>>18747096
I'd estimate roughly 40-50% of waking atheist activity can be categorized as an attempt to forget that God exists and that Jesus is going to come back to earth one day. Think about all the hours they spend on drugs, perverted sex, meditation, escapism, and so forth. In the back of their mind they know they are going to Hell so they have to do whatever they can to numb it out.

>>18747096
So "Joshua" was Moses' assistant in the Hebrew Bible, during the Roman period in Judea, a bunch of scholars re-appropriated Jewsish messiahnism by borrowing Joshua, which the Romans rendered as "Jesus". Hope that helps!

>>18747096
This is literally a /pol/ or maybe even /b/ tier post. Do you have any empirical proof that the resurrection happened?

>>18747096
If an atheist told you that a random Jew came back from the dead for no apparent reason, you'd think they were insane. Your critical thinking skills are actively being handicapped by an identity centered on a 2,000 year old book

>>18747104
>2 more weeks and then Jesus will be back!

>>18747110
uh-oh, it just so happens that everything else in the book happens to be true and that the prophecies of the OT which has been verified to have been written before Christ's arrival happen to be true. surely THIS part of Christ being divine is the one thing wrong. it's delusional, plainly. has to be this >>18747104

>>18747114
Snakes can't talk bro, sorry you had to find out this way

>>18747118
>blah blah blah I hate Jesus
Cool, cool. So what's your drug of choice?

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How do Grinches explain all the presents left under the Christmas tree every year? Take that Santa deniers!

>>18747109
>Do you have any empirical proof that the resurrection happened?
No, I have the King James Bible.

>>18747104
>>18747096
>>18747114

Enjoy Irkalla

>>18747114
>everything else in the book happens to be true
Citation for the temple curtain ripping itself in half?

>>18747232
>Citation for the temple curtain ripping itself in half?
Matthe 27:51. King James.

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>>18747240

>>18747248
>Asks for citation
>Receives it
>Immediately shits its pants
How very.

The magic Jew came back to life and then floated up through the clouds, then zombies started walking around... I mean the magic Jew book says so, and that it was DESTINED to happen what's there to doubt? Let me break this down. The magic Jew book prophesied that another magic Jew would come back to life and then.. sure enough if you read later in the book he does come to life! Incredible!

>>18747362
>I literally can't stop obsessing over Jews

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Atheist ignore the science: every human culture has a religion as the core ideology that sets social expectations and values for that society. Religion evolved with man, it's in our genetics. Genetics and religion are intertwined: religion puts selection pressures on the genetics and the behavioral genetics changes the religion's core belief. Thus, religion literally shapes the race and visa versa.

ergo, religion is a human need for a working society.
Atheist tend to be social misfits, they have their belief because of cognitive bias e.g. I want to do things that are against the religious belief, so they conclude that societies religion must be wrong and try and destroy it.

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Now among the world's religions, Christianity has provided the basis of a great deal of accomplishment that enabled most of humanity to expand in numbers that never before existed. Christianity is a beneficial religion to those who have the genetics to support it.
Atheist tend to be antisocial pathological creatures, I'm afraid.

>>18747386
>every human culture has a religion as the core ideology that sets social expectations and values for that society
China

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Paradoxically, Christianity like many other religions in the world developed a defensive mechanism to cultural destruction in the social exclusion of atheist and heretics. Vocal non believers were removed from the population so they could not spread doubt and undermined the society's core values. We see now from current events and the fall of western society that came with the fall of the cultures core religion that it was an essential core value. Removing heretics and atheist who assaulted the cultural values preserves the culture and the people of that culture i.e. kept the human birth rates western culture high enough to survive the black death. Without religion, the societies birth rates fell to extinction levels. Atheist therefore, murdered the entirety western peoples.

>>18747395
Core regions of the various Chinese people are Buddhism, Taoism (Daoism), Confucianism, and Chinese folk religion

>>18747400
It is important to note that the Chinese ideologies, religions, produced a stable society that lasted over 3000 years. It also inhibited any human accomplishment to advance their society. This is in contrast with Western Christianity.

