Dyerian philosophy and metaphysics remains unrefuted.The Orthodox Trinitarian God is the one and only coherent worldview paradigm and epistemic system. It has survived almost 10 years of debate against high tier intellectuals and academics, with many of them failing to even grasp the concept or need of accounting for transidental categories. The history of philosophy ends in the Orthodox Church, all dissidenters are simply coping or are intellectually dishonest. If you try and argue you will simply pre-suppose logic, btw When are you starting your catechism, anon?https://youtube.com/watch?v=QEPSQNaG848&pp=ygUfanF5IGR5ZXIgdHJpbml0eSBzcHZlcyB0aGUgdGFnINIHCQkpDAGHKiGM7w%3D%3D
>>18773046>The Orthodox...God is...coherentLmao
>>18773046The only reason Jay Dyer has an audience is because of Alex Jones and infowars.
Is it really true that the earth is flat?
>>18773051>>18773055>>18773058Weak bait and not arguments, try again
>>18773061Ok.The trinitarian God isn't orthodox.
>>18773061“And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.” (Acts 11:26)Notice they weren't called Orthodox, they were called Christians.
>>18773046>accounting for transidental>transidentalAs usual, Dyer bozo doesn't even know what these words are, or how they're spelled
>>18773065This is a assertion not a argument, try again!>>18773069Does the word Trinity appear in the Bible? Or a list of the canon? That is a Word-Concept fallacy too. Also the Orthodox Chruch considers itself to be the only truly "Christian" church anyway.>>18773070*transcendentalI concede that point, I was lazy and didnt correct that, thank you!
>>18773075>This is a assertion not a argument, try again!the argument is here>>18773069 which you already read and followed up with just an assertion with no argument.The bible says it's a waste of time to argue with fools.
>>18773061Arguments from faith aren't worth trying to refute. If you were open to logic, you wouldn't have that position in the first place.
>>18773081Again you are conflating the word Christian and Orthodox, they are simply referents, and therefore you are comitting a word-concept fallacy. Can you restate what that fallacy is and why it cpuld apply to your statment? Also I brought it up examples of key Christian concepts and theology that are not explicitly spelled out in the Bible, which is part of my argument, obviously. And the final point if my argument was that the Orthodox consider themslvles to be the ony Christians, and any referant in the bible is pointing to them, so you fail at a internal critque as well. That is three arguments
>>18773086Logic is what brought me to this position, how do you account for logic? is it simply something that just "is"? Is logic universally the case in all times? How do you know that?
>>18773100>Jesus says words don't matterWhen did Jesus ever say words didn't matter? If you can't follow a simple naming convention for being a Christian then you are more likely going to fall for these false man made traditions.How can you be a true follower of Christ if you can't even follow the traditions given to us by the apostles?2 Thessalonians 2:15"Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
>>18773100The argument that Orthodox most likely make against it is that their Icons contain the true word of God, yet the Apostles said that anyone giving you a different Word then what they were given they are cursed.Galatians 1:8-9"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."So have your icons and image worship all you want, but if it goes against the traditions that Christ gave us you are indeed going to be deceived by the Antichrist, being deceived by deceptive words.
>>18773104Which traditions? Do those include those that Paul passed fown to Timothy and he told him to lay his hands on those worthy, some kind of apostolic sucession perhaps? Furthermore by what epistemic criteria are we to judge that 2 Thessalonians is inspired scripture? Who complied the canon and who gave them the authority to do that?
>>18773107Where do the Orthodox say icons have the true word of God in them? Also are you aware the Bible is a type of icon as well? Do Christians have to be literate to be saved?Again you appeal to traditions and scripture but how do we know which traditions to follow and what canon? Maybe the Gospel of Thomas or Judas is true
>>18773109>which traditionsThe ones the apostles gave us.>Apostolic sucession,It's apostolic succession you dolt, learn to spell. And no, apostolic succession doesn't supersede the Word. That is why Paul explicitly states that anyone teaching something other than the Word is cursed.
>>18773111>Do Christians have to be literate to be savedDoes a Christian have to read to hear the Gospel?When has a person ever read something with their ears?
>>18773114I am on mobile and don't care to correct cope>>which traditions>The ones the apostles gave us.Begging the questionAlso Paul pass oral tradition as well to Timothy, where did that go? Perhaps at the church in Ephesus that is still there Ephesus?Both you and >>18773115 dodge the Canon issue because its a kill shot, low tier
>>18773130>Paul pass oral traditionAnd he included written instructions to not listen to anyone claiming apostolic succession that wasn't teaching the Gospel correctly, changed the Gospel, or changed how the Gospel was presented. That even an angel from Heaven teaching something else is cursed.Just read about Orthodox fathers and some of the crazy shit they taught and then you will leave the church.
>>18773132Again, which Gospel are we talking about here and how do we know?The Gospel of Thomas? Judas?
>>18773146Paul taught the Gospel is not complicated.2 Corinthians 11:3But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.You complicate it with your catechisms which take a year and to top it off you make people pay for it.
>>18773160Sorry friend but since you refuse to address my argument abput the canon, I willl not engage in your quote mine, sorry!
>>18773046I don't understand how anyone takes this fag seriously. I can't even watch him he's so cringe. Come to think of it, he's quite literally the most odious person I know of.
>>18773175>the most odious person I know of.The sanctifying power of the holy spirit...
>>18773061>not an argumentYeah, of course. It's a genuine question.After I converted, and found out about the true age of the Earth. I have been having my doubts about the shape of the Earth as well.
>>18773221He doesn't have the holy spirit. He's a hell-bound reprobate. Easily in the top .1% most wicked "people" in the world.
>>18773237says you lol
>>18773173Since you refuse to care about your own spelling you should go touch some grass.
>>18773256Says Jesus.
>>18773058Yes. Source: it came to me in a dream
>>18773075>Also the Orthodox Chruch considers itself to be the only truly "Christian" church anyway.It isn’t, I don’t even think it is a Christian church. Also this is basically Donatism.
