>Socialism is when the government does stuff. And it's more socialism the more stuff it does. And if it does a real lot of stuff, it's communism.Unironically, what is wrong with this statement?
>>18753626You don't get it chuddie, the state will magically vanish faster than Engel's money after Marx uses it to fund his neetdom. Just two more weeks until communist utopia happens. You gotta give all your goods and property and influence away to (((appointed))) bureaucrats first though. Then after waiting a tiny little bit the kingdom of heave- I mean post scarcity utopia will dawn upon us all. There won't be any state there, and that's what socialism is. The in-between stage is uhh, I don't know, a people's republic. Not real socialism, which will never be tried because of people like you chuddie.
>>18753626Are you asking if this is a correct definition of what socialism is or are you asking if this idea is a good one?
You're a retard and expecting serious answers from other retards
>>18753687Soviet Union is the only real communist state, it withered away completely.
>>18753687The "withering away of the state" makes perfect sense if you know what is meant by state, and it is not simply synonymous with government or authority, and if you know what the words socialism and communism actually mean in marxism.
>>18753626Maybe socialism/communism is just a vibe like how boomers back then think nothing more than opposing the war, smoke weed and do a lil Weather Underground bombing. People are politically shallow it's permissible to tell a noble lie.
>>18753626Communism is the ideology. Socialism is the system they are trying to build as step 1 of the grand plan. A state-capitalist totalitarian dystopian state is what you actually end up with.
>>18753919>socialism/communism is just a vibeThis is also true of anti-communists I've noticed on this board. Half the time the complaints they raise are just generic criticisms of authoritarian regimes in general while the understanding they have of communism is rarely deeper than "common enemy we can all rally against"But these things are broadly true of anyone who roots themselves primarily in opposition to something else rather than in something that can stand on its own.
>>18753968>Half the time the complaints they raise are just generic criticisms of authoritarian regimes in general while the understanding they have of communism is rarely deeper than "common enemy we can all rally against"cope. Authoritarianism is a key aspect of communism so those who are critical of it are obviously going to harp on that. Its not just that "some" communist regimes end up as authoritarian, its that they all do and they all promote this ideal. Even the most level 1 biosludge anitfa freak with zero actual power raves about how much they want to murder their parents and kids who bullied them in highschool the moment they gain any amount of state authority in their power fantasies. You seem like you dont know what communism actually is and Im willing to be you dont read and instead get your worldview from theater kids on youtube making skit filled, hour+ long videos applying vague marxist jargon onto recognizable 2000s pop culture that would be recognizable to the average zoomer.
>>18753725It didn't collapse into a communist utopia though.
>>18754377This was the 90's they had killed communists for ten years uninterrupted almost invisible to history
>>18754017You misunderstood me, I brought up the criticism of authoritarian practices because of how many of the people making those criticisms support their own authoritarian ideologies. It wasn't a cope i was illustrating hypocrisy.
>>18754017>You seem like you dont know what communismI very likely have a deeper understanding of it than you do.
