>Not a single verse that says Jesus is equal to God >Not a single verse that says Jesus is eternal>Not a single verse that says Jesus is the same God as the FatherWhat we have instead is:>The Father is greater than Jesus>The Father is the God of Jesus>The Father has begotten, created, sent, and given authority to Jesus>Somehow I'm a heretic for believing that Jehovah is supreme over the Son
>>18756038>yahweh desires the foreskins of infants>jephthah sacrifices his daughter to yahweh as a burnt offeringlooks like yahweh is a dark hell-spawned demon and anyone who worships him is a < 85 IQ NPC who has been cursed by schizobabble from the middle east
>>18756111Bla bla bla
>>18756038Dumbass
>>18756239John 17:22-23>I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.Does this mean the disciples are God too?
>>18756243Yes, the body of Christ is the one true living God. That is Christianity 101.
Guards gets this heretic outta here
>>18756239One what ?
>>18756249Ok then God, go and heal a cripple and give vision to the blind, go rebuke the nations and bring them to their needs. Go ahead God and make all the nations tremble.
>>18756249God asked: Do you have an arm like mine, and can your voice thunder like this?Then adorn yourself with glory and splendor, and clothe yourself in honor and majesty.Unleash the fury of your wrath, look at all who are proud and bring them low,look at all who are proud and humble them, crush the wicked where they stand.Bury them all in the dust together; shroud their faces in the grave.Then I myself will admit to you that your own right hand can save you.
>>18756257That is exactly what the children of God did, capitalizing on their gifts of the Spirit, and brought the rule of God to every corner of the earth. Sadly, at the peak of their power, they decided in their hubris to extend the definition of God's children to include dark hell-spawned demons, and their dominion has been in decline ever since.
>>18756261What you are describing is the fourth empire.>Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.>“In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
>>18756277>ironI said Spirit because Spirit is correct. Many deny the Spirit while enjoying its fruits, but without it there would be no technology or civilization.
>>18756286Whatever you say Jimbo.
>>18756261lmao but didn't jesus tell them to make disciples of all nations?
>>18756313All nations should teach that God's children in Christ are the living body of the one true God.
>>18756341
>>18756341>Jesus denies being a spirit (Luke 24:39)>God is spirit (John 4:24)Jesus is not God
>>18756349>>18756342I explained it for you here >>18756249 in a way that even a retard such as yourself should be able to grasp.
>>18756366Show me the holy book that says the children of angels are the people of God.
>>187563681 John 5:19John 3:5
>>18756372Don't be lazy, write the verses.
>>18756375John 15:19
Jw you're a piece of shit liar son of a liar I say this out of brotherly love, repent and abandon your j(e)wish ways
>>18756379You know you can't find it because it's a theology you pulled out of your rear end.
>>18756382Peace be upon your hate-filled heart
>>18756249>the body of Christ is the one true living GodChapter and verse. King James.
>>18756401Kjv is a false translation. Enjoy hell
>>18756401its literally basic Christian theology 101Why do you even bother debating the subject when you don't even know the very basics?
>>18756429>>18756317
>>18756249Thanks. Now that you accepted me as your god, livestream yourself eating shit and yelping like a puppy, for such is the ultimate action of sanctity. Refusal to comply to your god's direct orders shall be considered blasphemy against he Holy Spirit.
>>18756429Is that AIslop? :-)
>>18757104t. Shit for brains
>>18757112Romans 2:3 :-)
>>18757120Rejecting truth because it comes in a certain medium makes you a cretin
>>18757123Oh really? :-)
>>18757126Yup!
>>18756249You're not white.
>>18756368It's a brown kid LARPing as a Christogenea retard. Don't make the mistake of trying to engage with it, just remind it it isn't white.
>>18757161>>18757184Dark hell-spawned demons are not children of God.
>>18756254Whatever you want it to be. Christianity is a flexible religion.
>>18757525>>18756254>failing this hard at basic english language literacy
>>18757433>Dark hell-spawned demons are not children of God.Yeah, you're not. >IrynaWasn't she orthodox? Can I get a fact check on this? If so, I've got bad news for you buddy.
