>kill countless civilians>rape countless women, men AND children>burn countless villagesI thought the Greeks were supposed to be the good guys and the Turks to be bad and barbaric?
Both sides were barbaric but the Turks both started the genocides and killed about ten times as many people despite the Greeks having a smaller population.The Greek genocide is one of the worst crimes against both humanity and history to ever happen. Not only were over a million noncombatants deliberately and systemically murdered, with millions more expelled, but one of the oldest contiguous ethnicites in the world was eradicated. By the time Muhammad started Islam the Anatolian Greeks had already been a thriving community for over a thousand years. Nearly 3,000 years of recorded history were wiped out in just 3 years because a handful of 20th century warlords really wanted a nation-state.
>>18723264Maybe the Greeks shouldn't have invaded Asia Minor?
>>18723264>because a handful of 20th century warlords really wanted a nation-state.Good thing Greece is an example of tolerant and multiethnic county lmao
>>18723277The Turks were literally genociding the Greeks for years before they invaded.
>>18723244Surprised? White people always exaggerate the other sides atrocities while obscuring or downplaying their own, which are often far worse or the first act of violence.
>>18723289And how many did they kill?
>>18723244I don't think we can pull up an ethnic map of Turkey and not all come to the conclusion that the Turks were evil.I get it, white man bad (but they're Greeks, lmao), but this being a 'history' board, one might think that the historical populations of Asia Minor being completely nuked out of existence would be unpalatable.
>>18723289I don't know anything about this.Was it a real genocide with killings or was it fake like white genocide where nobody is killed by an army?
>>18723341You could look at a map of Greece where 99% of people are Greek and explain where the minorities went?
>>18723277>>18723289Daily reminder that central power were the good guys.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noemvriana
>>18723244Is absolutely hilarious how reek vermin tried to pull an Israel 2.0 in Anatolia, failed miserably despite support from the entirety of judeochristian nations and scream and cry genocide when their own genocidal attempts failed and were forced to swin the aegeanLiterally crying out in pain as they strike you
>>18723534>scream and cry genocide when their own genocidal attempts failedThis is literally Arabs ever since 1948, try to genocide Jews and then cry when they get destroyed by them with the help of Allah
>>18723677Is absolutely hilarious how judeochristian rodents like you completely reverse facts and historyZionist baby killing vermin were retaliated by solely levantine nations AFTER the nakbaEven if that wasn't the case the Arabs had the moral grounds as fighting against settler colonialism is even a UN (which is jewish controlled) right
>>18723692Why did Nasser hire Nazis(expert genociders) to construct ballistic missiles to irradiate Israel?
>>18723692>UN (which is jewish controlled)Do you have any proof of this? This is /his/, not /pol/
>>18723744Shut up IDF bot. Take Hama drone and shoving up your end.
>>18723312About a million.>>18723360https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide> In July 1915 the Greek chargé d'affaires claimed that the deportations "can not be any other issue than an annihilation war against the Greek nation in Turkey and as measures hereof they have been implementing forced conversions to Islam, in [an] obvious aim to, that if after the end of the war there again would be a question of European intervention for the protection of the Christians, there will be as few of them left as possible."[83] According to George W. Rendel of the British Foreign Office, by 1918 "over 500,000 Greeks were deported of whom comparatively few survived".[84] In his memoirs, the United States ambassador to the Ottoman Empire between 1913 and 1916 wrote "Everywhere the Greeks were gathered in groups and, under the so-called protection of Turkish gendarmes, they were transported, the larger part on foot, into the interior. Just how many were scattered in this fashion is not definitely known, the estimates varying anywhere from 200,000 up to 1,000,000."[85]
>>18723906Population exchange is not genocide, little timmyReeks did the same to balkan muslims and worse but only one play the eternal victim
>>18723913>population exchange isn’t genocideI also agree that it’s time for Arabs to stop pretending Israel is genocidal. They ethnically cleansed their Jewish minority, and the Jews did the same thing.
>>18723244The Greek genocide was going on, when the white people tried to liberate Anatolia.Every Turk supported the genocide of the natives.
>>18723897>say stupid /pol/ conspiracy>get asked for proof>JEW JEW JEWAnti-semites are really low IQ
>>18723244Bruh the greeks raped men? Maybe i shouldnt be surprised
>>18723744Why did the US do literally the same thing?
