This the human Nervous System (soul) the top part is the brain, it is divided into multiple regions that create the subjective human experience, the back of the brain (among other parts) is responsible for projecting what you "see" (if you take an injury to the back of the brain it will impair your vision. The front part of the brain is associated with logic and coherency (it mostly turns off during sleep). The center parts control your emotions, damage to these regions will actually change your emotional intellect. Damage to the amygdala region has been shown in real life to cause individuals to feel less inhibitions and fear. The top of the brain controls the body, if you manually send electricity through the top of the brain (motor cortex) then test subjects involuntarily move their bodies but they usually feel it was a voluntary action (meaning, free will is an illusion) decisions are made in the motor cortex shortly before the "soul" even realizes it.The bottom of the brain contains memories, and electrical shocks there can resurface memories or create dellusions of recall (deja vu).The sides of the brain project audio, and electric shocks there consistently make people hallucinate noises or music.Injuries to the brain can change your personality or accent, anything about "you" that makes you "you."The tree or nerves below the brain send it signals that it "feels" but the brain itself cannot feel damage, only what it is told by the nerves.The brain relies on ATP to maintain electrical balance, it makes its own ATP with Oxygen from blood. If your oxygen/blood supply is cut off the electricity goes crazy, and the brain permanently fries itself in 5-10 minutes. >"Intelligent design." Lol.
It's crazy to me how if you look at the base level, everything is momentum. Literally just everything, even the mind is just neurons firing in your brain constantly, constant momentum. The chair that was one second ago isn't the same chair as now. Most coomers try and enjoy the moment, not realizing that there was no moment to begin with seeing as everything is momentum, criminals too. Yeah.. it's this perception that you have free will and that you have these moments that make criminal people. "I'm gonna coom" has some memetic undertones, "you" believe that you have free will and that you are gonna coom and infringe on good will. Hilarious stuff. Never trust what appears or is apparent
If you inject anesthesia into a nerve and jam its communication with the brain, a person cannot feel anything in the region that nerve reports for (i.e. a tooth being drilled). General anesthesia thay disrupts the brains own internal comminications systems causes a person to experience non-existence for a time lol.
>>18759300Not religious but this doesn't solve the Hard Problem of Consciousness though
>>18759327I think qualia is based on the person, what I call red may look blue to you. I think the solution to the hard problem is that we only exist subjectively within our own "world" that our brain creates lol.
>>18759330>what I call red may look blue to you.I've never liked this framing, because red activates the same exact cones in both of our eyes and they're both processed by the same neural pathways, so why should the color red look different for different people if it's the same mechanism reproducing the color red?
>>18759300That's great, but it's not proven. You're just peddling one theory among many.Correlation between an area of the brain and qualia doesn't necessarily imply physicalism. Read Bernardo Kastrup.
>>18759330Haha i forgot how gay this board is. Faggots be whining about muh nervous system next your going to tell me atheists aren’t all gay indians and trannys. lol get mogged NISSIAN ZZZZZZZ
>>18759336If you get a cavity drilled, and they put juice in your tooth nerve, it stops your tooth (and the region around it) from communicating with your brain, so why does that simple trick stop you from feeling the drill? It also stops your soul's ability to move the affected area of your face, because your brain cannot talk to that region, lol.
>>18759341who cares nigga philosophy is for fat faggots anyway maybe you should have gotten into goyball instead
>>18759344The best theist argument, ad hominem lol.
>>18759341>anasthesia works>therefore god doesnt realBrilliant. By the way, there is no anesthetic in Hell. And you'll never have as much as a five minute nap to take a break from your torment. Enjoy.
>>18759327There's no hard problem
>>18759345lol get droned faggot literal drone bait. NISSIAN Z RISE UP. cry some more fag maybe onions bot will save you
>>18759300There are many hypothesis for the "Hard problem of consciousness".it's only a 4chan autist's hubris to not only not understand the empirical scientific method. But to claim to provide a definitive solution to a problem as his shitpost, when there's still no consensus in the scientific community.
>>18759365pedantic faggot says what? lol drone bait go join your faggot philosophers while i put phonk music over your corpse NISSIAN Z RISE UP
>>18759319IM GONNA MOMENTOOOOM
>>18759387AAAAAAA NO NO DOUBLE WISHBONE SUSPENSION NOOO NOT MY BMW!!!! NISSIAN Z WINS AGAIN!!!
>>18759327Vox Day already resolved that.
>>18759365>hard problem of consciousness >empiricial science Lmao. Neuroscientists don't care about some philosophers cope about physicalism being the only correct scientific worldview, any dualists claiming there's a hard problem can't even PROPOSE a non-physicalist approach to it without sounding like absolutely retarded schizos>so uhhh there's a parallel dimension where uhh our feels live and our brain works like a radio that uhh sends signals to it from the body (This is what people who believe the hard problem of consciousness is a thing unironically believe)
>>18759449literal slop nigga no wonder you consume cartoons and anime
>>18759453>cope and seethe I accept your concession
>>18759455silly drone bait not every rebuttal is seethe. Maybe one day you’ll afford a nissian Z until then keep consuming my favorite little drone bait
This is the human liver.As the central bank of the human body, it is where the Abrahamic sovl, thinking, and decision making resides.
