Let's do a quick thought exercise.I'll make it rather simple, for the... particularly not remarkable folks in this board.Sporus, a crude name imposed on him literally meaning "semen", was a slave boy in the 1st century CE whom emperor Nero had tortured, castrated, and forcefully abused to marry as his "wife", because Nero killed his pregnant wife just some time earlier.When Emperor Nero was killed, he was passed around as an object by other emperors to abuse, until ultimately emperor Vitellius ordered this boy to be brutally raped and murdered in a public display at a gladiator spectacle. The boy committed suicide.According to Christianity (which supports slavery), this boy who was systematically abused by everyone in his life is burning forever in Hell:- He took his own life, therefore he is in hell.- If he had not taken his life, he wouldn't have "prevented" more forceful sexual intercourse with other men, which Christianity also condemns to hell.- If he had somehow chosen neither, and endure some other extreme hardship in order not to commit those "sins", not only is Christianity suggesting this boy should be tortured further, it is also sending him to hell anyway because he (unwillingly) engaged in intercourse with other men and did not know Christ.Mind you, until very recent times, no Christian ever felt bad for this boy. Not the Byzantine Christians, not the Medieval Catholic Church, not the Enlightened Protestants. None. All of them saw him as a grotesque abomination and a prop around Nero's madness, because he was a slave, which Christianity suggests is a right thing. People feeling bad for this historical person is a very recent phenomenon, 2010 CE+. There is no theological argument or mental gymnastics around this. This single event is undeniable, definitive proof, that Christianity is Pure Evil.
>>18782933major heresies plaguing the modern church:1) heaven and hell are after death fantasy lands2) the body of Christ is a cracker3) worship isn't sacrilege4) dark hell-spawned demons are children of GodWho is to blame? I suspect jews, the enemies of God.
>>18782937Off-topic
>>18782937True. The body of Jesus is not for hellbent cracker chuds, She will judge all the dark-hell spawned demons (chuds) and end all Heresy. Christ is Queen.
>>18782939it really isn't though, because you think that christianity is the belief in after death fantasy lands, but that is heresy
>>18782943why did you post a picture of someone contaminated with the darkness of hell, the dark taint of hell-spawned demons. Surely you know that the light of God can have no such darkness, and that in Christ there can be no such darkness
>>18782946True, Her grace is tainted by the darkness of the dark-hell spawned demon (chud) which I replied to. Don't worry, She will bring Her kingdom to us.
>>18782951Ah, I see, you are pretending to be retarded. Quite funny, I doth laugh quite heartily at your clownish performance. Pray do continue, I could do for some lively entertainment.
>>18782933And you assume this actually happened why?
>>18782957>insulting Her wordEnjoy Hell
>>18782965>It didn't happen!Lol. It reminds me of Japanese denying the IJA ever did war crimes. I guess it's only fair, because both groups have done actions that our modern law has rightfully labelled Crimes Against Humanity.
>>18782967>I worship black vaginaquite jewish
>>18782968>Comparing something that supposedly happened 2000 years ago that was only written about years later to events from less than a century ago that were extensively documented at the timeYou might be mentally disabled.
>>18782972Vaginas are what give birth to children. How is the gift of life jewish...?>>18782974Both events are about as much recorded as each other.
>>18782977hey, if black vagina is your god then go ahead and worship it to your heart's content buddy
>>18782977>Both events are about as much recorded as each otherOh, so you actually are mentally disabled.
>>18782978No, I worship God and the gift of life to us. If you don't like that, Hell is some kilometres down there.
>>18782981Don't worry buddy, you can worship the black vagina along with the jews if that is your heart's desire.
>>18782986>worship the black vagina along with the jewsit do be like that though
>>18782944Off. Topic. OP is discussing the morality of Christianity. Your radicalized take on Christianity that didn’t exist until 100 years ago has no relevancy.Also enjoy hell
>>18782933>pagans castrate and rape a boy his whole life and pagan society was going to watch him get raped to death for entertainment>actually it's le Christians who are le bad because here are some lies about Christianity!!!Who pays you shills to write this insane crap?
>>18783061>actually its le pagans even though OP is implying pagans were also evil but I am a Christian and I am a third world turd and I understand things through whataboutism
Still not a single answer from Christians for this. I assume everyone concedes thus, that Christianity is Pure Evil. The derailment of this thread shows the lack of arguments.
