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Why were the Japanese so fanatical during WW2?
Germans and Japanese were ideologically motivated, but Germans had no problem surrendering, while Japanese fought to the last man.
By June of 1944, there were 569 Japanese prisoners of war in American custody.
By June 1944, the United States held approximately 371,000 German prisoners of war across its domestic camp system.
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>>18752826
It's because japs, at the end of the day, are still bugmen. They do things exceedingly well. Fighting, dying, hating, crying. It's why skilled Oriental musicians are credited as "most professional."

But the bugman is also incapable of love, or understanding deeper meaning behind what they do. It's purely mathematical. It just so happens that math is a consistent, universal language.
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The Japanese were propagandized and do believing not the Americans were ruthless monsters that would commit unspeakable acts of horror onto Japanese soldiers. The Germans, already fighting the Soviets understood that the Americans were the safer option to surrender to
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>>18752880
they also didn't have Christian morality to feel guilty over war crimes
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>>18752887
to this day they're still not really sorry about WW2 atrocities other than a few libtards like Miyazaki, just a little disappointed that the US didn't let them finish off China
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>>18752826
Imperial Japan was already like that for a long time whereas Nazi Germany was a country of Prussian junkers and convervatives held hostage for 12 years by the Nazis basically because USSR was worse to them.
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>>18752880
The Japanese and Germans were incredibly propagandized to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksempf%C3%A4nger
Nazi Germany’s Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda had access to more technology, higher funding and more personnel, and yet they had far higher rates of desertion and Surrender. Why?
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>>18752935
as he said, >>18752887 so they had more of a sense of hey man, maybe burning down a village and killing everyone in it for harboring guerrillas is wrong
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>>18752923
the Japanese only started to flip out in the 1920s when the Western powers didn't view them as equals and they were outraged at the 1924 immigration act banning Japanese emigration to the US.
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>>18753015
Japan’s Pearl Harbor attack and pacific strategy was a copy and paste of their success during the Russo-Japanese War. Japan during WW1 had already sent harsh terms to China, attempting to make it a virtual protectorate during WW1. Japan’s foreign policy ambitions followed its historical trends. Only supercharged due to the power of militarists post Great Depression, and their belief that securing more land was the solution to it.
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>>18752903
>Let them finish off China

Lol their performance in China was embarrassing. They got ground to a standstill by illiterate peasants and their greatest achievements consist of tard raging and murdering a bunch of civilians.
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>>18752903
>, just a little disappointed that the US didn't let them finish off China

US didn't stop shit, the US embargoed Japan for invading French Indochina in 1940

The US literally sold all of Japan's oil supply while Japan was attacking China retard

Japan lost every war against China before the Meiji restoration when UK built Japan's modern navy.

The only reason Japan had a modern navy and oil in 1937 was because of the UK and US.

If UK and US never opened Japan up, Japan couldn't do jack shit against China

>>18752903
>>18752887
>>18752826
>they're still not really sorry about WW2 atrocities other than a few libtards like Miyazaki

Japanese veterans in the worst theatres for Japan like New Guinea, Mindanao, Sulu and Burma/Yunnan, Guam, Imphal almost uniformly admit to suffering in absolute subhuman conditions and to mentally breaking down with Japanese committing suicide with their own bayonets, abandoning sick and injured comrades to die or even stealing their food when abandoning them, or fighting other Japanese for food or killing and eating other Japanese.

Japanese survivors lile Fujioka Akiyoshi from Mindanao and Jolo in Sulu admit Moro Muslims butchered the Japanese like pigs and the Japanese were in utter terror of the Moros and fleeing fron them

Fujioka said he and other Japanese desperately wanted to surrender to Americans to avoid being butchered by Moros but his commanding officer threatened to cut all Japanese soldiers who discussed surrender into pieces.

97% of Japanese in Mindanao, Jolo and New Guinea died

The Japanese in Mindanao and Jolo were killed by Moro Muslims

American soldiers like Louis Armentaro saw Moro Muslims chase and behead fleeing Japanese who tried to run from the Moros.

You never read actual diaries of Japanese survivors from New Guinea or the Moro theater or Burma

The Japanese survivors describe it as hell

Japanese soldiers who boast about the war crimes were from places like Java where they faced zero resistance
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>>18753225
>Japanese soldiers in mainland Asia who wanted to continue fighting the filthy Occidentals usually just took up arms for the budding anti-colonial insurgents like the Viet Minh or in the Chinese Civil War.

No they did not voluntarily take up arms in China

Contrary to your misconception, neither the Communists nor KMT in China retained Japanese combat soldiers to fight in the civil war, neither voluntary nor forced.

Communist Party of China and KMT central army only retained non-combat personnel like nurses and technicians, who were mostly just civilians working for the Japanese army.

Only one warlord retained Japanese combat soldiers, Yan Xishan, and it was not even voluntary on part of the Japanese footsoldiers, the commanding Japanese general in Taiyuan decided for them after Yan Xishan sought to recruit him. It was one Japanese unit of 10,000 and their general decided for them

These Japanese only fought in battle of Taiyuan and did not fight anywhere outside of Shanxi, which was Yan Xishan's base.

