So, I've come to the conclusion that men are the problem. I've been thinking about this for years, and there's really no other way to logic it. Now, they aren't a problem in the way you may be assuming, "Men are sexist", "Men are patriarchal", "Men are shallow", no, that's not the issue. It's that men are entirely suffering from the delusion of what they project onto women; having outrageous standards and not wanting to settle down.Like they commonly claim for women that women's standards have shot through the roof due to social media and Tinder, men's standards have likewise shot through the roof due to gooning culture and widespread, omnipresent access to pornography. Women largely want 3 things from a man (Not necessarily all 3, mind you), and will attach themselves to anyone who can present them; pleasure, security, or safety. Pleasure can be sexual, emotional or materially, but a man who can make them feel desired and content is important. Safety is generally making them feel safe, which is why they go for tall men, buff men, bad boys, etc, someone who they think can protect them. Then there's security; this revolves around stability, whether it's a steady job, a high income, or reliability in some form that allows the woman to know he will be there and he will be able to lead me out of difficult situations. Modern man has become neutered; losing his edge for offering safety. He has become stripped of wealth, due to lack of incentives to pursue financial improvement, and other economic and deleterious factors. He has become impotent, finding himself complacent in his own luxuries such as video games, hobbies, porn, and entertainment. He has become fat, lazy, and sexless.On top of all of this, he has come to desire the top echelon of women, assuming he has some birthright or ingrained access to them, brainwashed into this belief by the very games, movies, and pornography he has come to associate with his leisure lifestyle.
>>18750166-CONT-Now, women have their own issues, I'm not denying that, but the largest cause of failure for men in the couples market, is a result of themselves. Pursuing women out of their league while offering little to nothing to those who spare them the time.It's time to grow up and take responsibility instead of whining and crying and using mental gymnastics from youtubers to convince yourselves you aren't at fault. Women have their own issues which they too will sort out amongst themselves, but this is a wake up call to the men out there. Do better.
Take it to /r9k/ faggot
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>"outrageous standards for men when it comes to women":>Don't be a whore>Don't be a whaleWow.
>>18750174That's some random infographic that is baseless.https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/06/240627172014.htm#:~:text=Couples%20also%20tended%20to%20be,led%20by%20Gregory%20Webster%2C%20PhStudies have hypergamy exists, but it is nowhere near as lopsided as this fake infograph would have it appear.Find another cuck propaganda excuse.
everyone is fat and gay now it’s not a surprise no one wants to date.
>>18750186>Don't be a whoreMen have an average of 2 more lifetime partners than women do.https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htmSo what you're left with is>don't be a whaleWhich does not qualify as the singular cause, due to the rates of severe obesity not matching the decrease in dating, especially with obesity rates decreasing but dating still at an all-time low.
>>18750166>top echelon of womenLiterally just women who aren't fat or sluts. And even then, most men will still settle without issue, unfortunately. The rest of your post is just justifying women being superficial and blaming men for not being rich enough for their unrealistic expectations.
>>18750194Because the decrease in dating comes entirely from women, not men.
>>18750197No, it doesn't. Men are largely not making the first move anymore.https://www.vice.com/en/article/why-gen-z-and-millennial-men-arent-making-the-first-move-anymore/
this >>18750191we are discovering surrogates for sex like porn and love like AI chatbots and the modern world with its prosperity and leisure time provides ample opportunity to do so, all while people let themselves go, stuff themselves with goyslop and lose their social skillsmodern degeneracy is killing us like fent is killing an addict, we need to set limits and develop philosophies and ways of life to resist decadence
The trick to get women in the West to stop breeding entirely was just to pay them more than men. Women refuse to couple with anyone "beneath" them on the social status totem, which automatically includes salary. Therefore, with only women being hired and women being paid more than men via the false narrative of a wage gap, 95% of men now eliminated from the breeding pool. All women now compete for the top 5% of men who can pick and choose from their multitude, and likely won't settle at all. Tada, you just eliminated birthrates, since the choosey girls won't be having babies at all.It isn't difficult to understand plummeting birthrates. I just explained it to you in its entirety.
>>18750204I can't imagine a more painful existence than being a christcuck and artificially limiting yourself because you think using municipal systems will condemn you to hell by a spiteful, petty, angry god.
>>18750203Are women incapable of making the first move? Especially after yapping on and on about how they hate men approaching them? Surely that's the logical solution to that problem.
>>18750197>Because the decrease in dating comes entirely from women, not men.So if people stop going to McDonalds are you gonna blame the consumers or McDonalds?
>>18750212> I just explained it to you in its entirety.You didn't explain anything. You just shat a bunch of schizoid retarded nonsense on the keyboard and called it a day. Falling birthrates occurs in 95% of all first world countries, with few notable exceptions, regardless of culture or the status of women's autonomy. Saudi Arabia's birthrate fell 3% just only from last year.
>>18750220Yes, but your average tiktoker kvetching about men nonstop wants a Ferrari-driving multimillionaire who won't even notice they exist as they speed by. You, the schlubby office worker, are beneath the girls' notice. Therefore neither one of you will breed or date.
