Its fucking ridiculous and stupid to imply that humans (who literally are made of dirt) could corrupt the perfect gods creation, as if god isn't in full control. God just didn't see the fall coming, there's nothing he could have done those pesky humans! Give me a fucking break
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>>18737238Satan is God's gift same way flowers or puppies are God's gift.Flowers give us a way to enjoy nature.Satans temptations/adversity give us a way to have the joy of virtue - the joy of exhibiting bravery, moderation, kindness, etc.That's why all this business with the fall and free will was done - God made an all-good creation; virtue is good; virtue requires adversity to exist; Satan/fall provide that adversity - a gift that allows us to enjoy exercising virtue.
>>18737780If God can't give us free will without giving us the ability to do evil, then he's not omnipotent
>>18737780So there's no virtue in heaven.>inb4 people in heaven already overcame adversityThe amount of adversity different people had to overcome is wildly different. God could've created a world where everyone faces only as much adversity as the person in our world who got to heaven while facing the least amount of adversity out of any heaven-bound people.Idk what it is with theodicies, they're some of the flimsiest arguments I come across.
>>18737238He did see it coming. We still corrupted it.
>>18737875>he can therefore he shouldDoes not follow. And if you don't think he should, your objection disappears.
