek. this thread was totally necessary.

>>18724215
Anther blatant lie! Typhon-Set is smiling.

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>>18722855
One those babies might have been the next albert einstein

>>18724229
that image aside, have you ever noticed how when people bring up the Einstein example, they treat general relativity like its a one of a kind paradigm that only einstein could come up with as opposed to... it being a science that gets discovered eventually like every other field of science?

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>>18721914
>Evil under Christianity
Torture, child abuse, psychological terrorism, lies, hypocrisy, etc

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>>18724239

>>18723388
How are you online enough to care about hentai games getting the plug pulled yet not online enough to know that payment processors tried to shut down onlyfans too? Do you just forget events <5 years after they happen? How do you function in day-to-day life?

>>18724243
>not online enough to know that payment processors tried to shut down onlyfans too?

feminists when it comes to anime women
>controls and runs entire payment processors to do their bidding
feminists when it comes to OF
>"dont do that, okay?"

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>>18724252
I'm being 100% serious, how do you function in the real world if you're incapable of remembering events after 4 years

>>18724259
im sure that ban held up after all these years....

>>18724261
It didn't because they changed payment processors and negotiated significantly worse deals. They had to do this because they are a porn company, and losing porn would destroy their business model.
Steam is not a porn company. Doing away with your hentai games would not cripple them. They still might let you watch hentai if they think it's worth the added costs and risks

>>18724273
>It didn't because they changed payment processors and negotiated significantly worse deals.
NTA. After reading this, I actually recall something similar about Pornhub. Them changing the PP or something...

>>18724278
Yeah it's an extremely common thing with pornographic content. A large part of it is that PPs can be sued if someone bought CSA using them, another part is that chargebacks are extremely common because people don't want "backdoor sluts 9" on their credit card history, and part of it is from genuine conservative/feminist activism

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>>18723426
>remember that thing that happened in the 10th century and everyone at the time agreed was bad? Bet you feel like a real piece of shit now, huh?

>>18721914
Christians do not know what Good is. They just know might makes right and social conformism.

You Christians just listen to the guy who you think has the most power.

True morals are convictions which do not require a reward to stand by.

True morals are not broken by threats of Hell either.

Even if the Christian God were real, I would still stand by my morals and reject such an evil being. No matter how how the fires of Hell and no matter what the bribe of servile Heaven was.

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And the Good Moral is this;

"The only moral way for a conscious viewpoint to exist, is as a sovereign and free God."

And the Christian's reaction here is to cite the fragility of the flesh.

The Flesh is not the conscious viewpoint. The Flesh is a snowball of deterministic accidents.

What is the difference between God and the Unborn?

Both are innocent in the Christian's Eyes. But only the Unborn are forced to suffer?

That is an unjust ontological asymmetry present in the Christian Worldview.

Christianity is not real. Karma is not real. ( They're the same evil premises by the way ).

What is real is that this is my dream. I'm the only conscious viewpoint here. And I'm going home after I'm done here.

All Conscious Viewpoints deserve Godhood.

Anything else is sociopathic servility.