>>18782933>This single event is undeniable, definitive proof, that Christianity is Pure Evil.No, it's not. Sending people to Hell isn't evil, you just hate God because he made you brown/short/low IQ/whatever. Grow up.
>>18783139Pure Evil denying it itself is Pure Evil, without arguments of course. You will soon be tried for your crimes.
>>18783146by who saar vishnu?
>>18783146saar
>>18782933Christianity isn’t evil. People are evil. No one who’s really a Christian is evil. That’s the thing. About 95% of people who claim to be Catholics, Mormons or Christians aren’t. They’re just using the title as a some sort of shield or security blanket or frat group like a lot of old people do. It’s a fashion show, it’s their form of social media. People who subscribe to organized religions out of freewill, meaning like they aren’t doing it because they were raised in it are just scared people. Very rarely will you see someone these days practicing any religion simply because they wanna be a good person. Don’t get me wrong, it does still happen. But extremely rarely.
>>18782933>According to Christianity which supports [HEADCANON]>Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. -Eph 6:5-9>although if you can gain your freedom, do so. do not become slaves of human beings. -1 Cor 7:21-23>Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair. -Col 4:1>the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious... for SLAVE TRADERS. -1 Tim 1:8-10>He took his own life, therefore he is [HEADCANON]Shows the verse supporting that (spoiler: you can't). besides Jesus would save that "innocent" youngster, not by the virtue of the boy's sufferings, but through His graceful hand. >If he had not taken his life, he wouldn't have "prevented" more forceful sexual intercourse with other men, which Christianity also condemns to hell.Deuteronomy 22:25–27 | 2 Women had sex but only one had committed adultery>which Christianity also [HEADCANON]>If he had somehow chosen neither, and endure some other extreme hardship in order not to commit those "sins",Already recycled untrue premises to start with>not only is Christianity suggesting this boy should be tortured further, This doesn't follow because the premises are wrong>it is also sending him to hell anyway because he (unwillingly) engaged in intercourse with other men and did not know Christ.No such logic ever written in the entirety of the bible for the both of these things, only makes you look like someone with zero clues on what's he's talking aboutNigga out here really be dropping a 2000 word limit essay just to yap on baby's first objections. Now quit being an emotional little baby and grow a man's brain.
>>18783178>>18783158Upon being condemned for what they are, the Christian can only think (genocidally) of others. Truly a vile cult.
>>18783221>Um no you're wrong because uhmm I interpreted the verses in my own wayShow me exactly how would Christ save this "sinner". Pro tip: You can't.
>>18783073>OP is implying pagans were also evil Nope. OP never even mentioned paganism. He's framing the discussion as just a couple of bad egg emperors and in no way tried to link their behavior to "pagan values"All he did was screech/lie about Christian values and pitifully tried to connect imaginary dots between the despicable nature of pagans and "Christians are bad" somehow >I understand things through whataboutismOPs debunked cope is nothing but whataboutism you imbecile
>>18783671>cope cow cannot show verse that says people who unalive themselves go to helllolYour deflection is pathetic. I hope that other anon comes back and wrecks you further>how would Christ save this "sinner". Jesus said the kingdom of heaven belongs to children for starters
>>18783700Sporus commited suicide at 20. I don't know why do I need to show the specific verse that condemns suicide when it's common knowledge the Bible says "THOU SHALL NOT KILL". Suicide is killing. And you can't repent right afterwards. So, shut up, little tiny insecure, boisterous Christian. It truly goes to show how "humble" you are.>>18783690I did obviously imply Pagans are evil you imbecile. I was condemning Christianity for not pointing out evil Pagans for the right things, and engaging in the same evil Pagans did.How is my argument "whataboutism"?
>I-It d-didn't happen!>I-It's not what the verse implies! Y-you're not supposed to apply causal logic!Uh-oh. Looks like some group is cornered.
>>18782933>According to Christianity (which supports slavery), Read Philemon>this boy who was systematically abused by everyone in his life is burning forever in Hell:Woah, we don't make judgment claims. Who knows what was going on in his soul? We only say that salvation is found within mystical body of Christ, but God is not limited to saving only those within it. It is the normative means of salvation, but there can always be extraordinary means.