>>18747404
>stable society that lasted over 3000 years.
very stable, specially for the part that it broke like 20 times and reunited 21.

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>>18747407
And what is your point? The culture and peoples persisted.
To argue against religion is to argue against everything that it means to be human.

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Consider the human existence without region. Atheists are prone to suicide. Humans are not able to exist without religion.

>>18747419
Every single human being is born an atheist anon. There is no evidence for religiosity before the age where persistent memory formation begins

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>every ancient civilization practiced cannibalism and never bathed, check mate atheists!
lmao, Christards don't know what "Appeal to Tradition" fallacies are

The question then is not that religion should exist for that is just asking should humanity exist.
The question is which religion and associated culture should prove most beneficial and a fit with the population genetics.
Hands down, for the last 2000 years, that has proven to be Christianity for the Caucasian peoples, Hindu for the Indians, etc.
Atheists are best considered to be dangerous pathogens within a society, and should be exorcised for the preservation of the culture and its peoples.

>>18747429
What exactly has Hinduism offered the Indians? How exactly do you think Islam has been good for Arabs?

>>18747421
Yes. And what's your point? Point to a society that has no religion, or one where human babies can become functional adults on their own.
You're not making logial arguments.
Besides, enough of them are born with the genetics to embrace a religion.
And people without religion tend to invent one. "I'm saving the world and doing good" they believe, irrationally, by adapting the religion of environmentalism, of believing in protecting criminals, etc.

>>18747433
I could point out a few but then you'd probably start seething about Trannies

>>18747430
Your ethnocentrism is not a counter argument to the fact that religion is pan human and Hinduism is a major religion with a billion believers. Like all ideologies, it sets the definition of what is good and bad within their society.

>>18747438
Okay but how exactly has Hinduism helped India not become one of the poorest shitholes on Earth?

>>18747436
I submit to the solid, irrefutable evidence you have in your back pocket, and take it on faith that it's a refutation of my argument.
I also confess your prophesy and telepathy is true, and I am right now "seething about trannies"
Your intellect and psychic powers are indeed impressive in your own mind.
You won. You may now retire from this discussion and proclaim your victory over Anthropology.

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>>18747446
Okay, your arguments also just boil down to "morality is relative" and I suspect you aren't as smart as you think you are. Bro really thought he was cooking with these arguments lmao

>>18747442
Ethnocentrism is not an argument against another culture. Your very evaluation of the culture as a "shit hole" is based on the values of western culture.
What your asking me to do is justify per your western values the culture of the Hindu Indians.

I will try and make it simple: The West is going extinct, the Hindu population is over a billion. Rather than appeal to cultural values, I appeal to evolution itself.

>>18747096
Never happened.

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>>18747447
>I suspect you aren't as smart as you think you are.
Again, I am awed and cowed by your psychic insights and intellectual superiority.
Why you keep engaging with me given your cognitive dissonance and trashing about wildly with alternative explanations for your lack of understanding culture by noting I'm not as smart as you truly honors me.
You've won. You can retire from this discussion and gloat about your superiority over the common peoples.

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They don't. They avoid the subject, like the jews do

>how do athiests explain an event that only people in my religion believe in
some way you explain some retarded story found in some pajeet religion, it didn't happen

>>18747461
Many religions have a "far fetched" feature. This is so that they can identify who is or who isn't a member of the society. Something so unusual and incredible that an outsider would never guess. It's serves as a passcode and identifies the outsider who cannot be trusted if they don't know the pass code.
Again, religion defines good and evil within the culture. Christians should never trust anyone who doesn't believe in the resurrection and should expel the outsider from society.
Sort of like how the Japanese did with the Christians themselves, btw.

so, where are we at?
Are the atheist against all religions? That would be against humanity itself, as it is essential to our social nature.
Or are the atheist just against Christianity?