>>18723264nationalism is a disease which did that kind of thing or worse pretty much everywhere it was tried, but /his/ isn't ready for that conversation
>>18723737>irradiate Israelthe missiles were for conventional bombardment, I don't believe Nasser had much in the way of a nuclear program. Was way too early in the history of nuclear weapons for a country like Egypt to have any hope of getting them.
>>18723244Turks aren't people.
>>18724698Judeochristian rodents aren't people and turks should have given them the moorish treatment in the 1500s
>>18724220>nativesTurks are indigenous Anatolians, it's reek rodents that were the invaders
Im a third party when it comes to this conflict but its beyond me how anyone could support the Greek side on this without morally depraved biases. Invading on a bullshit cause, kill a shit ton of civilians and when the war is lost burn down everything.I think if Greece wasnt a well liked western aligned country this would be spoken about in the same way as Russias invasion of Ukraine.
>>18724761Greeks=christian=white=always correctTurks=muslims=brown=always wrongAnyone can pull up a list of the wars turkey and greece have had since 1821 and you will notice the greeks were the aggressors literally every single time. But most people assume the turks are the ones who always started conflict.And now tensions are rising again
>>18724761>>18724767Reek vermin tried to pull an Israel in western anatolia, got their asses kicked and now screech genocide, typical judeochristian behavior
This whole idea that Turkey "stole" Greek land is ridiculous to begin with. Greeks arent native to Anatolia and colonized it. Turks most descend from said native Anatolians and if anything took their land back while larping as Mongol nomads. The state known as Greece also has zero legal or cultural claim to East Thrace or Constantinople.The entire pro greek argument doesnt make any sense and its on the same level of we wuzzery as literal third worlders do.If you go by right of conquest, the turks reconquered it. If you go by who was here first, the people genetically closer to ancient anatolians (turks) also win. You could make an argument for armenians in the armenian highlands but greeks were invaders in first place and got what they deserved. If anything their country still occupies land that was inhabitated by illyrians and thracians.
>>18724756As indigenous as the Paki rape gangs in Britain.
>>18724761>Invading on a bullshit causeTrying to liberate your core lands, capital, churches and millions of fellow people who are getting genocided for years after living for centuries under evil Islamic rule doesn't sound like a bullshit cause.
>>18724834I accept your defeat, rodent
>>18724842>liberate your core landsIt was never ""their land"", dog>>18724842>millions of fellow people who are getting genocided for yearsI truly wish this was the case, I truly wish the Ottomans completely wiped out every judeochristian vermin from the lands they ruled, then Turkiye toda would stretch all the way to the gulf of Venice>>18724842>evil Islamic ruleMuslim mistake was being too kind, too graceful to evil judeochristians actually, in the 1500s the Ottomans sultans should have wiped out every single judeochristian in the Balkans, copy the same methods the Spanish used against their Muslims
>>18724792>Greeks arent native to Anatolia and colonized it.Turks did that, while the white Anatolians assimilated into Greek culture due to its superiority.Can you show me cities that Greeks took over from Anatolians violently?
>>18724846What makes you think white people are dogs compared to Pakis?
>>18723244Can someone explain to me why Turkey chimped out so hard in 1914-1922? It’s genocides and persecutions every year through the young turks and such. What the hell happened.
>>18724857some blond jew was so disgusted by turks that he trooned out his ethnicity into "Europeans"
>>18724857They did not ""chimp out""", nearly two centuries off mass murders, rapes, executions, ethnic cleansing of innocent Muslims, including an entire nation being destroyed forever (Circassia) by judeochristian rodents drove them to a limit, Turks said enough is enough and gave the rodents 1/1000 of a taste of their own medicine
>>18724870Keep in mind that judeochristian evil barbarians did not stop trying to genocide Muslims all the way into the 90s when hundreds of thousands of innocent Bosnians and Albanians were exterminated by evil Serbs and evil Croats
In, fact, the general levantine genocide (not solely Palestinian) under Zionist is entirely a western judeochristian product, not solely jewish as many altrightsts like to wash their hands on thisWestern (judeo)christian belical, financial, diplomatical support to the zionist entity is the sole reason it is capable of its barbarism, the Nakba was in fact the result of Stalin smuggling top tier weaponry to zionists through czechoslovakia
>>18724756How come they've only been there for a handful of centuries after a campaign of conquest while Greeks have been there for millennia?