>>18783744>Uh I don't know [therefore the entire cult of Christianity is pointless]I accept your concession
>>18783714>when it's common knowledge the Bible says "THOU SHALL NOT KILL".No, it does not say that. Otherwise you could not kill a plant. It says though shall not murder you simpleton, and even that is a rough translation with nuance that is not covered with the English word "murder"Ending your own life is not murder. OP post goes straight to the trash. >little tiny insecureWhy would I be any of those things?I curb stomped OP like a chad>It truly goes to show how "humble" you are.My humility is just fine. Jesus name-called the pharisees and mocked their intelligence all the time just like I'm mocking yours.He even used phrases similar to "have you even read the Bible" many times. Matthew 19:4"He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female"That was a huge insult: implying they haven't read the Torah. They were supposed to be the unquestioned experts who knew the scrolls up and down. >I did obviously imply Pagans are evil you imbecileNope. You didn't mention pagans even once. OP implies nothing more than a couple of bad egg emperors and their behavior has nothing to do with "pagan values"Why are all "people" who attack Christianity on this board such dishonest retards?> I was condemning Christianity for not pointing out evil Pagans for the right thingsThis is truly delusional. Christians point out pagan evilness all the time. I'm a Christian and literally pointed out the tragedy of Sporus in a thread right before you made your awful OP see >>18782354You probably got triggered from that very post and invented your copium topic as a response to me KEK!!!!!!!
>>18783783>You probably got triggered from that very post and invented your copium topic as a response to me KEK!!!!!!!Look I'm busy right now so before I continue my argument a couple hours later, I want to point out how much you really think you matter. I had no idea you even made that post, or even I care for, given this board likes discussing kids and rape all the time the statistical chance you were talking about it before I made my post is high. I decided to make my post simply because I had been researching if anybody ever felt bad for Sporus and so far it's only left leaning youtube comments. So, I decided to point out the Evil of Christianity.So, shut up, I'll come back to wreck your ridiculous insecure arguments in some hours, because unlike you, I have a life.
>>18782933>Roman pagans acting like gay pedophiles some how Christians faults
>>18782933> He took his own life, therefore he is in hell.The Bible doesn't say anything about the judgement of suicide. The only reason people think it's a sin is because they categorize it as murder. Samson's suicide was considered virtuous and God granted him the strength to do it. It's obviously more nuanced than that. > If he had not taken his life, he wouldn't have "prevented" more forceful sexual intercourse with other men, which Christianity also condemns to hell.He didn't commit the act if he was forced. Do you actually think that's how it works? In Deuteronomy 22 it's said that adultery is punishable by death, but if a married woman is raped she did nothing wrong. By the logic you're trying to impose onto Christianity they would've considered it adultery and killed her for being involved. > If he had somehow chosen neither, and endure some other extreme hardship in order not to commit those "sins", not only is Christianity suggesting this boy should be tortured further, it is also sending him to hell anyway because he (unwillingly) engaged in intercourse with other men and did not know Christ.In Romans 2 Paul says people who don't have the law are a law to themselves. They're held accountable to their conscience. It's a relatively new idea that knowing Christ is a virtue in itself and people are held accountable to not being introduced to Him. It's not biblical.Pagans do something horrible and the same religion that made this sort of thing (among other atrocities) socially unacceptable is called evil for it. Isn't the religion that didn't condemn this pure evil? The moral standards you're going by are Christian anyway. You can't explain why this is inherently wrong if there's no God and nothing matters. And the type of slavery that is suggested to be acceptable had rules. They were still considered people with rights and were supposed to be treated fairly.
>>18782933that reality is pure evil. and those are not people but misshaped human cells. law has to outbalance primitive human emotions or the mob, as such it would have to show mildness in its conviction against inhumanity. but i dont think it would be bad if they would have been ordered to a death sentence, with the exception, that it would be too mild.