>>18747472
Fully agree. However I will go a step further than you (call me a zealot if you want, I know I am not) and proclaim that Jesus Christ is God Incarnate. I read both OT and NT, but I take Christ's Word as the final authority on everything.

>>18747481
They are mostly against Christianity. An honest atheist (a rare breed) would be against all spirituality, but e-atheists are jews/jeets/troons who are driven not just by a hate of Christ but first and foremost by a hate of what He represents, meaning His People (Christians) amd all that is Good

>>18747096
Jesus never existed, he is a mythical figure no more real than Hercules. Half of the details of his life are copied from existing pagan myths about Dionysus, Osiris, and Tammuz. Even the name Christus was initially a title of Serapis
>>18747114
None of the Bible is true, it’s all schizophrenic nonsense

>>18747496
I agree. The religion works and is true. Which is remarkable. How did they know so much about human nature 2000 years ago, things that science is just learning today.
>>18747500
Most Atheist do seem to have a fixation on just Christians.
>>18747512
Doesn't matter if Jesus existed. The religion works. Pretty sure Jesus did exist, however. That there is a God, a creation, is evidenced by the creation of the universe (the universe has a supernatural origin) and my soul that cannot be detected by any known means of this world. Now it's just a matter of finding out what the creator wants me to believe. Christianity seems the best fit for me, so I believe it entirely. We humans were made for religious belief.
Those who share your opinion should be, according to the Christian religion, be shunned and ignored. See, for example the Epistle of Jude.
You are, according to the religion, a blasphemer and don't belong in a Christian society.

>>18747632
Your religion is false and you will be reincarnated as a cockroach

>>18747122
So you have a book written by some people a few centuries ago that you think is an accurate translation of an earlier book, that was a translation of an even earlier book which was supposedly written by God. You don’t see a problem with taking this literally?

>>18747392
The great accomplishments you talk about are the result of the scientific revolution which logically lead to atheism, hence why wealth, intelligence and education are all corrolated with atheism while the most christians countries on Earth are also the brownest.

>>18747657
The Latin vulgate is one of two Bibles given to use by God the Holy Sprit at the 2nd council of rome, in about the late 2nd or third Century. The other being the Greek bible.
These true bibles are almost 2000 years old and are the only Bibles in the Christian church. Everything else is a translation. How can hundreds of different translations that contradict each other all be from God? They can't.
>>18747668
Reminder that the Big Bang itself was discovered by a Catholic priest. The universe is God's creation, on par with our Bible and the true Popes speaking from the chair of Saint Peter. The one true Christian church has no problem with God's creation.
>but muh Galileo.
Not from the chair of Saint Peter.

>>18747688
>the Big Bang itself was discovered by a Catholic priest
and the Earth being circumference was discovered by a Greek polytheist, utherly irrelevent. Most scientist today are atheist.

>>18747644
>jeet chimes in
Lord Indra ordered his White followers to exterminate the shitskins ;-)
I am only paraphrasing (your) holy scripture

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>>18747096
>>18747104
>>18747114
>>18747122
Your answer?

Utilitarian justifications for religion are hilarious
>Bro, cmon bro, you gotta believe in our religion because it creates a cohesive society. Man it doesn't matter if it's not real, you gotta pretend to believe for social friction to be reduced.

>>18747096
Never happened. Jesus died on Friday at 3PM, the Sabbath would start at 6PM. According to Jewish tradition, certain rites had to be performed, but they didn't have time for it. So, they put Jesus's body into the cave to perform the rites later. They couldn't perform the rites on the Sabbath, so the women went to do it on Sunday. Only to see no body. The disciples (presumably, including Peter) stole it during the Sabbath.

>>18747367
You worship the king of the Jews tho?