>>18724878You just said that population exchanges aren’t genocide. The Arabs forced their Jewish minorities out, the Jews forced their Arab minorities out. There is no Zionist genocide. Just a bunch of Arabs who can’t accept that a trade is a trade.
>>18724884Turks are Altaic speaking anatolians, just like Hungarians are Uralic speaking SlavsFunny how the indigenity of the latter is never questioned, another case of judeochristian hipocrisy>>18724896Israhell is literally a genocidal apartheid settler colony built on top of bodies and homes of Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese, not comparable
>>18724917Your comparison is faulty because Turkey didn't get the Trianon treatment, without that, you'd see almost exactly the same things said today about Hungary. Had Turks been confined to a single area in central Anatolia and the rest of the land returned to their rightful Greek, Georgian, Armenian, Assyrian, Kurdish and Arabic owners no one (except a minority of Turks) would have a problem with that arrangement. And that's without even going into how Turkishness as a concept is a recent invention merely a century old, before the early 20th it was not a thing and "Turkish" didn't mean what it means today.
>>18724953>rightful Greek, Georgian, Armenian, Assyrian, Kurdish and ArabicNONE of them were authoctonous Anatolians except for Turks who are literally altaic speaking nativesAnti-Turkish propaganda is foul judeochristian propaganda who are the biggest murderers and genociders of history, in some ways Ataturk was a hero who prevented his people from sharing the same fate as Palestinians.Reek vermin tried to pull an Israel in Anatolia and got swimming lessons
>>18724953Is absolutely hilarious too how you included Kurds and Arabs in your anti-Turkish butthurt comment as if you judeochristian rodents didn't hate them and wouldn't find pathetic and faulty excuses to murder themThe sole reason judeochristian rodents hate Turks so much is because they were the only Ummah nation to repel them
>>18724917>its okay when we ethnically cleanse our minorities, but they can’t return the favor It’s the exact same thing. The Arab states expelled their Jews, the Jewish state expelled some of its Arabs. What’s the difference? The answer is there’s no difference.
>>18723244They didn't go far enough.
>>18724975Yeah right, there were no indigenous Anatolians in Anatolia until Turks invaded. All those peoples that were living there before Turks don't belong to that land according to you. You really need to stop being a helot to Turks and Arabs, something so typical of your people by the way.>>18724977No matter how much I might dislike their backwardness and tribal mindset, they still have a right to live independently in their land without having to share it with their enemies. The same applies to other people like Siberians, Pygmies, the Khoisan, the Hazara, the Maori and Australian aboriginals, the Sahrawis or the natives of the Americas.
>>18724842>>18724849>>18724953>>18725041The greek/western inability to acknowledge ones own wrongdoings and still holding others to the ignored standards.Greeks were invaders to anatolia. Another people did what they did to the natives. They are not and never will be victims
>>18725061>Greeks were invaders to anatolia.They weren't, Greek presence in Anatolia started before the bronze age collapse, and after that a slow and gradual process of hellenisation took place. Something that can't be said about what happened after the battle of Manzikert, because the identities of the peoples of the peninsula were already too consolidated and were able to resist turkification.>Another people did what they did to the natives.Maybe you should apply this logic to yourself and stop crying about Al-Andalus, with the obvious difference that in this case it was not another people, but merely the natives expelling an invader (and no, the Carthaginians were also invaders that only wanted to exploit the mineral wealth of the peninsula to enrich themselves and pay war reparations to Rome after the first Punic war).
>>18724994The jewish expulsions happened after the nakba and many were outright orchestrated by mossad agents. Doesn't change the settler colonial illegitimate state of israhell>>18725041The indigenous anatolians ARE the turks you rodent, genetics prove it, what you advocate for is an israel in anatolia that thankfully turkish heroes repelled and made reek rodents like you take free swimming lessons>>18725061It is typical judeochristian behavior, they always have to be the victim while being the biggest atrocious perpetrators of history, racism and demonization of ummah nations is also praxis among the verminThis is why I wish the Ottomans were as ruthless as they claim to be back then
>>18725080Stop shitting up the board you retarded brown sack of shit
>>18725085I accept your concession, rodent
>>18725087Don't ever respond to me again, pedo worshipper
>>18725080>muslims are allowed to ethically cleanse their minorities, but the minorities can’t ethnically cleanse MuslimsGood, so you’re willing to admit that it was a population exchange. Why bother with it any further? You’re Pakistani. Your country is the result of a partition and population exchange.