These Japanese were also mostly killed by the Chinese Communist Party in battle in the siege of Taiyuan the commanding Japanese general and officers committed suicide when Taiyuan fell

Like 7000 out of the 10000 Japanese were killed and the rest arrested and deported

Yan Xishan and the Japanese only controlled Taiyuan and Datong, most of rural Shanxi and other cities were Communist held in the war.

And most Japanese left behind in China were Japanese women and girl settlers called zanryu fujin who were seized by Chinese men as wives.

> the Viet Minh or

It was only in Indonesia and Vietnam where Japanese soldiers voluntarily enlisted in Viet Minh and Indonesian forces and were given Vietnamese Kinh wives and Indonesian Javanese wives despite Japanese mass raping Vietnamese women and Indonesian Javanese girls dyeing the war

Japan also killed 4 million Indonesian Javanese and 2 million Vietnamese Kinh through forced labour to death or starvation.
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>>18753225
>>18753331
The Soviet Union killed and deported most of the Japanese Kwantung army to gulags, leaving only non-combat Japanese civilian personnel like nurses for Communists to recruit (after the Soviets raped every Japanese nurse of course in addition to mass raping Japanese female settlers)

The US arranged for ships to deport Japanese China Expedtitionary Army as well as send Korean comfort women back home to Korea.

The KMT and Communists both did not recruit Japanese mercenaries. The Communists only retained nurses and people like railroad technicians

Also the Japanese male technicians were deported back to Japan after the civil war top

Only Japanese females like zanryu fujin stayed in China as wives of Chinese farmers.
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>>18753042

Russians actually smashed the Japanese on land in the Russo Japanese War, Japanese outnumbered Russians but lost more dead

Japan used human waves against outnumbered Russians at Nanshan and the Siege of Port Arthur.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/18717418/#q18717418

Japan won the naval part of the war with its British built fleet funded by Japanese prostitutes (karayuki-san)

Daughters of Japanese officers killed by the Russians prostituted themselves to Chinese men.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/18717418/#q18717418


Japan exported prostitutes before the war and was also a destination for Chinese male sex tourists right up to WW2

Chinese men living in WW2 Japan continued having sex with Japanese women.

Sadaharu Oh was born to a Chinese father and Japanese mother in 1940 in Tokyo.

Japan never had Nuremberg laws banning foreign men from Japanese women.

It was legal for Chinese men to fuck Japanese girls in Japan in the entire WW2


And Japan never did what Germany did retard. Germans were more extreme in racial policies.

Japan never banned non-Japanese men from sex with Japanese women

Nazi Germany banned Jews and Gypsies from sex with Germans

Japan never forced sterilised or aborted Japanese of paternal Chinese descent

Japan literally had tons of children from Chinese male sex tourism with Japanese girls for centuries, Chinese men abandoned their bastards in Japan all the time.

Hitler force sterilised the Rhineland bastards.

Again you're a retard who thinks Japan has Nazi style racial policies

Japan never banned foreigners from sex with Japanese women ever
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>>18753341
Japanese school girls whose fathers were officers killed in Japanese human wave attacks in Russo-Japanese war at Nanshan and Siege of Port Arthur, became prostitutes for Chinese men in Japan

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=os0kDQAAQBAJ&pg=PA82
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=RLViDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA86


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34774630
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enjo_k%C5%8Dsai

https://cambridge.org/core/books/abs/japans-imperial-underworlds/treaty-ports-and-traffickers/D25A5A505B725271E94FCD358B0C8AD4
https://cambridge.org/core/books/abs/japans-imperial-underworlds/embodying-the-borderland-in-the-taiwan-strait/45567A01B5F520DBC7C72A1C52D29FDD
https://eastasianhistory.org/39/vos-foibles
https://dokumen.pub/selling-women-prostitution-markets-and-the-household-in-early-modern-japan-9780520952386.html

Russians used muzzle loading black powder antique Chinese cannon to massacre numerically superior Japanese at Nanshan
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/56038/56038-h/56038-h.htm
>But there is no stop. This is not reconnoisance; it is battle. The skirmishers deployed and well up, now the main line advances. Out from the trees on a dog-trot springs a battalion. It is going to try that griddle of death. The men dash valiantly on, agile fellows, intense as[76] fanatics. Now the hundred field cannon come into play. Most are Chinese of ancient date, some are modern, rim-firing. Smoke fills the plain. It is difficult to see. The torrent of lead is on. Snatched through the noise of firing you can hear great cries; they grow spasmodic, then cease. The firing slows. Soon only the automatic pops are heard. The smoke drifts off. The foremost man is there on the wire, gutted. He hangs, a frightful mass, limp on the barbs. Here and there a poor fellow is crawling, as you have seen some worm trodden on vainly seek its hole. Not a man of the battalion has survived. A thousand brave, faithful soldiers are gone. So this is civilized warfare!
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>>18753341
>>18753342
Chinese leader Sun Yatsen had 2 Japanese teenage girl concubines in Japan during the Russo-Japanese war, Kaoru Otsuki and Haru Asada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaoru_Otsuki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haru_Asada

