Among smart people, doctors have the highest rate of atheism, and mathematicians have the highest rate of theism. Why that?
>>18772396Mathematicians are smart enough to figure out, somehow, that 1+1+1=1
>>18772396I think in the case of doctors it's pretty clear. They see so many people dying that they assume there can't be a god that allows so many good people, and many times pretty young, to die and suffer.In the case of mathematicians the only thing that I comes to my mind right now is that many realize that the Universe is so perfect that some god must have designed it.
It probably has to do with the fact that some Gnostics are really into mathematics. Instead of seeing math as just applied logic and an abstraction to help better understand the real world:>Aryan observes the sun and the shadows>deduces how the sun and shadows moves throughout the day>comes up with a math formula to predict how long a day will last with something else he understands - like the water running out of a barrel through a hole at a consistent rate, which allows him to basically build a primitive clockThe Gnostic Jew on the other hand thinks that instead of math formula pertaining to these phenomenon aren't just abstractions to help a rational Aryan mind better understand reality. He thinks these abstractions are the real thing. That there is this God Formula out there, which can explain everything. It's a complete subversion of mathematics and logic. It puts them above reality and leads to insane Gnostic beliefs like that the material world is evil and the world of concepts is pure and good. But despite all that, the math they can produce can still be correct. Even if it's no longer even tied to reality. Like modern theoretical physics, where instead of using evidence, they instead come up with bullshit mathematics about "what seems cool" and celebrate that as real physics, even if it has no ties to reality, doesn't actually explain or predict anything, but as long as the results match reality (even if you took a way to get there, which wasn't tied to reality), they approve of it.
>>18772396Doctor's deal with death and dissect the human body during their training. They need to look at a human scientifically to combat illness so divorcing themselves from spiritual interpretations of the human condition helps in that effort.Mathematicians build their theorems on foundational axioms, sets of assumptions that are taken as true in order to gain insight regarding the system they want to describe. Assuming God is real is the ultimate real life axiom. >>18772493This "man" has 100% failed Algebra 1. Calculus is beyond his comprehension.
>>18772396Doctors basically see the engineering side of intelligent design and conclude this design is actually bad and not intelligent at all.
>>18772396Math comes from counting on your fingers, and has a lot of practical uses, so it gives the impression the world was made by hand. Doctors see all kinds of accidents and disfigurements, giving the opposite impression.
>>18772464Strawman fallacy.
>>18772469What does “good” mean?
>>18772508yeah man i mean i think my iphone is really stupidly designed so that means it suddenly randomly appeared out of some primordial goop
>>18772560People shit on apple for subpar hardware and bad ecosystem all the time. Just because there's a few cultists doesn't mean everyone swallowed the Kool aid. Why should a doctor praise a bad creator whose Supreme creation, the human is so flawed? This creator is not worthy of worship or he doesn't exist at all
>>18772560Your iphone was not created by an omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent being with infinite resources.
>>18772729You are guilty of blasphemy. Do you not deserve to be tortured in hell? Who will save you from the burning pit?What the doctor deals with is not the creation as it was created but as it is fallen.>>18772733It was created by a mind that designed it with purpose though?
>>18772753>It was created by a mind that designed it with purpose though?An omniscient mind that can spawn resources out of nothing and doesn't need to worry about costs or profit margins did not design the iPhone. Supposedly such a being did design Harlequin-type ichthyosis though.
>>18772763>if God why bad????This was not part of the world God created.
>>18772765The Earth was not created 6,000 years ago in 6 days with 2 people to populate the planet with incest babies.
>>18772766Wrong
>>18772396Honestly, probably has to do with difficulty overcoming seeing humans as some combination animal/machine. MD education is deliberately focused on making sure graduates don’t have a moral compass at the end. Math on the other hand probably requires a certain level of acceptance of mystery and study of ideas with no clear answer. The modern philosophies of both map in those directions, IMO.
>>18772396>Surrounded by death, bureaucracy, office politics>God doesn't existVs.>Wanting to learn the secrets of the universe>There exists an unexplainable and uncreated creator
Mathematics is the language of God.Doctors are egocentric niggers who think they are superior to Jesus because they can "heal" people, when everyone knows they don't do jackshit but act as a salesman for the pharmaceutical industry.
>>18772766This, it was created billions of years ago and then life emerged from a primordial soup and here we are. It's true because I read it
>>18772861We need to set our own thinking aside and trust the science
>>18772557white
>>18772396Nice claim. Now prove it.
>>18772396Mathematicians, especially pure mathematicians, work with a self contained independent of the material universe. Doctors spend their time dealing with bizarre, random, seemingly pointless, accidents of human biology.They will obviously incline you to one thing over another.
>>18772396Mathematicians care about truth. Doctors care about money.
Doctors are surrounded by death so they get a firm grasp on the reality of this world. Mathematicians live in their own heads, trying to grasp theory, so they become the modern equivalent of philosophers arguing about how many angels can dance on a pinpoint.
>>18772553How so?
>>18772857My sister's husband is a doctor and he does indeed have a bit of an attitude.
>>18772861>if it comes from a book written by a man its true, except the Bible, because it just is, okay?
>>18773190If math didn't exist doctors wouldn't have jobs.
>>18773278By this point poure-mathematics and the hard sciences are separated by at least a century. Without mathematicians medics would still be around, probably not nearly as effectively as they are today. But they'd be around.
This claim is bullshit and OP is a faggot with AIDS dementiahttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071796/the majority of doctors do believe in God (roughly 65% to 76%), with around 51% identifying as explicitly religious. Only about 11.6% to 12% identify as atheist, which means doctors actually have a lower rate of atheism than many other scientific fields.As for mathematicians, we're somewhat beyond what passes for "theism" and "atheism". We read Georg Cantor and Kurt Goedel. We know the Lovecraftian abyss of uncountable chaos outside our universe. Effectively we know gods exist and we hope never to attract their attention