>>18783795>the statistical chance you were talking about it before I made my post is highNo, Sporus is only mentioned about a dozen times in the archives this year. It's a huge "coincidence" you mentioned him the literal day I did in a manner explicitly attacking Christians just a few hours after I promoted Christian values over pagan evilness using the story of Sporus. That is an astronomical "coincidence">I decided to make my post simply because I had been researching if anybody ever felt bad for Sporus and so far it's only left leaning youtube commentsHAHA!!Such a clever lie you have. First, YT comments are not searchable so you clearly didn't go looking, you just noticed them in a video about Sporus or Roman probably. Second, YT comments cannot be linked, so you have a perfect excuse to say you can't provide evidence.Third, you have no idea if they were Christian comments or not. Fourth, if your only example of ANYBODY mentioning Sporus and "feeling bad" is YT comments, then you now have to include my comment as a Christian example since it is also an anonymous internet comment just like YT. Your entire OP is now debunked because I am the exact example you cried didn't exist and argued said lack of existence makes Christians "evil"Wew lad the irony..>So, I decided to point out the Evil of ChristianityNo, basically all you did was lie while ignoring the evils of pagansIt was pathetic and there's a near certain chance you did it because you got triggered over my post. >I have a life.You're making a thread on an internet basket weaving forum crying/lying about Christians for some imaginary reason because some poor kid was grotesquely abused by pagans 2k years agoYou have no life
>>18784443Listen I want it to make known that I actually in real life think you're a fucking fat retard. Go take a shower. OBVIOUSLY I found the comments under Sporus related videos, moron, it's what prompted my curiosity to know if anybody ever felt bad for him before. Secondly, making a thread on 4chan (you're not cool for saying [nationality] [sport or occupation] [verb] forum) takes as much effort as downloading a picture by googling up "Sporus" and then taking 2 minutes to write.And last but not least, again, I did not see your stupid fucking post on whatever thread it was (because I'm not even opening it) and I do not think you're anybody of importance. So fuck off, dear Latinx keyboard warrior.So, shut up, I know I struck a nerve, but shut up.
>>18783812>christian reading comprehension on display
>>18784572The premise is fundamentally flawed and this thought experiment is faulty by its premise. due to the systemic abuse that the victim in this case 'Sporus' suffered from occurring under roman pagan rule(I specifically highlighted Roman pagan rule, since other forms of paganism were not involved in this situation) and not Christian rule. Evil can be naturally defined as engaging or permitting unnecessary harm onto an individual, Christianity can not be held accountable for the actions of Nero and abuse of Sporus since it lacked any real militaristic or institutional power to prevent or stop the abuse.Furthermore, Christians Condemn all actions engaged in this scenario. Homosexuality(condemned), rape by an older man to a younger man (condemned), the slavery permitted in the old testament is more relating to physical labour, and acts of sexual abuse related to slavery (condemend)Christians also view Nero as an incompetent and fundamentally evil emperor due to the monstrous acts permitted in his reign not just the abuse of Spores. the notion no Christian has never felt bad for the boy is also never backed up by clear evidence, and from what we can assume based on existing Christian text we can established in the paragraphs above would be viewed as a clear sin.(You are invited to provide any evidence of Church officials or major Christian figures permitting Sporus abuse as either necessary or good)Finally, the lack of attention towards sporus simply comes from him not being involved with the Christian faith that's it. Christians are as morally culpable to his abuse by nero as any other religion (world and small scale).You are gay and retarded, much like Nero.
>>18782937Slop
>>18784485>OBVIOUSLY I found the comments under Sporus related videos, moron, it's what prompted my curiosityThat is exactly what I predicted and it is exactly what suggests you didn't actually go looking for Christian comments and dishonestly used that lack of comments as "evidence" against ChristiansWhy are you seething? You're just pointing out my prediction was spot onDoes that make you mad?>Secondly, making a thread on 4chan (you're not cool for saying [nationality] [sport or occupation] [verb] forum) takes as much effort as downloading a picture by googling up "Sporus" and then taking 2 minutes to writeYou keep responding to my comments within 5 to 30 minutesYou have no life>And last but not least, again, I did not see your stupid blah blah blahI obviously I don't believe youThe "coincidence" is astronomical as I demonstrated. Either way I debunked your pathetic OPI am a Christian pointing out the tragedy of Sporus after you screeched Christians didn't do that therefore we're "evil" (and made up a bunch of insane lies). You're simply dodging this and seething about petty thingsIn no way did you blame or point fingers at paganism for these vile acts by pagans and their system either.You took the vile behavior of pagans and used insane mental gymnastics to try (fail) and make Christians look "evil"PatheticYour invented excuse that Christians are evil is debunkedOP goes into the trashYou loseCope
>>18784658>the notion no Christian has never felt bad for the boy is also never backed up by clear evidenceI pointed out I'm a Christian and mentioned the tragedy of Sporus in a thread literally just a few hours before OP made his and the moron OP completely ignored it as if it didn't matter.When he acts like direct counter evidence does not matter it means he's probably a paid shill
>>18785038The comment point was general. I said "people" never felt bad for this boy until well into the 2010s. Those people could be christians, feminists, atheists, or else. My point was most christians simply saw him as a grotesque prop around Nero's antics. You latinx people lack reading comprehension and are not worth arguing with.