Russians used antique black powder muzzle loading Chinese cannon at Jinzhou in the battle of Nanshan to slaughter Japanese human waves
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Nanshan#The_battle
>On 24 May 1904, during a heavy thunderstorm, the Japanese Fourth Division under the command of Lieutenant General Ogawa Mataji attacked the walled town of Chinchou (modern-day Jinzhou District 金州), just north of Nanzan hill. Despite being defended by no more than 400 men with antiquated artillery, the Fourth Division failed on two attempts to breach its gates. Two battalions from the First Division attacked independently at 05:30 on 25 May 1904, finally breaching the defenses and taking the town.[4]
>With his flank thus secure, General Oku could then commence the main assault on the entrenched Russian forces on Nanshan Hill. The assault was postponed a day due to the weather. On 26 May 1904, Oku began with prolonged artillery barrage from Japanese gunboats offshore, followed by infantry assaults by all three of his divisions. The Russians, with mines, Maxim machine guns and barbed wire obstacles, inflicted heavy losses on the Japanese during repeated assaults. By 18:00, after nine attempts, the Japanese had failed to overrun the firmly entrenched Russian positions. Oku had committed all of his reserves, and both sides had used up most of their artillery ammunition.[4]

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=RLViDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA75#v=onepage&q&f=false
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>18753341
>>18753342
>>18753345

>>18248265

>>18248298

Japanese official documents on Chinese sex tourists from Nanjing (Nanking) in the 1600s and 1700s pumping and dumping Japanese teenage girls after getting them pregnant


>As a matter of fact many Chinese seem to have worried about the education and future of such children. Huang Chê-ch’ing,12 a captain from Nanking, had a liaison with Yakumo,13 a girl from the Iwataya, and fathered a boy Kimpachi,14 his only child. In 1723, when he was 71, he returned to Nagasaki to meet his son. He then brought goods with him sufficient to take care of his son for the rest of his life and asked the Chief Administrator’s Office for a special permit to barter them.[55]

This was centuries before World War II

Chinese men from Fuqing, Fuzhou in Fujian province were grooming and importing Japanese women from Japan to Fujian, China in the 1920s, just a few years before Japan attacked China and set up Manchukuo.

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17164434/#q17164434

>>17164434

Han men did sex tourism in Japan for centuries during Sengoku Jidao, Edo period and Meiji restoration and fathered bastard children

Like Sun Yatsen, Cong Liangbi, Su Manshu's father, Sadaharu Oh's father.

Sadaharu Oh was born in Japan to a Japanese mother and Han Chinese father in Japan in 1940 in the middle of WW2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadaharu_Oh
Japan never occupied entire provinces of China like Qinghai, Ningxia, Gansu, Shaanxi and Sichuan, west Guangxi, west Hunan, west Hubei, west Henan, most of Fujian, most of Yunnan, most of Guizhou, southwest Zhejiang, southeast Jiangxi, a big part of Anhui.
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Japanese men painted images of Dutch men fucking Japanese girls in the Edo period Tokugawa Shogunate.

South Asians view this as a humiliation.

>>18753341

>the japanese concept of honour is extremely different from izzat their concept of bushido is driven by belief in their superiority,

Wrong.

First of all Bushido only applied to samurai

Samurai could kill Japanese peasants for insulting them amd have sex with Japanese peasant wives while if a Japanese peasant did those to samurai he would be killed.

Secondly, Japanese literally prostituted and sold Japanese girls to foreigners while doing this.

Japanese prostituted Japanese girls to Dutch men, called orandayuki-san. Japanese men even painted art of Dutch men having sex with Japanese women

At the same time the Japanese flew into a rage and tantrum over the same Dutch collecting tolls from Japanese ships in Taiwan in the Hamada Yahei incident

Japanese litetally regarded paying toll taxes as a humiliation while not regarding foreign men fucking Japanese girls as humiliation.

South Asian Izzat is literally centered around women and insulting other people's women and calling them whores in contrast to your own women.

A South Asian thinks your women getting fucked is a bigger humiliated than a toll tax.
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>>18752826
Other Japanese literally stereotyped Japanese from Osaka as cowards who flee in battle and surrendered, from Russo-Japanese war to World War II

samurai despised Japanese merchants from Osaka and forced the Osaka units to do human wave attacks against Russians at Nanshan and Port Arthur.

Not even biased ultranationalisr bullshit Japanese, claim all Japanese were fanatic Bushido warriors

Japanese themselves say Osaka is a city of cowards.

And we have weebs who think all Japanese were samurai.

Most Japanese descend from peasant families who were abused by samurai.
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>>18753360

Do you have any sources for this in English?

Sounds like some fascinating reading
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>>18752887
Yeah, which is why I don't understand why they keep crying about the nukes and firebombings, they quite literally deserved it



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