Why cant they win wars?What in their history makes them suck at much at anything besides negrophilia?
Not only have France won a majority of the wars they have fought in, they are probably the single most militarily influential nation in European history.There's a reason that so many of the military terms used by non-French army come from France. Of all the countries in Europe France is perhaps the worst example of a country being unable to win wars, as it not only does win wars but has often done so against overwhelming odds without significant foreign aid. There's a reason so much of European military history can be boiled down to>oh god we must all work together to stop France taking over the world
>Why do frenchI'm tired of brown ESLs in this board.
>>18722669France has always been an extremely poor man's version of Italy
>>18723038That's spain
>>18722669They were extremely dominant and successful for a while and like things often go this afflicted them with a bit of hybris leading to them picking the wrong fights
>>18722669Not enough coal reserves to properly industrialize
>>18722669They were so dominant and successful that the British felt that the Lesser Anti-French Moat wasn't enough to keep them safe. So they moved to North America.
>>18723034Speak high-class French language, filthy English peasant
>>18723456C'est 2026, mon frère. Aujourd'hui, le français est une langue africaine et tous les hommes intelligents en France parlent anglais. 1066 est vengé
>>18722669They were good until about the War of Austrian Succession. After that there was a steep decline up until the Napoleonic Era and after that France fell into increasing irrelevance as it lost its population advantage over the rest of Europe.
>>18722669bloated and lathargic.>Decently successful during early crusades>Horribly inept during 100 years war, "Won" simply by waiting till engalnd had an internal crisis and local lords thought they might have a better gig with the french king>Italian wars, even though uber prepared failed spectacularly>30 years war mostly just financed other powers>Sun king made decent incremental progress>post sun king flop after flop>napoleon clearest stunning success>1800s killing monkey towel heads and being beaten by germany>wwi smashed head against wall until it could declare "victory" while its allies did most of the actual winning>ww2 folded>after, just continued to cope and try to pretend it was a major power.Biggest reason by far is that they get lazy because of their size.
>>18723621> local lords thought they might have a better gig with the french kingThat’s what the 100 years war was all about though. All the actual battles were just part of the sales pitch to the local lords to join team red or team blue
>>18722669They were gods of war until Napoleonic Wars and 1860s. Later they just have lost a steam and not only with a war but also with a lot of other things
>>18723664>They were gods of war until Napoleonic Warsdo you mean the oposite?
>>18723723i would told you to read but you can't write as well brownie
>>18723732> i would told you to read
>>18723734the browner becomes the brownied it seems.
>>18722669Does taking Mexico City for a little count as winning?
>>18723734butthurt Jeet spic lol>Punjabi Mexican Americans or Punjabi Chicanos, originally Punjabi Mexicans, are a distinctive ethnicity holding its roots in a migration pattern that occurred since the British Raj. The first conglomeration of these cultures occurred in the Imperial and Central Valleys in 1907, near the largest irrigation system in the Western Hemisphere. The majority of them localized to Yuba City, California.
>>18723723They were the dominant threat that loomed over the HRE, and France dominated Europe military/politically for ~150 years starting in the 17th century
>>18724170Only in the mid 17th. For the first half of the 17th Spain wzs still the dominant power
>>18723038>>18723043Both France and Spain actually have little to do with Italy and are on fact much more similar to each other both in a cultural and genetic sense than either are to Italy
>>18724315Spain was never the dominant power, it's peak was being France's rival and peer. The whole point of the Habsburg empire was basically being the anti-France NATO of its day.
>>18724328Spain from the 16th century to the mid 17th century was unarguably the greatest power in Europe. The Tercios dominated the european battlefields and before Rocroi they never suffered any major defeat, Spanish troops entered Paris while any attempt from the French to cross the Pyrenees fail short. The French had to lower themselves to side with the Muslims and Protestants to be able to contain Spain and only after the latter was spent after decades of war against both did France succeed. Pretending they were somehow equal was a gigantic cope. Francis I wouldn't have begged Soliman for help if it was the case.
>>18724376>Lose the eponymous Franco Spanish war>Lose the 80 years war (basically just France propping up Calvinist Mujahideen) >Lose the Portuguese restoration war >Constantly get BTFO by France in Italy >Ultimately wind up being a glorified French satellite Plus, lmao at accusing France of lowering itself to allying with Protestants when Spain was constantly teaming up with the Eternal Anglo just to cope with France
>>18724390>Lose the eponymous Franco Spanish war>Lose the 80 years war (basically just France propping up Calvinist Mujahideen)>Lose the Portuguese restoration warAll those happened happened by the mid 17th century>Constantly get BTFO by France in ItalyThis is just false, Spain won most of the Italian wars and controlled all of southern Italy and Milan while France never achieved long term success thereIrrele>Ultimately wind up being a glorified French satelliteIrrelevant to the period discussed and also false, the first war of Philip V was against France and later Spain ruled over French Louisiana. Weird for sattelite state to steal one of your major colony from you.
>>18724407>Spain's only W on France, the country that literally Soviet-tier vassalised it, is running New Orleans for a couple of decades
>>18724408Well it means that Spaniards got to rule over French people and a French territory while the opposite didnt happen. So much for being a satellite.