>>18725090>pedo worshipperI don't worship a perverted nailed zionist kike who liked diddling kids at public gardens>>18725093I didn't know eastern european colonial vermin who lived at bogs in poland lithuania and ukraine were minorities in muslim nations
>>18725099On top of that the kike was nailed alongside two other pedos, we all know why romans executed the creep
>>18725099Do as you're told, dog. Don't make me repeat myself
>>18725080You can't claim genetic continuity for Turks and deny it to others who have an equivalent claim, plus Anatolians in a geographic sense were not a genetically pure population, and this works against your argument.
>>18725080>The indigenous anatolians ARE the turksThere's no reason for anyone to believe this, unless they are Turkish themselves.How can a people who came ~900 years ago be "more" indigenous than Armenians, Cappadocian Greeks, etc.?Quite literally impossible. Even your language is further removed from Anatolian languages, lmao. Can't tell if you're actually a Turk or just meme-ing.
>>18725099You JUST >>18725080 cited Jewish expulsions. Ffs. Just get it over with. We all know you’re fine with Muslims brutalizing nonbelievers. Why bother with the pretense?
>>18725099Why are you insulting a prophet of Islam? And moreover, depicting him in an image? Do you want to go to hell?
>>18724875>when hundreds of thousands of innocent Bosnians and Albanians were exterminated by evil Serbs and evil CroatsA million mudslime Bosniaks were taken care of by Croatia in the 5 years of the war you stupid inbred brown subhuman
>>18725099>I don't worship a perverted nailed zionist kike who liked diddling kidsThat's literally your prophet doe?
>>18725080>>18725099>>18725087>>18725101When is the Hamas counter-offensive gonna happen?
>>18725101>>18725103>>18725104>>18725106>>18725115>>18725121LMFAO at the huge amount of copium of judeochristian and even jeet rodents, I absolutely bodied you freaks
>>18725115Expulsions happened in retaliation the nakba but not on the scale judeochristian rodents claim, most left on their own on thr promise of gibs by their european jewish overlords and many were terrorized to leave by literal mossad false flag attacksStill one does not equate to the other
>>18725106Anatolia became Turkish because the natives collaborated and turkified themselves against the shitantine oppressors, most Turks are altaic speaking Anatolians, it is absolutely hilarious to see reek and even armenoid vermin claiming land all the way to Ankara and KonyaAnd Turks gave judeochristians a bit of a taste of the medicine they have Muslims and other brutalized peoples
>>18725133The transvestite was the nailed kike who wore dress and long hair as well the pedo himself who liked diddling children at gethsemane
>>18725118The foul interpretation of Isa in judeochristian scathology has nothing to do with the truthful scripturesIn reality Isa (PBUH) was a pious man who rejected jewish corruption and died for it, the judeochristian """Jesus""" is exactly as I described, it is not a sin to mock the falsehood and corruption of the wicked
>>18725153>truthful scripturesLol, yeah stuff that was written centuries after the events described in it.
>>18725153Why does Allah support Jews killing Palestinian babies?
>>18725142>not a single refutation
Eurasians seething about Europeans raping them is always entertaining. 2,000 years of you mongrels raping mongrels to the point where both have 100+ male lineages. Half of whom are outside the region. Thousands of years after your supposed "enlightenment age", and rabbinic religion still defines both of your cultures. You can't celebrate Turkishness without Islam, you can't celebrate Spanishness from Catholicism. Your perpetual seething about how the ebil colonizerzzz across the street raped your grand aunt is probably the only thing keeping you from suck starting a shotgun.China won
>>18725327Who?