>>18756243"that they may be one as we are one" doesn't mean Christians are God. It means Christians are one because they are part of the body of Christ.Read these and check the links, there are plenty of verses showing that Jesus Christ is God. If you deny that you deny what Jesus Christ is saying, and you agree with the Pharisees who were against Jesus because Jesus claimed to be God, and equal with God.If you say Jesus is God, you are with the Pharisees, trying to stone Jesus for saying He is a liar.The Trinity is the true nature of God, that was hidden in the Old Testament (though it was hinted at), but revealed in the New Testament.John 1:1-2: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God."John 1:14 “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”>>18757295>>18756880>>18756600>>18756552Isaiah 9:6, 7, “For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given… and His Name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” Only the Lord God Himself could be the fulfillment of these names. Wonderful – Only God is truly wonderful. See Luke 18:19, none good save the Lord God. Counsellor – Only the omniscient God could be the perfect Counsellor, Psalms 16:7. The Mighty God – The One prophesied to be the Messiah was to be God Himself. The Everlasting Father – John 10:30, Jesus said, “I and My Father are one.” In this text Jesus as man was born but Jesus as God was “given.” (God always existed.)
>>18757738>If you say Jesus is God, you are with the PhariseesMeant to say if you say Jesus is not God, you agree with the Pharisees. They didn't say "One what? One organization?", they understood what Jesus meant because it's common sense.www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntchttps://truthischrist.com/seven/
>>18757740No actually the retarded Pharisees thought he said he was God (just like you!), but Jesus denied that and instead told them he was simply God's son
>>18757743Jesus does not deny it. He clearly states that he's God in John 1:1. Enjoy burning.
>>18757745John 1:1 is not even Jesus' words and the word there clearly means just divine. That being said don't run from the verses I brought up. He explicitly rejects their accusation and corrects them on what he actually said. He even explains that they are called gods. It would make absolutely zero sense to use that example and not affirm their false understanding if he actually agreed with them
>>18757743>but Jesus denied thatNo He did not.Could you please explain what it was the Pharisees misunderstood and what they were misunderstanding to cause them to say what they did about Jesus’ claim?From the New World Translation perspective, what is it about saying, “I have been” (John 8:58) that would motivate the Jews to want to kill Jesus?What was it about what Jesus said in John 8:58 that caused the Pharisees to want to kill Him?What was it that Jesus had said or done that caused the Pharisees to say that He was claiming to be God in John 10:33?The Pharisees clearly thought Jesus was claiming to be God, and wanted to stone Him for that. The Pharisees did not think that Jesus was God.
>>18757750>John 1:1 is not even Jesus' wordsJohn 1:1 is Jesus.>the word there clearly means just divine....Right, he's God.>He explicitly rejects their accusationNo, he doesn't. They correctly understood that he was calling himself God and tried to kill him. Funny, Christ rejecting Jews understood his words better than you do. We can therefore safely conclude that God's spirit has no home inside of you. You know what that means, right? :)
>>18757754>Could you please explain what it was the Pharisees misunderstood and what they were misunderstanding to cause them to say what they did about Jesus’ claim?I highlighted it for you. The Pharisees just like you believed he was claiming to be God because they butchered scripture and didn't understand what Jesus was saying (it happened all the time). Jesus explains that no actually even they are called gods in scripture and this doesn't mean they are the one true God just like it doesn't mean the same for him. Later on he explains that they have zero grounds to even accuse him of blasphemy because he just said that he was God's son and not God.>John 8:58Don't run to another verse. But again this wasn't a claim to the divine name nor was it a claim of literal preexistence. Just like them you misunderstand Jesus>>18757755>John 1:1 is Jesus.No it's a verse written by someone who believes in middle platonism. Nothing there is attributed to Jesus. Again don't run deal with the verses I brought up>They correctly understood >Christ rejecting Jews understood his wordsAnd there you go, you just admitted that you are exactly like the retarded Pharisees who constantly got what Jesus was saying wrong. Thanks for playing
>>18757770I didn't read Jesus calling Thomas a retard when He worshipped Him as God.
>>18757770>No it's a verse written by someone who believes in middle platonism.Honestly it would just be more intellectually honest to say >I hate Jesus, I hate God, and I hate the Bible. Nothing will ever make me believe in them. I choose Hell.Why is that so difficult for you? Why do you spend so much time crafting this mythology around yourself that you've seen through it all? You're not fooling anyone, yourself least of all. "Middle Platonism" what a pseud. Keep stoking those flames, retard.
