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Why didn't Yahweh stop Jephthah like he stopped Abraham?
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>>18725092
God didn't command this and lying to the living God is very bad.
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>>18725092
To learn his lesson to not promise something you don't know if you can keep. A lesson I'm currently learning the hard way.
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>>18725092
Probably because that story comes from a pre-Abrahamic tradition when children were still sacrificed to Yahweh as "molech offerings". There's actually no such thing as a diety called "Molech". It's a mistranslation. "molech" was a type of burnt offering, and the Torah established laws against that practice.

The story of Abraham makes much more sense when placed in a context where children were regularly sacrificed to Yahweh. The author's message is that Yahweh doesn't need human sacrifice anymore; he needs devotion and devotion to him alone. That's what circumcision symbolizes. Slaves had their genitals mutilated either by castration or circumcision. Mutilated genitals were the standard mark of a slave. That's why Abraham randomly starts mutilating penises like a complete schizophrenic. It is unexplainable nonsense without the context of slavery and its associated genital mutilation. Circumcision marks you as a slave to Yahweh.

The story of Abraham is best understood as a religious campaign against child sacrifices to Yahweh. Human sacrifice is replaced by something very serious, painful, and traumatizing because it's difficult to convince retards to just stop altogether. They need a schizophrenic replacement practice.
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>>18725129
Thank you for the actual answer
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>>18725129
You're mostly correct but I'd quibble on the meaning of circumcision. I'm not aware of any strong evidence of circumcision as a mark of slavery. Marks of slavery were typically very visible, so cutting off the foreskin wouldn't make sense. Yes, people were much more comfortable with nudity in the Bronze Age, but they still weren't walking around dick out all the time.

I think circumcision was more likely a mark of high status. That was certainly the case for the Egyptians, who practiced circumcision among their elite and priestly castes. I think the early Israelites almost certainly borrowed it from this context.

And the chronology is somewhat unclear. I think the Book of Judges is largely held to have taken place after the story of Abraham, so I would argue that the sacrifice of Jephthah instead represents the continuing influence of Canaanite practice on early Judaism. But certainly, you're right that it was also a continuation of an earlier practice.
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>>18725129
I don't think circumcision was chosen for any reason having to do with slavery. It's chosen because it requires shedding blood, a permanent physical change in a person, and represents cleanliness and mastery over the reproductive organ (and its urges). Pretty logical as a sign of a having a covenant with God.
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>>18725092
When I read this in the Bible, I went through the emotions of oh my God! Why!?, to that this must be according to keep his word and as a reference to Jesus Christ and why you should forgive sin. To the other side of this and realizing the Bible didn’t say exclusively he kills her nor does it say she lived a life of celibacy like the internet says after you look it up that there is a debate whether it was this extreme or the other extreme. It says she knew no man. So maybe she did knew the Lord and therefore her life was like Mary’s and she gave birth to someone that only the Lord kept secret. Only God knows and because of how sinful Japhtheh was in making a vow that was not of God, it was just his own sinful gamble with fate, that He also gave to the Lord, whether she lived or died she belonged to the Lord and that means she is with Jesus wherever she went. It also means that since his daughter ran out with a tambourine, that his words were religion without faith. It was simply a really scary oath he made, and God still used it for the good. It means that verse that says if you practice religion and prophecy and works but have not any love, then it’s all a bunch of shit like drums and a tambourine making a bunch of noise. It becomes a noisy gong and loud clanging cymbals. Nobody wants to hear it. These were God’s People doing some of the most worse things on earth in their sins, like King David killing Uzziah to have sex with his wife who was naked outside his window with water streaming down in the moonlight (obviously, right? You can imagine) and hide that she got pregnant. Or all the incest and crazy debauchery they did as God’s people also that isn’t even really appealing like David and Bathsheba. Nathan the prophet came and told David “David, since you are (a son of God through Christ Jesus before he would be born as the savior, making you a Christian in the future) God’s Anointed and Chosen as King of Israel, you could have just
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>>18725120
What lesson did his daughter learn?
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>>18725158
What will have to happen to all of you before you learn your lesson that nonsense begets nonsense?
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>>18725166
What I got out of the story is that if you don't start thinking for yourselves, you will all end up like the daughter.
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…you could have just asked and prayed to the Lord and received Bathsheba without sin, IF you needed much more.

Which is still true for Christians today and why it’s stupid for people on these boards to claim christians are a Jew for keeping the old testament attached to the kjv bible all 66 books. We use it because it still says yes we may even have multiple wives and children and Jesus Christ’s blood can pay the price of ALL of it. However, only one wife to one man is the ultimate and absolute end. You will be destroyed till this happens and settles for a Christian to be blameless of one wife. Mine is the woman with the same name as me which I asked God for in my heart at six years old. Then the Holy Spirit spoke to me through her sister who was the same age as me, and used her to say the promise to marry me “I’m going to marry you!… maybe my sister (with the same name as you)…” I waited 33 years and went across the street after growing up with them on my back porch for several years and asked her to marry me on her front door. It was the one I asked God for and not the oldest sister who said it. She said she would marry me instead. I prayed and asked God and He said yes. I don’t need another receipt to know this one is valid and that whether it is her or the other one, I received one woman to one man marrying me as my wife and it was the one of faith, not of sight. Jesus also said that what is grown in humility will grow in power. My promise at six years old was in humility and faith. It then was grown as by sight and it was the one who is my divine twin by convergence. Satan is now trying to accuse me of having sinned in this, but I am blameless and faithful.
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>>18725166
>What lesson did his daughter learn?
I'll ask her when I die and go to Abraham's bosom and find her chilling there with the patriarchs awaiting the resurrection.

Death may be scary to you but not to God.
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>>18725178
Christian means believer in Christ, the anointed one, it means the Savior from being condemned by God. If you don’t have time to be saved and believe the Word and Will of God, from Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, meaning the only way to Heaven, the only way to eternal life, the only way out of eternal hell and who is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, suit yourself. As for me and my house we shall serve the Lord as Joshua said. To serve the Lord is to believe on his name and blood by grace through faith.
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I.e. that means even if you aren’t a Christian, God is still going to do these things to you and your marriage bed (whether it is burned and killed with fire or makes it successful if you turn to Him only) . So you DO absolutely have time. It’s all you have time for, in fact. And I am victoriously married to my wife and have her despite by sight it appears Satan has won and taken her.
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>>18725202
Death isn't scary to me at all, jackass. That is why I don't need to make up a bunch of stories to how death is not death, because I understand that life is only, and is only known to me, from life, and when I am Dead I will not know I am dead, because I won't be alive to know it. See how easy that is?

However, while I am here, it is life with people like YOU that scares me! How am I supposed to trust that you won't do something stupid, like vote for Republicans, all because of your made up story you didn't have to make?

See the problem is one of making the problems with your bad solutions. You are confused, so that scares you, and so you cling to stupid stories, made up by people who want to trick you into doing shit for their benefit. But that stupid story then demands you do stupid things you would not do, if not for the stupid story, and all because you were confused, but here's the real kicker -- you are confused because of all the stupid things other people do because of the stupid stories!

See? We are right back to the start of our circle. And all you have to do is break the cycle of stupid by not making the stupid stories to begin with.
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>>18725238
And that is why I think this story is about the Daughter. This story tells me that the daughter should have run.... run like the wind away from that crazy assed society. Seeing the outcome, she would have been better off in the wilderness.

Because, in this story, there was no god that killed her, just some crazy fucking parent who murdered her, and his reasons did not even need to be stated, except as a lesson in who to avoid.
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>>18725238
>jackass
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