>>18759300what are you trying to debunk here?God made the system that eventually produced humans.idiot
Why does this nigga keep talking about "Nissian Z"? I guess he means the car model.
>>18759300Read Plotinus. Soul isn't your personnality or what you experience, it is the principle by which the body can live. The brain is an like an antenna for the soul: just because touching the brain rewires the person, you cannot deduce that it changes the soul; simply that the brain receives its influence in a different way.
>>18759449>fallacy of incredulity Why is the idea that the brain functions as a transmitter so ridiculous to you?
>>18761870Because you need to prove it using physical evidence and not just make unsubstantiated claims.
>>18762008I didn't ask you why you didn't trust in the idea empirically. I asked you why you found it so ridiculous.
>>18762017I find that all ideas that cannot be empirically proven should be seen as nothing more than speculation. The idea of consciousness existing in an alternate dimension is innately silly to me. But if you can prove it I'm willing to change my mind.
>>18762075To add, I find the idea of consciousness being externally driven silly because it's far too convenient of an explanation. We cannot empirically prove the existence of supernatural phenomena so we created another dimension that serves us as an explanation for these things. We explain everything as originating in this realm. It's just the idea of a realm of fairies used for other things, in this case consciousness
>>18761870It's not evidenced. There's no proposed mechanism, no model, no nothing.It's just a profoundly silly idea.
>>18761870The idea also seems super in conflict with how we know we can systematically influence or mind, by influencing the brain - with certain chemical or physical stimuli.I just can't get past the dumbass ad hoc assumptions you have to make, to explain that away, on the brain being a transmitter theory.
>>18762085>>18762421>>18762431So you're a positivist? Only empirical evidence matters?
>>18762444NTA.The only borderline scientific research that can prove some sort of metaphysics is Stevenson and Tucker's reincarnation research. I said "borderline" because while they have some cases that are difficult to explain without the metaphysics, the evidence is insufficiant for the mainstream. You know, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. But, if the research succeeds, it will turn pretty much everything upside down for the science.There's also the AWARE research that tests if people caliming they saw the room during NDA actually saw something, but so far no positive result in this regard.
>>18762444No.
>>18762444Oh no, he said the p-word, it's over for melmao, you retards are so fucking predictable you asked why transmitter therory was ridiculous, and I told you
Tell my why it's ridiculous to believe the contents of my fridge disappears and is transported to another dimension whenever I close the door without sounding like a positivist You can't
>>18759335Perhaps a more concise way of putting it is "the mechanism of the human eye sees red, but individual perceptions of the colour red are distributed normally"
>>18759449What's your problem with Platonic metaphysics? It's the foundation of major contemporary beliefs like democracy and civic nationalism. Do you think it doesn't belong in the philosophy of science?
>>18759300>physicalism is true therefore god is not realEven if i grant physicalism in this world this doesn't entail that god doesn't exist hell i can even posit a heaven. Its one thing to claim this is why you think this is the case but to act so smug and sure even when you are wrong is ridiculous You are such a fucking midwit and people think we are ready for a whole board just for religious discussion while people like you make the majority of religious discussion on /his/
>>18761870>dude, the brain is like, a radio dude, to like ANOTHER DIMENSION dudeCan you imagine someone saying this without THC in their system?
>>18763882Yes, absolutely. >>18762552Answer the question.
>>18762444Yes, if you can't prove your theories within the material universe and have to resort to creating an explanation for any unexplained phenomena by saying, "there's a different dimension that we cannot perceive and that's the source of all unexplained things, including God, metaphysical concepts and the source of consciousness", that's not evidence for me.
>>18763885I literally didWho are you trying to fool? There's no audience, you're just talking to me the fuck are you doing
>>18759327People will just claim it's solved and never elaborate.
>>18759327There is no problem and qualia aren't real.
>>18759300ALL humans are VICTIMS of God's insanity. As a result, there is no action done by any human at any point in time for which any human is at FAULT. The main psychological strategy of God is to BLAME THE VICTIM for all of the conflict, suffering, and death that HE CAUSED. Therefore, ALL HUMANS are not obliged to feel ANY guilt, repentance, shame, or remorse in ANY form under ANY circumstances whatsoever for ANY action done at ANY point in time—past, present, or future.
>>18759327Define consciousness and why a hyper-developed brain couldn't conjure it
>>18759336>God fearing, strictly sober Christian man works honest, hardworking job>Gets his brain fucking impaled by a massive steel rod while working the railroad>Instantly becomes a drunken, sociopathic schizo that only wishes painful agonizing deaths on anyone who’s not himWhere's the soul?
>>18765060
>>18765093Ad hominem
>>18765070>impale my radio with a railroad spike>UH OH, why my radio no work the same as before? your brain on materialism
You can't prove God, because God is not an argument. God is the sound premise of good judgement. Good judgement is the ego and the spook made one.
>>18765060Opinion too based for this era
>>18766129So the radio is broken both ways? If there's no way to access the soul, what's the point of treating it as a separate entity?Should we pardon the guy at the excuse of "his radio is broken" whenever he commits a crime?What constitutes a radio breaking and what doesn't?