>>18757770“‘You are My witnesses,’ declares the Lord [YHWH, or Jehovah], ‘And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me,'” (Isaiah 43:10)The word for “God” here is the simple Hebrew “el.” The most basic word for “god” and the same word used of the Messiah in Isaiah 9:6. If Jesus is the Messiah, He is the “Mighty God” or the “el gibbor,” and He is to be called upon as such. But there is no other true, living God besides Jehovah. There is no “el” but He, and His people are surely not to call on a false god for their deliverance. Thus, even standing on its own, Isaiah 9:6 is rather clear that the Mighty God on whom they are to call is Jehovah and not some lesser god that would by definition be a false god since there is only one true God and never will be another. Still, Isaiah didn’t stop writing at 9:6. In the very next chapter he says:“Now in that day the remnant of Israel, and those of the house of Jacob who have escaped, will never again rely on the one who struck them, but will truly rely on the Lord [YHWH, or Jehovah], the Holy One of Israel. A remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob, to the mighty God,” (Isaiah 10:20-21).Who are they returning to? To the Lord, Jehovah, the one true God of Israel. Here He is plainly called the “mighty God” [el gibbor] in the very same prophetic context as Isaiah 9:6. Indeed, only a chapter apart from it! Jehovah is the Mighty God. The Messiah is the Mighty God. There is only one God. The conclusion here is obvious. And the other prophets concur that Jehovah is the “mighty God.” Jeremiah, for example, pronounces:“who shows loving kindness to thousands, but repays the iniquity of fathers into the bosom of their children after them, O great and mighty God [el gibbor]. The Lord [YHWH, or Jehovah] of hosts is His name,” (Jeremiah 32:18).https://carm.org/isaiah-96-jesus-the-mighty-god
>>18757773Thomas never worshiped him. Thomas was so stunned to see Jesus alive that he praised the Father for the miracle he just witnessed. Read the context.>>18757774In other words you have no way to refute me, keep praising the dumbass Pharisees though I am sure that would work out great for you
>>18757779Yeah, and when atheist Bob accidentally hammered his finger and yelled "Jesus Christ!" he was just doing a little worship session.Thomas called Jesus "My Lord and my God.", and Jesus approved of that. There's no way around it.John 1:1-2: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God."John 1:14 “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”Philip 2:5-8: Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."
>>18757777Notice how you people constantly have to run to other verses because you simply cannot stand the fact the Jesus denied being God when he was explicitly accused of this. Okay since you believe the Pharisees were so brilliant can you explain why they had a problem with a messiah that was also God himself? How would it have been punishable by death to claim such a thing if that's what scripture teaches?
>>18757783>when atheist Bob accidentally hammered his finger and yelled "Jesus Christ!" he was just doing a little worship session.Atheists by definition do not believe in any God anon, they aren't worshiping anyone here. Is saying Ow! also worshiping the God Ow? See how retarded you have to be on purpose to force your pagan godman religion?>JohnAlready explained and you couldn't refute it.>Philip 2:5-8Jesus according to some books in the NT was the 2nd Adam and he didn't seek to be like God as Adam did when he sought immortality. Instead he remained humble and death had mastery over him. Can anything ever have mastery over God? Yes or No
>>18757784>>18757794Ok, if you don't believe Jesus when He says He is God in John 8:58 and 10:30-33, what about when The Father calls Jesus God?Hebrews 1:8“But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.”Oh wait, you're probably just going to turn that to "The Father is calling Jesus 'mighty' not God"When you just deny 90% of the Bible by saying things like "God" doesn't mean God you're really just giving it your own meaning and it no longer means anything at all.
>>18757802>John 8:58Already explained and you cannot refute me.>John 10:30-33Keep stroking the egos of those Pharisees you think so highly of. They were simply wrong as I have shown you. But if you insist on being retarded then why don't you worship the disciples? They were also one with the Father in the exact same way Jesus was>Hebrews 1:8Read Psalm 45:6-7, it's a wedding song dedicated to an earthly Davidic king
>>18757779>In other words you have no way to refute me,I already have. You lost. :) Enjoy Hell.
>>18757817Nope! btw I am convinced you're not even Christian just from the way you fellate the Pharisees
>>18757820>I literally can't stop thinking about sucking cockI know, you're a reprobate. I'm so glad I'm not you.
>>18757822>no substance>doesn't even attempt to take it backAnd yes you're gay for saying "Christ rejecting Jews understood his words"
>>18757826No, I'm correct that you're more spiritually blind than even the people who killed God. Hence the cocksucking bit.
>>18757833>actually people who butchered my godman were in the right so I will keep being gay for themAbsolutely satanic. Also God can't be killed retard, he's incapable of death according to the bible.
