>painting of a great historical battle>painted in 18XXWhy is this always the case?
>>18732836In this one case because Tours wasn't a great historical battle but is largely the product of 19th century nationalism.
people couldn't paint before the 1800s
>>18732839cuck
>>18732850How does that makes me a cuck? It's simply the truth and you're unironically retarded if you think that the Muslims were planning to conquer all of France and the West(TM) when they barely had a presence in most of the northern half of the Iberian peninsula to begin with. It was a raiding party for loot and slaves and little more.
>>18732839It gave the Karolingians the legitimacy to become monarchs in their own right. It empowered Frankia, helping enable them to break Moorish control over Septimanian foothold and ability to ever again launch deep raids into France. Saying it was inconsequential is bizarre modern contrarianism.
>>18732881I didn't say it was inconsequential, it's just not "LE EPIC BATTLE THAT SAVED LE WEST FROM THE MUSLIM ALQUAEDA ISIS SAVAGES" that a lot of people make it out to be. Btw you could largely apply the same reasoning to the Reconquista, which is another product of 19th century nationalism.
>>18732881>ability to ever again launch deep raids into FranceBtw this is false, the saracens would continue to raze towns, launch raids, take slaves and even occupy a small part of southern France centuries after Tours happened
>>18732836>>painting of a great historical battle>>painted in 18XX>Why is this always the case?
>>18732923Admiral Hohenlohe-Neuenstein: "In my opinion, it seems that God is Spanish to work so great a miracle for them. Five thousand Spaniards who were also five thousand soldiers and five thousand devils".
>>18732905>small part of southern France centuries after Tours happenedSeptimania was retaken 30 years after tours.
>>18732964Spain lost.
>>18732836Romantic nationalism was originated during that time. And with it emerged a desire to paint important events in a nation's history. As opposed to previous forms of history painting that contented themselves with painting renowned scenes from the classics, or the bible.>>18732969Fraxinetum is not part of Septimania. I think he was referring to that.
>>18732974>Spain lost.Nah, Spain simply got tired of it and that's why it agreed to negotiate. That's what happens when you're fighting simultaneously against England, France, the Ottoman Empire, the Dutch, Portugal, Sweden, Denmark... It has to end at some point.
>>18733000>t.
>>18732986>Fraxinetum is not part of Septimania. I think he was referring to that.Yes, precisely.
>>18732923>>18732964Good counter example, but that's the exception, not the rule. I know a lot of fine art by Don Troiani himself. And yet, they prove my point, that their paintings are held in high regard because there are barely any paintings like them today.Either way, I dare you to find a painting that depicts the Roman Empire, Ancient Greece, or Medieval Europe, and is synonymous with those historical periods.
>>18733015Another iconic painting by the same painter.
>>18733015>>18733030Those have no reason to look this good.
>>18733000Cope Juan
>>18733015>>18733030VGH, Le art pompier...
>>18733007>>18733053The Dutch owe their independence to France and to a much lesser extent the English but certainly not themselves.Before the French declared war on Spain they had a comical ratio of one battle won for 10 lost
>>18733120Camarero! Camarero! Paella y pronto!
>>18733132Well Spain has a good cuisine which is reputed to be among the very best in the world and people from all over the world fly here to have a chance to experiment it, unlike the garbage that people in England and Holland eat. Not so sure why you're trying to depict that as something bad though.
>>18733120The Dutch won because God was with them.