>>18747104
the apostles thought that jesus was coming back during their lifetimes
he didn't
literally every christian since thought the same
he didn't
they thought he was going to come back 100 years after his death, then it was 200, 500, 1000, 2000
still hasn't come back

sometimes people look at modern doomsday cults
the promised day comes and goes and the cult leaders come up with some cope and set a new date
most people in those cults keep following them after this
people ask, "how can these cult members be so gullible? every time the supposed date of the end of the world comes without the world ending, they just fall for it again when they're given a new date. why don't they realize it's never going to happen?"

christians have been falling for it for over 2,000 years

>>18747481
Atheists don't believe in any religion, why would they only be against Christianity?

>>18747386
>religion is false but it's necessary as a utilitarian tool for tardwrangling the underclass
I can get behind that.
t. fedora

>>18747872
You would more specifically be known as a "Christian Atheist"

>>18747872
>>18747876
We've had those since at least classical athens.

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>>18747104
>Think about all the hours they spend on drugs, perverted sex, meditation, escapism, and so forth
All that stuff can be done devotionally and in the spirit of exploration, in which case it promotes spiritual growth: it's the left-hand path and it works. Except meditation, that's used by left and right hand seekers. "Prayer" etc.

Righties are terrified of practices they don't understand, and calumniate them.

>>18748451
>blah blah blah I hate Jesus and love masturbation

>>18747870
Good question.
The answer seems to be they are driven by cognitive dissonance into rejecting Christianity because they don't like the faith's teachings, and have confused "not Christian" with "atheists".

>>18747697
The point was that the Christian church has no objections to the sciences of cosmology an evolution, but are frequently confused with having objections in those fields because of the rantings of Protestants that view what they claim is the bible in a literal context.
Thus, the claim that scientific inquiry lead to atheism is refuted.

>>18748462
You bore me

>>18747386
>every human culture has a religion as the core ideology that sets social expectations and values for that society.
No, that's not really how things work. Every culture has norms and every culture has weird superstitious beliefs that we call religious and usually the two are related to each other (and other things) but not always in a way that makes religion the master or the grounding of all norms.

>>18747721
semantic fallacy.
The bible does not say "jew". The concept of "Jew" to mean the peoples of the Talmud came about in the 8th century, after and in reaction to Islam. Islam killed pagans but allowed people "of the book" to exist.
Since Jew means people of the Talmud, and the Judeans would have killed the Pharisees had they known that they still kept the oral tradition of the Talmud, it is clear that: the Talmudist are not Judeans. They named themselves "Jew" in 1250 AD. It is part of the faith that Talmudist are not Judeans.
The "Jesus was a Jew" meme is false, as Jesus was a Judean, their legit heir to the throne of Judea, and Jesus denounced the Talmudist aka "Jews" as not judans but liars. This is repeated often to just annoy people and make them angry. It's a simple minded bait to end the discussion and replace it with a non-productive verbal "fight"

>>18748482
Great, get off my board.

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>>18748493
Ready to admit you're wrong? Or are you going to double down?

>>18747872
what do you mean by "false"?
Religion works. A religion that doesn't work goes extinct. There's no "false genes" just as there are no "false religions". They survive and propagate or they don't.
When I was doing engineering work I had to release work orders to the technicians building the project. I wrote what they had to do. I didn't explain why I designed it that way, just do this.
It's very similar to what Christ said that we should go to him as Children. Just do it; these are the rules we should follow. It's not in our capacity to question the designer or say he was wrong.

tl:dr there is no false, just you don't understand or don't like it.

>>18748483
So, there are ideologies, but you object to calling them religions.
semantic quivering.

>>18748501
There are two Bibles the canon of which was given us by God the Holy Ghost at the Second Council of Rome. The two Bibles, one Greek for the Eastern Church and one in Latin for the Western Church. They were intentionally made in two well known languages at the time so that the Faith couldn't be perverted by Translations, and these two languages were spoken by just about all literate peoples in the West.
Your King James Version belongs to King James, not God. The English language didn't even exist at the time the Bible was created, and the people living in Great Britain at the time were blue painted pagans who, according to the Romans, would sit around in swamps.
Your begging the question is noted

>>18748513
>There are two Bibles
Ah okay so you decided to double down. I didn't read the rest of your post. Your brain is worthless. :D

>>18747104
sounds like your prokection to me

>>18748493
but isn’t the talmud just a bunch of rabbis arguing about the “real meaning” of the torah?