>>18757839God died. He will never die again. You, though?You're fucked. :) Tick tock.
>>18757841>God diedIs that you Nietzsche? Sorry but the bible disagrees
>>18757843You have a worthless brain.
>>18757845says the gaytheist
>>18757857I'm not gay.
>>18757862you didn't even deny the atheist part ahahaha I caught onto your larp
>>18757865It's 3am, I read that as "gay theist". But yeah, I'm not an atheist either. You're just braindead and projecting. When did you first develop a taste for cock?
>>18757867>I'm not an atheistYou are because you deny where bible that clearly states God cannot experience death at all. You're also gay for claiming to worship a man in the same breath.
>>18757879*yawn*
>>18757886>no rebuttalconfirmed gaytheist, tick tock
>>18757901Have you tried fucking men vs fucking women? Can you actually drwaw on experirence to make the comparison or are you just kneejerking your cock?
>>18757911No, now tell me why do you claim to worship a man? Do you really believe the being you worship needed genitals to save you? Are the testicles necessary for salvation? Was it the cock and ball torture that convinced you or what?
>>18757920Lemme put it to ya this way, a girl is like, whatever, a weird smelling sack that lays there and jiggles around while you shove your dick in her snatch. Ugh. BUT a guy smells so good and feels so solid and have so much more strength and power its like riding a bull I fucking love it. you should try it. plus cock is hotter than pussy.
>>18757923Enjoy AIDS.
>>18757936I'm AIDS free
>>18757937You may be but your BVLLs aren't
>>18756038Why do you believe a word of this old book?
>>18757816>Read Psalm 45:6-7, it's a wedding song dedicated to an earthly Davidic kingSo you're going to just completely ignore what it says?The Kingdom of Heaven deals with an earthly, physical kingdom, which is how Jesus Christ will take it in Revelation 19. The earthly, physical, Messianic, Davidic, Palestinian kingdom ruled over by Jesus Christ.This ‘Gospel of the kingdom’ – Matthew defines it in a score of passages – Mat 3v2, 4v17+23, 8v12, 9v35, 10v7 etc. In every case, it is a literal, physical, visible, messianic, Davidic kingdom promised to the Son of David, who will reign on David’s throne at Jerusalem – Ezek 37v25. The Kingdom of Heaven is not the Kingdom of God. The Kingdom of God is an inner kingdom. It is a kingdom "in the Holy Ghost," and there is no Kingdom of God outside the Holy Spirit. It is a kingdom of inner righteousness, inner peace, and inner joy.If you don't have anything from God inside you, then you are not in God's kingdom. That should be a warning to everyone who thinks it will come from the outside.There is a difference between the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ and the New Testament ministry of the Apostle Paul. When Christ was here on earth, He was "a minister of the circumcision," and the apostles He chose, while He was here on earth, were ministers to the circumcision (Gal.2:7-9). The Apostle Paul, however, was chosen by Jesus after His resurrection. Paul was sent primarily to the Gentiles. He was to minister to the Gentiles in Christ's place.Romans 14:17“For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.”That Psalm is talking about Jesus Christ, and in Hebrews it's talking about Jesus Christ.Look: "therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."You can't just say it doesn't mean anything. The reason why you can't make sense of it with your watchtower logic is because you don't have the truth. Read Isaiah 40:1 - 40:5
Now that the JWs are allowed to have blood transfusions, there are going to be even more of them running around.
>>18757802>you don't believe Jesus when He says He is God in John 8:58 and 10:30-33He doesn't say he's God in any of those verses.John 8:58 is about Jesus inheriting God's name (John 17:11-12; Hebrews 1:4-5; Philippians 2:9-11; Exodus 23:21), and John 10:30-33 is a claim not by Jesus but by other people. They're reminded that he's the Son of God (John 10:34-36, 20:24-31).
>>18758750They bent the knee because the feared the world more than God. God said the life of a being is in its flesh so we cannot consume it. In the book of acts apostles agreed that not eating blood was important enough to be included in the laws gentiles must follow too. So if you cannot ingest blood because you're ingesting another person's blood, it's only logical God would be against injecting it too.
