Why do pagans want to turn their gods into knockoffs of Jesus?
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>y-you want jewsHow vile
>>18783236Neo-pagans won’t be taken seriously, other than having a broken tradition where much religious knowledge is lost and just being used as a response against Christianity, as usually they place a benevolent nature and personal connection to the deities they worship which was inherited due to their Christian worship which is unlike other polytheistic religions with an unbroken tradition who generally worship the gods in hopes of swaying them/gaining favour with them and is usually of a transactional/unequal relationship due to their perceived power of the gods
>>18783236Why did Christians try to turn their god into a knockoff of Dionysus?
>>18783236A Neopagan's gods are just them pretending someone extremely powerful agrees with everything they think and holds them to no standard they haven't already set for themselves.>>18783307https://www.tektonics.org/copycat/dionysus.php
Tell us more what you believe neopagans think.I'm glad we have experts on the subject here
>>18783236Pagan Stoics were already saying this about the Greco-Roman gods centuries before Jesus of Nazareth was born
>>18783351yes? and?
>>18783318I’m not the OP, but you guys are a bad joke—why don’t you stop treating Odin like some popular, friendly god? None of you are part of the elite, nor are you rulers or warriors which, as it happens, were precisely the types of people who worshipped Odin. The average peasant would have considered it downright dangerous to "invoke" Odin for anything else.
>>18783236western pagans are not serious people. if you want to worship a non abrahamic god you should get into eastern paganism since the tradition is still alive
>>18783236Where the bible says Jesus loves you?
>>18783236Because they're all westerners who grew up in the Christian West where the only religions that are still around are the ones that go "God is good because he loves you :)" even though that wasn't really what most pagan religions had
>>18783236>Weird Pacific islander gook inciting Aphrodite Hermaphrodite, maybe, considering all of the lady boys in the Philippines. This mongreloid is honoring the wrong goddess.
>>18784133Who are you talking about? I dont worship Odin.
>>18784375>all of the lady boys in the PhilippinesThey're called Baklahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakla
>>18784416They really are some of the ugliest people on Earth.
>>18784133Your claim relies on a rigid, mid-20th-century view of Norse society that completely collapses under historical scrutiny. While you are correct that Odin was heavily tied to kings, elite warriors, and skalds, you are grossly oversimplifying Norse religion by treating it like a strict caste system where the average person was locked out of his domain. In reality, the line between a "peasant" and a "warrior" during the Viking Age was highly fluid. There was no massive standing army; the men who went on raids or defended their lands were free farmers, landowners, and commoners who picked up weapons when the season demanded it. When those everyday people went to war, Odin’s favor became immediately relevant to them.Furthermore, historical and archaeological evidence directly contradicts your idea that commoners completely avoided him. If you look at the Hávamál—the famous poem explicitly attributed to Odin—he isn't giving advice on how to rule a kingdom or manage a royal court. He is giving practical, street-smart survival advice on hospitality, avoiding sketchy situations, and managing friendships, explicitly directed at the average traveler. Beyond the texts, Scandinavian place names like Odensvi (Odin's sanctuary) prove that public, community spaces were dedicated to him, and everyday people frequently used personal names that honored the Allfather. As a foundational creator deity who shaped humanity from driftwood, he was woven into the fabric of everyone's identity, not just the aristocracy.
>>18784375There was never anything inherently ethno-exclusivist about the ancient Greco-Roman cults, though.
>>18783236Because they want to seem 'edgy' and 'alternative' but only in the most socially approved way possible. It would be generally hilarious to introduce one of these "Odin/Jupiter cares about you and wants to help you" nut cases to an actual ancient practitioner of those faiths.
>>18784779They’re all eclectic pagans on the level of wicca practitioners that go more on vibes, feeling, and aesthetics than actual belief and upholding the gods on a pedestal. I can respect those reconstructionists
>>18784795>setting up a 'religion' >that teaches nothing>requires nothing from them>demands nothing of them>tells them that they're all perfect and never wrong about anythingWhat, exactly, do you respect about them?
>>18783236Western modern Neo-Paganism is inherently flawed not out of any theological or philosophical blunders, but rather a lack of true emotional commitment not based out of resentment for the Abrahamic mainstream faiths. Zeus, Loki, bluh, bluh could all be real, but if there followers lack a true authenticity towards following them, then their religions will never flourish. Neo-paganism needs to start filtering the people their letting in, if they seek to gain a true religious front hold that will last long term.>>18784174he said it himself 'John 15:9–13 – "As the Father has loved Me, so have I loved you. Abide in My love... Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.'
>>18783236To be quite honest with you akhi they seem more spiritually satisfied than christians who operate on pure seethe, and actually believe the sky carcass and his jew daddy created abstract ideas like love, morals and spirituality. which is a laughable proposition, unique to them.
>>18784800I respect it as them reclaiming part of their cultural identity. Other than that, ‘Returning’/ reviving a broken tradition of paganism with accurate reconstructions of the various beliefs and rituals of them is such an artificial act in the evolution of religion that I’m fascinated by it.Wicca evolved from various superstition, idealisation, stereotypes and caricatures from the 18-19th centuries but reconstructionism is just people learning about combining ethno beliefs that was learnt through an anthropological lens that have ended or have been altered throughout time and reviving it to keep this old knowledge alive by actively participating in the rituals. It may or may not be a perfect recreation of course, they have to fill in some of the gaps and adapt it to the rules and regulations of our time.I can’t comment on the religious teachings and what they asked from their believers as they varied for each region nor if modern practitioner have genuine faith in it as you can’t calculate it, I believe the society one grows up in plays a bigger part in teaching people how to act, non-ethnic religions are a shortcut for cultures to play catch up with the most successful society around them without their culture and religion having to go through the turmoil to get there like a successful one.
>>18783236Jesus is literally a knockoff of Zagreus-Dionysus and the pagan Stoics were already saying “[insert god here] loves you”.
>>18784851One shared miracle and writings around Dionysus doing the 'water to wine trick' coming after the finalizations of the gospels. Other way around