>>18748493
>Jews didn't exist during the time of jesus but jesus still denounced them o algo
Nice pilpul

>>18748499
>my board
The only board you deserve is a wooden board coming into contact with your head at high velocity. You and all the retarded niggers who belong in /trash/. NTA also.

>>18748574
Romans 8. Christ said they're not Judeans, but the synagogue of Satan. He was speaking of the Talmudist,
Not sure why you missed the point? I think you're being obtuse intentionally pretending not to understand just to be annoying. Who seeks to be annoying and doesn't seek the truth?

>>18747114
>everything else in the book
>I'm not a jew worshipper despite believing in jewish mythology.

>>18747386
>Religion evolved with man, it's in our genetics. Genetics and religion are intertwined:
I think I could maybe agree with that but humans also tend to like to make idols which your religion in its core seems to be opposed to. And when there is strict iconoclasm then abrahamism tends to turn into biblioatry. It seems that abrahamism isnt that suited to human nature as you claim it just tend to be successful by being very intolerant and kill its enemies.

>>18747481
I'm opposed to abrahamism because abrahamists are the most annoying and jews are evil.

>>18747104
Projection, actually your belief system is based around avoiding the fact that you will one day die for real and will not wake up in heaven. You know this to be true deep down which is why you still fear things that could kill you.

>>18747096
There's literally nothing to explain, it's just a bedtime story for sandniggers.

>>18747386
>Religion evolved with man, it's in our genetics. Genetics and religion are intertwined
Homosexually evolved with man, it's in our genetics. Genetics and homosexuality are intertwined.

A naturalistic argument doesn't work when the thing your arguing against is equally as natural.
Arguably being gay is more natural, since while religious thought is an evolved trait, that specific religion being Christianity is not genetic at all.

>>18748568
That's just what they want you to think, it's actually full of coded plans for galactic domination.

>>18747512
This is one of the dumbest atheist takes there is. It comes from parroting The Golden Bough which was always a speculative work and the entire "dying and rising god" framework completely lost any scientific credibility in 1960s iirc.

>>18747449
Hindoos live in abject poverty, surrounded by mountains of filth and human and animal feces. They also have absurdly high levels of rape and other crimes in their society. Also they dropped below replacement fertility, so even your poorly made evolutionary argument falls flat.

>>18748782
>You know this to be true deep down
Projection. You have no theory of mind. Atheism is pretty much a synonym for autistic psychopathy. Enjoy burning.

>>18747104
I’d say it’s more like 100%. They’re constantly suppressing the knowledge of God (Romans 1)

>>18748782
Projection. A saint has no reason to fear death, atheists are terrified of death because they know what’s coming on the other side.

>>18748451
>All that stuff can be done devotionally and in the spirit of exploration, in which case it promotes spiritual growth
Absolute spiritual derangement from a degenerate mind. That stuff is spiritual poison, and the only thing it promotes is demonic possession. Do you have a demon?

>>18747481
I don't believe in any phony-baloney gods or demons or deities. No religion is correct. I have been saying this loudly and proudly on /his/ and other boards for a long time. Christards on /his/ have a persecution complex and pretend they're the only ones being attacked by atheists because they want to push a narrative that all atheists are jews, when they are the ones who worship a literal flying jew.

>>18750449
Keep calling Jesus a Jew. Max out those flames. You're so fucked, I'm so glad I'm not you. Tick tock. :DDDDD

>>18750473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15AyVCOv5aE

>>18750478
I hope at your judgment the LORD plays this video and you get to see the temperature go up for every time Alex says Jew. This is like Christmas for me, thanks!

>>18750480
Christmas isn't in the bible.

