how do slavic neonazis even exist? It's like being a black KKK member.
I take it you are unfamiliar with the concept of self-loathing? It occurs quite often in over-educated segments of historically oppressed peoples. For example, the "self-loathing Jew" is a veritable stereotype due to their tendency for this mindset.
>>18747171>how do slavic neonazis even exist?They don't.
>>18747171they think they can larp as the neo nazi definition of white
>>18747171>le ebil hitlod wantered to murderate le slavsfuck off jew
>>18747171Neo-Nazism is counter-intuitively not actually the ideological continutation of National Socialism after the second world-war but instead a sort of pan-reactionary aesthetic and occassional vehicle for transgressive kitsch.Neo-Nazi football ultras in Ukraine don't have a solid connection with the ideas of the Reich aside from honoring people who collaborated with them and hating Jews (though not for the same reasons). Plus they do the weird East-Slavic things where they blend elements westerners would consider anathemical to eachother (See Russia's Soviet Union & Tsardom larp, or Ukraine's bizarro Atlanticist Hitlerism thing) for reasons foreigners cannot exactly understand, so It's not a surprise it can get baffling.>>18747237They were definitely ok with having them all starve to death, certainly. Now you can debate if they deliberately tried to engineer the situation so they would starve faster, but they did want them all subjugated and at least deported, eventually.
>>18747337P.S: You can probably find more elements of continuity between NS and 1950s moderate West German politics than anywhere else. Though, I guess, the typal internet Neo-Nazism (true Neo-nazism if you would) starts with Dr. Martin Luther Pierce and his ideological renaissance in the 80s-90s.
>>18747171Maybe I'm giving Russians to much credit but I assume that they are using national socialist principles and aesthetics, not being actual hitlerites. Same with things like mongolian nazis
>>18747403What's the difference between using National Socialist principles and being a Hitlerite?
>>18747424Not being a Germanic supremacist or nationalist like Hitler?
>>18747464Or even idolizing Hitler personally
>>18747464To put it another way, if you remove Hitler and germanic supremacism, etc. What remains? The NS didn't invent ethnic chauvinism.Also, idolizing Hitler is pretty common in Neo-Nazi circles the world over. The mongolian ones iirc didn't do it because they only put upon the Nazi thing for attention in their otherwise fairly benign organization.
>>18747171>why do you like Hitler even though he'd kill youThis is like asking why even live if you're going to die in the end. Humans are simply irrational
>>18747403Not that many neo-Nazis are actual Hitlerites (full-on Nordicists).
>>18747509The Nazis weren't Nordicists, though. They mostly suppressed the more radical forms Nordicism in favour of a holistic understanding of the German Nation. There were nordicists in government, and Nordicist ideology did influence the thing. But it wasn't the core of the thing.
>>18747171Same reason why so many online racists are browns. Liberal/leftist culture is just inherently gay and unappealing, even leftists don't want to associate themselves with it hence they increasingly use right-wing slang and meme formats
>>18747602As soon as wojak shit went mainstream i knew it was over
>>18747602>gigachad is a "right wing" mememental illness
>>18747624It was created by incels whom our society sees as far-right (I'd label them as an offshoot of communism but whatever) and for years it's been used exclusively by rwers because it represents sociopathy and/or Nietzschean rejection of conventional morality.
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>>18747630>if you can't get pussy you are far righthmm
>>18747754Incels themselves predominantly identify as left-leaning, it's just that society sees them as far right
>>18747576>They mostly suppressed the more radical forms NordicismWhat forms are those?
>>18747171>It's like being a black KKK memberThose also exist
>>18747171They got Jewish NeoNazis too. The funniest manifestation of this was the Russian TV miniseries about Trotsky that embraced the judeo-bolshevik theory of the Russian revolution.
>>18747403It's true almost none of them are vegetarians like a true hitlerite.
>>18747171How do people begin to hate their neighbours like this? So many people must have interacted with Poles, read Polish literature, enjoyed Polish music
>>18747171germonkeys fucked around and found out
>>18747171The most amazing thing is to see the Russian military vehicles with a Nazi swastika on one side and a hammer and sickle on the other.
>>18747602>>18747171
>>18749686retvrn
>>18747171I’d kind of understand neo-Nazis in Ukraine. They’re fighting the Russian hordes in a similar fashion to how the Nazis did in the latter half of ww2, it’s understandable for them to have similar views on the Russians.
nobody ever accused nazis of being smart
>>18747171nobody likes niggers
>>18749686>fags should vote for tranny communists to flood the country with shitskin terrorists of course reddit would be this stupid
>>18747237Nazi Dirlewanger literally let non-white Volga Tatars and South Caucasus Azerbaijani Turks in his brigade to gang rape white Polish women in the Wola massacre.
>>18747171>No, see, actually, what he MEANT was...That's how.
>>18749870They were neoNazis BEFORE the Russians invaded. Arguably that's why Russia invaded in the first place.>Hurrrr durrr VATNIK!!!!Look up what mainstream media was saying about Ukraine immediately prior to February 2022. Most something something country in Europe with a massive something something problem.
>>18747493I think it also stems from historic ignorance. For the longest time, many third worlders were unaware of the horrors of Nazi Germany and viewed Hitler similarly to Hannibal. It’s only in the last couple of decades that information about the Holocaust is now global knowledge.
>>18751053Yes, noone knew about the holocaust or nazi racial policies in eastern Europe until fairly recently. I think they made a movie about it that got people's attention.
>>18751043Perhaps there was a neo-Nazi problem prior to the invasion because Russia had been arming and funding a separatist group in eastern Ukraine for almost a decade at that point. Again I don’t blame Ukraine for having a neo-Nazi problem when Russia was actively trying to subvert their country. Of course there would be Ukrainians who would turn to the ideology that wants to murder all Russians (even though the Nazis were mostly anti-Slavic in general).
>>18751098>Ok it is happening and it is a big deal but actually it's a good thing
>>18751101Maybe Russia shouldn’t have ever tried to interfere in Ukraine’s affairs
>>18747177>I take it you are unfamiliar with the concept of self-loathing?also self interest. 'kill everyone else but let me join'. More common than anyone wants to admit.
>>18751108>Just let avowed neoNazis enslave, rape and butcher your people
>>18751118Yup, the old "why would anyone dig what is obviously their own grave" thing. If I do an extra good job they'll see what a good little guy I am and let me go! Maybe even rewar-ACK
>>18751119Got actual proof that they were doing that?
