When the fuck did they stop calling them the Iroquois? Is this some gay post-Floyd decolonizing language bullshit?
>>18724130They've always called themselves that, as for when Wikipedia decided to change the name of the article to reflect that, I don't know, maybe check the edit history
>>18724130>HOH-din-oh-SHOH-neewhore-dino Shonie?
>>18724146>They've always called themselves thatAu contraire, mon'ami. It's a word that ze French kind of forced upon them.There was no such thing as an ethnonym encompassing the whole thing.If you want words they actually called themselves, just take up one of those languages. Like the Mohawks call themselves Kanienʼkehá꞉ka.Haudenosaunee is a result of the Franco-Irish priests pestering the Onondaga? for a collective ethnonym. It is one of SEVERAL they came up with to describe themselves in opposition to the settlers.It's kind of retarded. Basically a distant cousin of the Aryan spiel which was about looking for and trying to prove all the Indo-Europeans called themselves Aryans at some point when you know Slavs almost universally call themselves Slavs, the Germanic folks some form of Dutch, others have fuck-all, etc.Well imagine that instead of Arya, they'd find that pre-Sanskrit texts talk about a word that translates to "Us Horsefuckers" because of them being the horse nomads. And then you'd say that all Indo-Europeans are called "Us Horsefuckers" with the Russians calling themselves "My loshadyoyebi", Germans calling themselves "Wir Pferdefickeren", etc. and they'd have the OG pre-Sanskrit spelled in a hybrid of Arabic and Hebrew on their passports. That's how Haudenosaunee works in practice.Haudenosaunee is a distantly related cousin meaning "Us longhouse-builders" so when you find a Mohawk dude who buys into it, they say "Us longhouse-builders" in Mohawk which comes out as Rotinonshión:ni (Ro-di-nǫ-s-hi-ǫǫ-ni). Rinse and repeat for other Iroquoian languages.Obviously if they like it that way, who is to tell them they can't accept the word in a language they by and large don't understand or speak, anyway. But it's utterly retarded to say "ACKHSHUALLY They always called themselves that", because that's really just plain bullshit.
>>18724130I just trace it on Wikipedia RNIt was done by the user Feeglgeef on the 30th April 2026 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Haudenosaunee&oldid=1351774039