>>18750222Post meant for this >>18750203>Men are largely not making the first move anymore.
>>18750223Maybe reading comprehension will help you understand why. Women openly say, in public, they will not date anyone "beneath" them.
>>18750227Happens every day, but apparently because some random woman online said it, it must be universally true!
>>18750222You do realize women would be McDonalds in this scenario, right? Men approach women, just how people go to McDonalds. People stop going to McDonalds and men stop approaching women.
>>18750166>men's standards have likewise shot through the roof due to gooning culture and widespread, omnipresent access to pornography.This is a trvke, I like beautiful gorgeous women, and that's why I hit the gym and get money n shiet, and yes, this all or nothing atittude is what's fucking up society and gender relations
>>18750166Didn't read, but both men and women suck nowadays + have alternative methods of fulfillment.My standards aren't what I would consider high:>not fat, cares about health>not a drug addict or alcoholic>no tattoos>not a feminist>not a whoreThat's literally it. But like 90% of women are so shit, they can't meet these low standards, kek. Fuck off.
I want to say that I didn’t read your post, and I have no interest in reading it. Furthermore, unless you happen to be a woman—or perhaps a transvestite, or just some ordinary guy who thinks that criticizing men will earn him extra points with women. The "incel" phenomenon was not the result of women’s unwelcome intrusion into exclusively male spaces, but rather of men’s unrequited sexual desire (love is rarely mentioned), with women rejecting men due to the latter’s anti-feminist beliefs. Inequality in relationships has increased, especially among men Women have been favored for "female-type," "male-type," and "gender-balanced" jobs; since the 2010s, even "male-type" jobs have reached gender parity, meaning that women are favored for "all types of jobs."But what do we know for sure, besides the fact that you’re a moron? When choosing a partner for a serious relationship, women value wealth and status significantly more than men do. Marriage rates decline as the likelihood of a woman earning more than her male partner increases; furthermore, the wealthier and more educated a woman is, the more she desires a man who earns more than she does—deal with it. Policies that boost women’s lifetime earnings tend to lower fertility, while those that promote fertility reduce lifetime earnings. An increase in female unemployment leads to higher fertility. Not to mention that women’s preferences regarding height are unrealistic:you lost. remind them that women are more likely to have sex with people with intellectual disabilities than with young men who have a high IQ
>>18750250Oh, I forgot to mention a few other things before this ridiculous thread gets forgotten or dies out because it’s neither history nor humanities. Higher body counts are predicted by:Being female, being left-wing, increased weight, increased BMI, a greater number of mental illnesses, and homosexuality n=75,211 lol the Danish study does not invalidate recent data showing that tattoos correlate with mental illness, sexual promiscuity, homosexuality, low IQ, low socioeconomic status, impulsivity, drug abuse, criminality, obesity, etc Young women are significantly more anti-men than the other way around.One might argue that this is a rational response to the rise of right-wing misogyny among young men—men who have been "radicalized" by nefarious muh "manosphere" influencers like Andrew Tate or whoever else. Conversely, the shift of young men toward the "right" was a response to the radical shift of women toward the left, which began around 2010 with the rise of feminism. The average woman is a soulless disaster
>>18750281>>18750250>>18750249OP btfo>>18750166>le pornnice try, roast. this shitty feminist excuse doesn't hold water anymore. Women consume just as much—if not more—pornographic material as men the real issue is the *type* of content each person consumes. Women actually watch more violent pornography (i mean go see what dark romance means you dumb tard) for instance theyare more inclined toward violent sex and derive greater enjoyment from sexual violence than men do. Women have been dressing like whores for years they also spent years arguing that bikinis are "in no way sexual" and that only a "porn-brained creep" would suggest it’s whorish for women to post photos of themselves in attire that is, for all practical purposes, indistinguishable from underwear. (The reality: Porn desensitizes men to female nudity.)I am so tired of these hypocritical, narcissistic sluts. Put them in burqas until they learn how to behave themselves. >What? So you’re demanding that I not have a double-digit body count? That I shouldn’t be some misandrist, far-left, domineering feminist—a land whale with zero respect for marriage who just wants to live as a promiscuous single woman? That’s, like, super radical, lol. >You’re just an incel projecting your own issues onto women. Wow I have the right—and I demand—a rich, 6-foot-tall "bad boy" werewolf type, someone aggressive who gives me constant, unprecedented adrenaline and excitement—even though I’m ugly and stupid.
>>18750249>both men and women suck nowadaysThis. Modern women are positively awful but let's not pretend like there aren't a ton of dudes who aren't total shitbags either. This whole generation is fucked.
>>18750166>On top of all of this, he has come to desire the top echelon of womenThis is technically true because not being a fat whore automatically puts a women in the upper echelon.
>>18750166>>18750167The only people who care about this are retards who see dating as a game to win. It's good that men don't need a woman for sexual gratification, it's good that women don't need a man for security, it's good that people are realizing they'd rather be single than settle.
>>18750522Only if you're a nihilist
>>18750533No.
