1/3 of the angels is not a tiny minority. If Lucifer/Satan is so obviously wrong why would 1/3 of the beings who have most direct access to God fight against him? They all know God better than any of us ever could on this plane of existence.
>>18750157The idea of 33% of the Angels following Satan comes from Milton's Paradise Lost. In the actual Bible, God and Satan are the same entity.>Again the anger of the Lord was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, “Go, number Israel and Judah.” (2 Samuel 24:1)>Now Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel. (1 Chronicles 21:1)^ These two verses are describing the exact same event.
>>18750228not this shit argument again
>>18750238Not this complete lack of a counterargument again...
>>18750243I will not elaborate because of three reasons, one, this has been spoken about since before you and I were born, making it redundant, because the outcome is already the same as always. Secondly, we can argue whether it was a historic reinterpretation because maybe it was putting God in a bad light, but that's retarded for the third reason; zoom the fuck out. You guys always focus on the verse describing the incitator as God or Satan, but this is retarded. God was angry against the people of Israel, therefore Satan acted below that mantle because he was yet not sealed as Jesus had not been born and crucified as per prophesy demanded. In this context, God as the permissive source allowing it as a judgment on Israel's sin. God frequently permits evil agents to execute His sovereign will without being the author of the sin itself [PLEASE SEE THE BOOK OF JOB FOR THIS MOSTLY EVIDENT]. This doesn't mean Satan is God though. That's just a made up thought.Unironically stoke those flames. When will you retards realize that humanity is always permantently cosmically retarded.
>>18750259If Satan was acting as God's subordinate that would've been specified in Corinthians. The fact is when you compare both verses it's obvious they're one and the same entity.
>>18750259>I will not elaborate>proceeds to elaborate
>>18750228Actually I think it's an extrapolation of Revelation saying the Beast or whatever took out a third of the stars in the sky. He just chose to interpret that as angels being incited to treason. The alternative reading is that it's meant to be a feat to establish Satan's attack potency
>>18750157I don't buy that number for a second.
>>18750228Dum dum it's what Revelation says.
>>187503351/3 of all angels of heaven is trillions and trillions of angels.
>>18750340I dunno if we know that. But the social influence feat is better for Satan than what is at best a Multi-Galaxy AP feat
>>18750328further beyond that one post I meant.
>>18750157According to 1 Enoch the Watchers decided to have sex with human women and that was their betrayal. So it was horniness that did them in.
>>18750228>>18750335Yeah, it's from Revelation 12 where it says the dragon swept a third of the stars down to earth. Soon after, it says war broke out in heaven, and "Michael and his angels fought against the dragon. The dragon and his angels fought back." Given that stars represent angels elswhere in Revelation, a common inference is that the stars swept down are the angels who sided with the dragon (Satan), though it isn't explicit.
>>18750338>>18750335>>18750351Stars =/= Angels, that part is complete Milton headcanon
>>18750351When the watches fell Satan was already Satan.
>>18750361"As for the mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches." (Revelation 1:20)It's uncertain whether the angels in this verse are intended to be supernatural angels, human messengers, or church leaders, but it does say stars represent angels.
>>18750368Okay I might be wrong
>>18750374It's still arguably headcanon because Revelation is so open to interpretation, but it's very old headcanon. Even the earliest surviving commentary on Revelation from the third century seems to mention it as the author's preferred interpretation.https://www.orcuttchristian.org/Gaius%20Marius%20Victorinus_Commentary%20on%20the%20Apocalypse%20of%20the%20Blessed%20John.pdf
El is god, yahweh is satan.
>>18750438When Abram was 99 years old, Yahu appeared to him and said, I am El
