>R1b people speaking a western branch IE language that somehow found their way to inner Turkestan>Closer in genetics and language to proto-celt than any people in the thousands of kilometer between themHow and when did they moved to inner Asia and when? Did they taught agricolture and civilization to the proto-chinese? Most importantly were they white?
>>18772137>Did they taught agricolture and civilization to the proto-chinese?Are you mentally disabled? The core of Bronze Age China was thousands of kilometers to the East, what would desert oasis dwellers have to teach about agriculture to inhabitants of incredibly fertile river floodplains?Anyway, the Tarim basin was a satellite of BMAC and likely shared populations. When Afanasievan cultures conquered those lands you saw a shift in ancestry, and Tarim mummies go from almost pure Ancient North Eurasian ancestry to mixed with Yamnaya-likes. Later Iranics like the Saka and Yuezhi took over and shifted the population to that, then Dzunghars and Uighyrs and shifted the population to Turkic.
>>18772137>Did they taught agricoltureno>and civilizationnoThey did introduce chariots and cavalry, honey cultivation, and buddhism.
>>18772137They did introduce herding and dairying to Asia but it was really the mining they did in the Altai Mountains before arriving in Tarim that made them special. When they were still Yamnaya, their scouts somehow learned, maybe from communicating with hunter gatherers, that the Altai Mountains were full of naturally arsenical copper and tin, and at this point Yamnaya had even been experimenting with iron, although all their later conquests only required stone axes.So based on this hazy knowledge, they trekked all the way to the Altais and immediately set about mining arsenical copper and tin, just trading it to neighbors rather than smelting it into anything fancy themselves, making themselves rich, enjoying the lush meadows and valleys, probably not realizing that far away, people were making newly advanced lethal weapons of arsenical bronze and later tinned bronze with their ingots.This was all when they were still in the Altais, when they traveled to the Tarim Basin it feels like sort of the twilight of their culture. They mixed with the ANEs there who were for some reason beautiful and very white, with blonde and brown hair and deep set eyes, and they retained the Indo-European roots for words like Lord and Lady and Leader and Ruler (walo in Tocharian), but seemed to live a rather simple life before eventually the Uyghurs displaced them.Also of note is that everything they wrote was just Buddhist transcriptions, mindless copies, except one work: a love poem.
>>18772163>They did introduce chariots and cavalry, honey cultivation, and buddhismliterally all wrong except maybe honey cultivation, which is shit no one cares about.
>>18772147>Tarim basin was a satellite of BMAC and likely shared populations.Tarim was not a particularly high-concentration area for populations derived from Iran_N.>>18772170>They mixed with the ANEs there who were for some reason beautiful and very whiteThere are no Tocharian samples, you cynical person.
>>18772173 NTA, but perhaps you should research a bit more. The Yamnaya people already used horses (DOM2) for transportation, and Afanasievo would be no different. Although certain Catacomb peoples derived from the Yamnaya had proto-chariots, but chariots as such were introduced to the region by Andronovo and similar cultures.>>18772147 I don't quite understand this argument linking the Tarim to the Margiana complex. There is no evidence of an active presence of any BMAC population in the Tarim Basin. The BMAC-like ancestry found there was introduced later. The Tarim was Indo-Europeanized twice first by Yamnaya-derived populations (Afanasievo), and then by Andronovo-derived populations.This second Andronovo wave is archaeologically clear. By 1800-1400 BCE, in the second phase of occupation at Aketala Similar artifacts were also found at the Xiabandi cemetery obviously showing a network of contacts. This proves that by 1800 BCE the influence and presence of Andronovo had already reached this remote corner of the Tarim Basin since 1800 BC and bringing its characteristic agro-pastoral package. So if we're going to be fair about who introduced agriculture to the region, it was Andronovo, who were agriculturalists, not BMAC.
Bump>>18772147Did you forget the White Huns?
>>18772137>How and when did they moved [sic] to inner Asia and when [sic]?Around the same time and for the same reason that PIEs were moving to Iran and Europe>Did they taught [sic] agricolture [sic] and civilization to the proto-chinese?No, that had arisen independently far to their east>Most importantly were they white?Yes
>>18772173Honey is the nectar of the Gods.>>18772576My first thought. Haplo autism retardation again. White was south in their language iirc? There were 4 'hunnic' groups, red, blue, white and another i forget.I should reread modi's history of the huns.