>>18750166The problem with hoe math is that while most of his takes on relationships are true in a sense, hes basically a victim of his own faults. When you listen to him drop info about his personal life and piece it all together you get the full picture that he was a nerd who didnt have a lot of success with women, got into fitness and self-improvement stuff, and after becoming attractive, gravitated to a specific kind of woman. These women were all sexy, charismatic, and alluring, but shallow, vapid, entitled, and delusional bitches. All of this simply reinforced a narrative that this is what all women were like when he essentially just found exactly what hes looking for. You cant get everything you want, everything has a trade off. If you want a comfy quiet family life with a mild mannered wife who will cook for you, you are more than likely going to find a solid 6/10 in a small town. If you want an exciting party life of thrills with a hot babe to have crazy sex with, youre going to have the trade off of her being a crazy bitch. You get to pick which one you want and I feel like its pretty obvious to any mature man that this is the case. Some people cant stand this, break down, and basically throw a tantrum because they want a hot exciting party girl whos also going to be a submissive trad wife and this just isnt the case. Even the online tradwives are basically just fetish of sluts acting out a fetish LARP thing for attention, real tradwives dont even know what that term means.
>>18750167>offering little to nothing to those who spare them the timeGibs me(ugly woman) dat(your money) for free(because I pretended to be interested in you)
>>18750573idiot most women are vapid and almost all women are whores why do u think women have been beaten to bloody sticks in every civilization
>>18750298Malding fatty who jerks off to anime women, lmao
>>18750216They have fun.I'm sure you look at them building barns or whatever and think "BORING, what a bunch of dorks", but they are happy. There are other ways to live besides LARPing like an American nigger the way mass media brainwashed you.
>>18750634>POTION SELLER
>>18750166Blaming simps for women's faults is simp behaviour.
>>18750237Yea the product are McDonald's is awful and so is the customer service.Modern woman are McDonald's in this metaphor. How does arguing 30 hours a day with a brain rotted toddler that refuses to give you children and can walk off with half your money at any time make a man's life any better?
>>18750166I don't hate him but his domain is psychology not history like me. I'm also a writer and a "content creator" (god I hate that word)
>>18750216Very Jewish post, congratulations.
>>18750212I think the one thing thats big elephant in the room is that the October 1917 revolutions in Russia had a lot of rape. What i think needs to be done is a state of exception (in Schmitt's wording) to decriminalize rape for a brief period and then use laws which force women to marry their rapists. Then the state of exception can be lifted and we're back to having above replacement birth rates. In several different articles I laid this theory out on substack.
>>18750573TRVKE
>>18750573>When you listen to him drop info about his personal life and piece it all together you get the full picture that he was a nerd who didnt have a lot of success with women, got into fitness and self-improvement stuff, and after becoming attractive, gravitated to a specific kind of woman.I had been figuring this out too, aggravated by his social media use, there's some truth into what he says which helps his building his strawwomen.
>>18750573If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make a beautiful woman your wife
Even if they are delusional on a personal level about the kind of girl that they deserve the math checks out.
>>18750166Hey retard, we literally have statistics for this kind of crap. Tinder Bumble, Hinge, etc. If it's purely based on looks (which is what foids claim men care so much about) than men swipe right WAY more than women. Women reject like 90% of men on dating apps purely based on looks. Log off this fucking site foid you're always invading our spaces.
>>18750194A man who slept with multiple women is no issue. A woman who slept with many men has had loads of multiple men deposited in her and has been defiled. All her children will have traces of all those other men's DNAs. A man who has had children with other women is still genetically pure, a woman who has given birth to another man's kids has had that DNA fused with hers through the human that grew inside her
>>18750203Dating is a modern invention. Men nor women have ever been used to this and it's why it's a mess. Men have always taken wives from the hands of her father while they were still virgins. And for the entire history of humanity women have been desperate for a husband to take her out of her father's house before she loses her youthful charm.The last thing a women from ore 100 years ago would ever desire is to let a man fuck her before he committed to marry her and then dump her either a baby. Because no respectable men would ever marry her after that and she would be homeless and starved to death or forced into prostitutuon.
>>18751679Make Men Fear Touching Another Man's Wife Again. Stone adulterer men to death.
>>18751696Caesar Augustus was literally a stepdad. This is just fanfiction.
>>18751703>Caesar AugustusWho?
>>18750188That study don't really say what you are implying, it points that people tent to land relationships/settling on their level of attractiveness while the hyppergamy discourse is about women chasing the top % of attractive men, not landing relationships with them
>>18751689>. All her children will have traces of all those other men's DNAs.that's not how genetics works you retard
>>18750166Not reading your diatribe beyond the sentence.Women are hyenas, men are lions. When the lions are weak, the hyenas run wild. This is a growing phenomenon that started with Gen X in the West and became completely unsalvageable about nine years ago. Unsalvageable, but still getting exponentially worse with each generation.
>>18752812>Microchimerism isn't HECKIN' realJust admit you're a beta.
>>18750166But we know what male and female standards are like thanks to okcupid you don't have to create speculative anthropological framework for that.