>>18758888>because you're ingesting another person's bloodAnother person's Life*
>>18758668>So you're going to just completely ignore what it says?You're the one doing that lmao, Jews also believe it is about the Messiah and yet they don't believe it says their Messiah is God. What happened bro? Suddenly the interpretation of the Pharisees is not authoritative anymore? Take a look at how they translate it (highlighted). They link to the verse in Chronicles which states "Solomon successfully took over the throne of GOD as king instead of his father David, and all went well with him. All Israel accepted him" and the commentary from Rashi says this is about judgment. In any case it's simply divine agency which humans are capable of and even the NIV agrees>Psalm 45:6 Here the king is addressed as God’s representative - https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm 45%3A6&version=NIVYour theology has no legs to stand on, that's why it took you hundreds of years to invent it
>>18758888Idk if ingesting is the same is injecting, I guess Jehovah made those words sound similar in English. Sounds like a dietary restriction to me. Anyway where is it that Jehovah makes the distinction between blood and blood components? Or is that just a governing body decision?
>>18758926It is not a dietary restriction, it's about the sacredness of blood. You cannot consume another person's life force.I don't think God makes any distinction.
>>18758918>and even the NIV agreesAlright, I give up now. But just in case you want to, you can check out this site: https://kjvcompare.com/You can check passages like Hebrews 2:14, Luke 2:33, Deuteronomy 22:28, Galatians 4:1, Genesis 22:17, Genesis 1:27, Genesis 5:1 etc. its clear evidence that the KJV Bible is the word of God and the others are just corruptions of it.Examples of how the modern "Bibles" are just simply wrong.2 Samuel 21:19Goliath was beheaded by David over 30 chapters ago in 1 Samuel 17:51. While the underlying Hebrew also says “Goliath”, the correct reading “brother of Goliath” is confirmed by the parallel passage in 1 Chronicles 20:5. Mark 1:2Mark quotes two prophets, starting with Malachi 3:1 in Mark 1:2 before proceeding to quote Isaiah 40:3 in Mark 1:3. Modern Bibles suggest that Mark identified Malachi’s writing as Isaiah’s, which is an obvious error.Hebrews 3:16Modern Bibles suggest all Israel provoked the Lord and were not able to enter the promised land. However, Joshua and Caleb did not provoke the Lord (Numbers 14:22-24), nor did others, according to the KJB, such as Eleazar the priest, who also entered the promised land (Numbers 3:32, Joshua 21:1).Genesis 27:39In the KJB, Isaac blessed Esau. But in modern translations, he curses him, contradicting the Holy Ghost in Hebrews 11:20, which reads: By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.
>>18759190>Alright, I give up now.As you should because there is no way to refute me.>Its clear evidence that the KJV Bible is the word of God and the others are just corruptions of it.It's impossible for others to be corruptions of it since the KJV is newer than the manuscripts used by these translators. And I have shown you how Rashi read it, who lived hundreds of years before the KJV was written>7^7.pngCool! Guess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_19 must be true then too
>>18759190https://superiorword.org/errors-in-the-king-james-version/
>>18758935Why didn't you answer my question, are you trying to decieve me
>>18759284Enjoy burning, shitskin.
>>18759284There are no errors.Download this book as a text file from the bottom right (click FULL TEXT): https://archive.org/details/peter-s-ruckman-the-errors-in-the-king-james-bible_202301/page/22/mode/1upThen just ctrl + f and type the verse.https://nashpublications.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/King_James_Bible/Answers-to-70-Apparent-Discrepencies-in-the-KJB.pdf ctrl + f.
>>18759284>>18759619>>18759987It's called the "Comma Johanneum", a widely-attested forgery found in the KJV Bible and the clearest scriptural evidence for the trinity. One of the reasons why it still makes the rounds on the internet (apart from there being a weird cult of KJV-onlys). It's excluded in new translations like NIV>it is highly unlikely that the Comma Johanneum was originally a part of 1 John. None of the oldest Greek manuscripts of 1 John contain the comma, and none of the very early church fathers include it when quoting or referencing 1 John 5:7-8>Due to intense pressure from the Catholic Church and others who wanted it included because of its support for trinitarianism, Erasmus included the Comma Johanneum in later editions of the Textus Receptus. His decision resulted in the Comma Johanneum being included in the King James Version of the Bible and later in the New King James Version.>Of all the modern English translations, only the New King James Version and Modern English Version include the Comma Johanneum.>Some ancient scribe, either intentionally or accidentally added it to a Latin manuscript, and then that addition was copied thousands upon thousands of times. This eventually resulted in the Comma Johanneum appearing in the vast majority of Latin manuscripts. Whatever the scribe’s motives, it is absolutely wrong to add to God’s Word.