>>18750489
>I can't read.
I know. :D

>>18747720
Pagan Greeks and Romans believed in reincarnation. So did the Norse and Druids.

Try again

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>>18750480
Christcuck melty

>>18749827
>Enjoy burning.
I come more and more to the conclusions that e-christians are soulless automatons.

>>18747367
Billions of goyim bow and kneel before a Jew every Sunday. They beg to drink his magical Jew blood, they slaughter eachother over how best to worship the magic Jew, betray their families and their countries to serve the magic Jew, they celebrate the extinction of their race in the name of the magic Jew, they believe their governments should be designed to obey the magic Jew, you believe all life ethics and the universe itself is created by a magic Jew.

Now who is obsessed? You don't understand how completely insane you are because you are in an echo-chamber of "Judeo-Christian values". Replace Jew or Jesus with Indian. Imagine you worshipped some 2000 year old Indian who shouted at trees and came to save India. Then you spend your life coping that Americans are the REAL Indians, and Indians are fake Indians because Ranjesush ackshully gave the needful to you. Now do you see how we think you are out of your fucking tree?

>>18750521
>Reject basic science.
Not really. (0/1)
>With them or against them- and you're evil if you're against them
Really we are all evil, that's why we need Jesus. (0.5/2)
>Constantly begging for validation
Nope, not even close. We don't need the approval of the world, that's why we reject ecumenism. (0.5/3)
>Responsible for thousands of deaths
I've never killed anyone. (0.5/4)
>Continues beliefs by grooming children
Nope, we continue our believes by spreading the gospel to people of all ages. (0.5/5)
>Large amount of pedophile members
There are zero pedophile Christians. Plenty of atheist pedophiles and queers, of course. (0.5/6)
>Continues to pretend to be oppressed
Pastor Anderson has been banned in over 30 countries. Pastor Shelley was illegally kicked out of his building and a Texas court upheld the decision. Pastor Meijia's church building got bombed. (0.5/7)

RESULT: 0.5/7
SCORE: 7.14%
LETTER GRADE: F

>>18750562
See >>18747367

>>18747096
How about you proved it happened first?

>>18750577
The empty tomb. The apparitions. Doubting Thomas. Come on. It's all in the Bible. Now you go fetch me a tablet from before 70 AD that claims that Jesus performed no miracles and no magic. On the contrary, you will find many claiming that they have no idea where his powers come from.

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>>18750618
>Because the bible says so
muh inspired word of god
>Now you go fetch me a tablet from before 70 AD that claims that Jesus performed no miracles and no magic.
How about you prove your positive or fuck off apologist

>>18750665
I literally gave you a positive and also gave you more positives that prove that said positive has *atleast* some amount of true. Note that this *atleast* is a fat part of it, for it is literally magic.

>>18750665
>fuck off
Are you a biological woman or a troon? Oh wait, I forgot which website I'm posting on.

>>18750673
All you've said is that the bible claims the resurrection happened. That isn't proof.

>>18750687
1. K(Jesus rose from the dead) = 1
2. Therefore, Jesus rose from the dead.
Next?

>>18750618
>empty tomb
There isn't even evidence the tomb existed in the first place.
>The apparitions
No evidence.
>Doubting Thomas
Ibid.
>It's all in the Bible
The same book that says historically inaccurate things like claiming Jews had been enslaved in Egypt or that camels were present in Palestine before they had been actually brought over?
>fetch me a tablet from before 70 AD that claims that Jesus performed no miracles and no magic
Mate, there aren't even any contemporary records that claimed he existed in his supposed lifetime.

>>18750691
1. K(christcucks tongue my anus) = 1
2. Therefore, this apologist tongued my anus.
Problem?

>>18750710
Touched a nerve I see.

>>18750665
The doctrine of biblical inerrancy is not the same thing as the bible existing. Why can’t atheists tell the difference between their denial of inerrancy and the denial that the bible is a source? And his point was clearly that the opponents of Christianity were forced to admit that Jesus performed miracles, but attributed it to magic instead of God.