>>18725290What is there to refute, jeet? Pathetic insults and shit tier zionist rage bait? Oh and we kicked your ass last time and now have a defensive fact with our Turkish Ahki. Try anything funny and the Mughals will come back :)
>>18725333>we kicked your ass saarLol, lmao, DPB will continue because Allah is pro-Israel
>>18723244Turkish heroes stopped reek rodents from creating israel 2.0 in anatolia
>>18725340You will never be part of judeochristian team saaarYou will always be a fecaloid saaar
>>18725344>You will always be a fecaloid saaarYou are literally a jeet retard lmao, you're just a slave dog to Arabs like a good little cuck
>>18723244Greeks, Turks and Balkan Slavs all have basically the same mindset. Even more so back then. This idea that the Turks are Asiatic barbarians but Greeks are civilized Europeans is just unbelievably retarded. In the early 20th century, Western liberal values had made basically zero impact on the mindset of the average Greek.
>>18725394Pakistani are closer to Iranians and Turks culturally and ethnically than to DESIS
>>18725415You're genetically still Desis, sorry Pakisissy, you will always been seen as a jeet by fellow Muslims
>>18725415I sometimes can't tell if you're a troll or genuinely muslim (i.e. retarded). You are literally a feces-on-street jeet, just like the zutts that rode mohammad all night long
>>18725144>but no, really, when we do it, it’s fine!Why are you still carrying on with the LARP? You can just cut to the chase. We know you’re fine with ethnic cleansing as long as muzzies are the ones doing it. Otherwise it’s still just a population exchange.
>>18723244History of an Post-Ottoman state>Start Race war>Win>Establish Ethno-state with your people scattered all the way to the other end of the empire in kakakoy>You now have to invade and win every race war all the way to kakakoy>there are 12 other ethnostates doing the same>The ottomans themselves get more racist and violent every time this happens100 years later>Be Greek/armenian after the ensuing shitstorm>After a fuckhuge losses in the last race war the turks are openly hanging anyone who says the word indepence to the point theres a plaza in syria for it>Your nation uses support WW1 Entente powers to start the greatest race war to have ever been started in the ottoman empire >Russia loses the war and subsequently the armenians lose their race war against said ottomans>Entente wins but just barely>They refuse to actually push where there is resistance>The ottomans are openly resisting in anatolia>Your ethnostate has to establish generalplan ost all the way to kakakoy otherwise it literally has no reason to exist beyond inertia>With Entente tanks in Constantinople your people land an army to proceedYou get two choices, Most pick the second:>You get the choice of being an undesirable in a remnant state comprised almost entirely of turks>You get the choice of supporting the advancing greek army>The Greek army wins zero decisive victories>The turks have one chance of massive fuckoff offensive to turn this entire trend around it's head for the first time since your greatx8 grandparents time>They pull it off>Consequences of inititiating and then proceeding to lose a race war ensue>You barely survive>The greek Prime minister enacts population exchange and the turks agree>You, a turkish speaking karamanli and the remains of your communities are herded onto a boat>you are now a greek citizen living in athens
>>18723341>but this being a 'history' boardyou're wrong in your assumption, as this is a 'brown zoomers larp as zealots for the world religions' board
Greeks are lucky they chose to LARP as ancient greeks and automatically get western goodwill.The amount of war crimes and ethnic cleansing theyve done to their neighbours (not just turks) is massive and they get to play victim about it too. Craziest part is their ancient greek claim is also straight up wrong and a result of an artificially created national identity, they larp almoat as hard as turks
>>18726111Reek vermin got the crying out in pain while striking tactics pretty good from their jewish buddies
>>18726123>ACK
>>18726114>Italians are invaders who stole Greek land.>Slavs are invaders who stole Greek land.We will help you get the land back from Turks, Arabs and Albanians.Deal?
>>18726126>Kike demon makes fun of dead children while playing victim out of 4chanTruly moustache man did nothing wrong
>>18726146I truly wish you judeochristian rodents tried anything funny against our turkish ahkiOur ahki would make sure to make Gaza look like paradise in comparison to AthensSeriousky just give the Turks ANY excuse
>>18726331Turks are too busy getting replaced by Kurds and Arabs, but it's ok since they're Muslim too lmao
>>18723913>of whom comparatively few survived
>>18726355They are getting one shotted by demographics just as if not more. The Kurds especially have abused the fuck out of western ''help'' and Turkish democracy but lack the elites and institutions to not get ass raped the moment they lose their 20 yo young male population which already consists of mostly inbred retards. The solution processes have produced the single most racist and violent generation of Turkish chuds since a long while.