>>18784658This is a consistently 90 IQ word wall. Like, genuinely. The point is that under consequential axioms and logic, Sporus is in Hell according to Christianity. Not that Christianity was at fault for his suffering. Sporus is innocent and was abused, and Christianity has him in hell. Therefore, Christianity is Pure Evil. Simple as. Dumb latinxes, sigh.
>>18784278>The moral standards you're going by are Christian anyway. You can't explain why this is inherently wrong if there's no God and nothing matters.Into the trash it goes. Your beloved Christian morals are ancient Zoroastrian morals and furthermore, many of which are simply universal human morals. Nobody in this planet considers what Nero did to Sporus good, but under different reasons. People universally don't like children getting abused because it is harmful to our society. I know you're a Christian/psychopath and would do terrible things if not for the book, but most people are against those terrible things. The rest of your argument is "blah blah uhmmmmmnnng nyyogh chrishchianity doeshnt condemn it" even despite the overwhelming evidence supporting Christianity condemning Sporus to Hell.
>>18783061He's a jeet.He does it for free.
>>18785105>You Christians are pure evil and need to see that.>No, we are not pure evil! We want to genocide an entire race of 1.9b people! You cannot call us pure evil!?
>Gets called out for being a jeet>Interprets it as a Genocide>tfw being a jeet is equal to mass murder-10000000 izzat o algo.
>evading with humorok. christianity is still objectively pure evil. the fact christians have now resorted to calling me indian really just shows the complex thoughts going in their minds.
>saar, pls take my abysmal dogshit of an opinion seriouslyno
>uhm nookChristianity is pure evil, settled.
>>18785088>The comment point was general. I said "people" never felt bad for this boy until well into the 2010s>Those people could be christians, feminists, atheists, or elseBut OP is only seething about Christians, not any of those other groups, and painfully avoids placing blame on pagans and/or pagan society that tolerated the abuse>My point was most christians simply saw him as a grotesque prop around Nero's anticsYou provided no evidence of this nonsenseHence OP is a low IQ shill... probably brown and paid for posting such nonsense too>>18785093>Sporus is in Hell according to ChristianityNopeYou never supported that nonsense claim when others asked you to so your claim is instantly dismissed. Moreover, you pathetically deflected the burden of YOUR claim ont others like a classic dumb shill
Imma be real with ya, I don't give a shit about some slave from 2000 years ago.
>>18785438That was the initial claim in the whole fucking thread. That Sporus is in Hell according to Christian logic, and therefore if Christianity was real, it would be Pure Evil for that. It's not about what happened to Sporus but what Christianity does about it. Given your inability to understand this, which I am compassionate towards (because unlike Christians I have basic human empathy); either due to your Latinx descent or being genuinely, mentally challenged, I assume you're not really understanding the conversation, and you keep muttering the word pathetic for some reason. Is everything ok? You don't have to stand down when people call you pathetic and then channel your inner rage on the internet.Also, I am the OP.
>>18785908>That Sporus is in Hell according to Christian logicNope. Christian logic does not say that. You have never provided evidence of this nonsense claim despite multiple people telling you to provide evidence>It's not about what happened to Sporus but what Christianity does about itYou also failed to provide evidence Christians use him as a "prop"You lost in every conceivable way and OP goes right to the trashCope harder, pathetic seething retard
>>18785908>basic human empathy
>>18786413This is boring man. I want an actual christian to respond.
>>18782946this is the shit /his/ has to deal with
>>18787161>shill still cannot provide evidence for any of his nonsense claims Do you get paid to attack Christianity?Are you Indian?