>>18724416>Roussillon (still French today>Santo Domingo >Spain itself Plus, if this is your cope, I’ll remind you Spain didn’t conquer Louisiana. It was their compensation for losing Florida in a war France started and their satellite dutifully followed them into
>>18722669What did Iran just blow up?
>>18724408Charles V captured King Francis in combat
>>18724423>RoussillonGeographically it's in France even if the people there are Catalans>I’ll remind you Spain didn’t conquer Louisiana.Never say they did and that's actually the entire fucking point, the French Bourbons ceded to their supposed "satellite" one of their major colony while the opposite situation didn't happen.
Before WWII France had a great track record. Lost once to the Prussians and another time to the entire world
>>18723621>napoleon clearest stunning successTactically stunning, yes. Strategically the wars in the aftermath of the French Revolution (including the Napoleonic Wars) were a gigablunder from which France has yet to recover.
>>18724521Like you mentionned a soviet satellite state, imagine if somehow Russia let half of Siberia being ruled from and by Poland. This would obviously be impossible to conceive that's why this retarded equivalence don't work.
>>18723621>wwi smashed head against wall until it could declare "victory" while its allies did most of the actual winningThey were the ones who broke the line and invented modern logistics. At the end of the war france had the strongest military in the world
>>18723467>1066>The greatest achievement in French history.>Also they were Danes and not really French.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oRoVxMb0No
>>18724671Except France actually ruled basically none of its claimed territory in Louisiana. Hispanchistas are so EU4 brained
>>18725185If they were Danes than Bob Marley was British.
>>18724964>At the end of the war france had the strongest military in the worldMuch good it did them the next time they needed it.>1 month, 2 weeks, and a day.>>18725322>These are ethnic Danes>Who moved into France as mercenaries hired by the French crown>They kept a distinct culture that was clearly differentiated from the surrounding French culture>They spoke their own dialect>They remained ethnically distinctOK Pierre. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>18725319Louisianna was the most important French colony back then after Quebec retard
>>18725323>These are ethnic DanesAnd therein lies the cope.As soon as Rollo and his men landed in Normandy they immediately got to work mutting with the French aristocracy, and did so for every generation onwards, looking at William's family tree you will even find rando French commoners among his grandmothers. If these people are ethnic Danes, then the entire population of Jamaica are ethnic Brits.>They kept a distinct culture that was clearly differentiated from the surrounding French cultureAh yes, the famously Danish culture of feudalism, Catholicism, speaking French and drinking wine.>They spoke their own dialectWhich just so happens to be completely intelligible with old French, and in fact is still semi-intelligible with modern French. A modern French person can read medieval Norman French and understand the majority of it. A modern English person cannot read Old English and understand any of it.
>>18725338>Magic Dirt intensifies!>It's not very effective!
>>18725329No, Haiti was the most important colony, then the other Caribbean islands, then Quebec. Louisiana (really, basically just New Orleans) was always a massive financially drain, the Spanish got pranked.
>>18725343I was speaking demographically. It had the highest French population after Quebec. Haiti was a plantation colony with a couple of whites and tons of niggers and mutts.Also if French really cared about financial drain they would have already gave independence to their overseas territories.
>>18725353> was a plantation colony with a couple of whites and tons of niggers and mutts.Uhm... what exactly do you think Louisiana was?
>be france>one of the strongest and most influential nations in all of history>lose once in WW2>suddenly everyone thinks your nation is filled with cowards and pedophilesHas there ever been an instance of slander this bad before?
>>18725366>Be France>Enter WWII with one of the undoubtedly strongest armies on the planet>Surrender in a shamefully short amount of time, because the Germans pulled a sneaky on you - in exactly the same way they'd done in your last two wars with them>Immediately become Nazi Germany's best friend ever, fight alongside them for longer than many of their allies who chose that alliance>Hand over Allied airmen downed over France, who were fighting for your freedom, to the Gestapo, to the point where French civilians became a greater threat to downed Allied airmen than the actual German forces>Your entire 'resistance' movement was mostly just marxists who met up in bars to drink and complain about how their girlfriends had left them for Germans, until British intelligence actually turned them into a vaguely credible threat to the occupational force, and only because Britain insisted on continuing to arm them and radicalize them>After the war is over demand that everyone forgets your collaboration and complicity with the Nazi regime, NATO agrees to play along with this because your economy is still significant enough to be worthwhile. Has there ever been an instance of such a shameful national history being denied and reinterpreted before?
>>18722669because jews
>>18725361Louisiana was 50/50, Haiti you had like 1 white person for 15 niggers
>>18725428Louisiana in 1860 was about 50/50 after a massive influx of Americans over decades. Louisiana before the purchase may as well have been a Caribbean country
>>18725432It's simply not true. Im speaking Spanish era Louisiana. I asked AI and it was 1 white person for 1.5 africans while contemporary Haiti was 1 white for 14 africans so my estimation was pretty close
>>18725442> I asked AI Holy brown
>>18725446>No argumentsYou lost buddy
>>18725389Based, no more brother warsBut the slander really picked up after France didn't want to back America in recent invasions of the middle east
