Mexico lost roughly 55% of its territory, including Texas, California and the entire Southwest.Why didn’t Mexicans become permanently hostile toward the US and make recovering the lost territories a national obsession?Why no constant border incursions, insurgencies, military buildup or attempts to exploit American weakness?
>its territory
>>18786864>Labeled Causes and Results>Only shows results
>>18786868Are you braindead enough to think that should read "it's territory"?
>>18786864The idea that peoples of the dark races can own property is a heretical blasphemy promulgated by jews and the enemies of God.
"Mexico" had basically nothing to do with that territory. It was claimed by them when they broke free from the Spanish Empire. The territory was very sparsely settled by Spanish settlers, though. Americans put more people in that land in a few decades than the Spanish did in the centuries they laid claim to it.
>>18786870Mexico's ownership of all that land was less than aspirational. California and Texas were Mexican to the same extent that Reimu is the wife of a /jp/ poster because he said so.
>>18786870No you stupid poopskin. He means that territory was barely "Mexican". It was barely even Spanish, let alone Mexican.
>>18786870It's more that the land wasn't Mexican in fact. They just had a legacy claim to it through the Spanish Empire, who did not make a priority of peopling the western part of North America so it was still largely unsettled by anybody but natives.
>>18786872>>18786878If not for Santa Ana, just to let you know, that where your feet are planted would be Mexico, correcto. No me digas "beaner", mr. Puñetero. Te sacaré un susto por racista y culero. No me llames "frijolero", pinche gringo puñetero
>>18786864Not many Mexicans actually lived in those areas in the first place, it was mostly Indians and the small number of Mexican settlers there already dealt with constant raids from the Indians. I can see why they'd want to wash their hands of the Southwest once the US became involved.
>>18786864>Why didn’t Mexicans become permanently hostile toward the US and make recovering the lost territories a national obsession?Because those territories were barely even mexican basically almost no mexicans actually lived there and the government had also basically no control over those regions.They also weren't that economically valuabe (at the time).So outside of the national pride being wounded and the mexican army and government being thoroughly humiliated not much revachism really formed on top of the fact that mexico never had ny realistic chance of actually retaking any of those territories in the first place.
>>18786879Mexico's claim was paper, I doubt if any body living in those territories even acknowledged their supposed authority, given their state was only 20 some years old at the time of the Mexican-American war. The people living in California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona etc likely still thought of themselves as Spanish subjects, or as free men, since they likely hadn't seen a tax collector from Spain in some time.
>be Mexico>your country only declared independence from Spain a couple decades ago>you claim all Spanish holdings on North America as yours by rights>don't actually have any real control over the territory though>and the people living there don't acknowledge your sovereignty over them>try to enforce your rights over the territory>lose the ensuing war>cry about it forever afterward
The US was in a race to seize California before Britain or France took it first. It had excellent natural harbors and was valuable real estate.
Colonial countries fundamentally aren't real "nations" and in fact the behaviour of Old Worlders belonging to authentic nations appears outlandish to New Worlders
>>18786864>Why didn’t Mexicans become permanently hostile toward the US and make recovering the lost territories a national obsession?>Why no constant border incursions, insurgencies, military buildup or attempts to exploit American weakness?because that would be fucking retarded
>>18786864it was pretty much a wombo combo of barely anybody lived in those areas to begin with and mexico being so politically unstable for most of its history (including before and after losing said territories) that they did not have the ability to care since they could barely keep what they had together in a functional state
>>18786943It's my morbid curiosity that brings me to this board. I come here to see mental illness, and I am rarely disappointed.
>>18786864>that is stolen landstolen from who?>the mexicansdid the mexicans live there?>no, the apache, navajo, and commanche didSo you want to give it back to the original natives?>no I want to give it to MexicoIs Mexico native?>no Mexico is a mixed race Euro-Hispanic stateSo you dont want natives to have it?>Mexica are nativesNative to where?>MexicoWhat part?>The Chichimeca desert and Mexica JungleSo not the South West?>noSo why do you want it given to them>?????????
>>18786864mexico had enough on their plate domestically that they could hardly concern themselves with mostly uninhabited deserts they had little will to colonize themselves. it was just redrawing lines on a map to rid themselves of future troubles with americans who were eager to manifest destiny all over those territories.
>>18786864>Why no constant border incursionsThere was actually quite a lot of that for decades after the war in the form of banditry but also military forces on both sides raiding back and forth in pursuit of bandits or rebels (from the Mexican side). Also you had a bunch of guns getting introduced because of the war. BTW a big chunk of that area was controlled by the Comanches who'd rampage into Mexico to kill and plunder and fought both sides.https://youtu.be/n_pLleIU41A
>>18786864>Why didn’t Mexicans become permanently hostile toward the US and make recovering the lost territories a national obsessionBecause they had 0 capacity to make that dream a reality. Do you even know what happened to Mexico after this war?
>>18786864The US did kinda go out of its way to not be total dicks about it. Sure the other posters have made perfectly correct points that the land was sparsely populated, more Americans lived there, Mexico had a lot of other things to worry about, etc. Just ask yourself why the Baja peninsula isn’t part of California. They basically asked us not to take it because people could look across the water and see their defeat. So. Not that it was all justified, but the US could have been a lot worse.
>>18786864>Why didn’t Mexicans become permanently hostile toward the US and make recovering the lost territories a national obsession?Well Mexico barely controlled those northern territories.Those were incredibly sparsely populated and the few who did live there were mostly natives with no loyalty to the Mexican government.Mexico, as a nation, also did not spend long controlling those lands. Mexico wins its independence in the 1820s, gaining control over the northern reaches, and lost them under 25 years later.There's also the massive power imbalance between the US and Mexico.The Mexican-American war wasn't a closely fought affair, it was a stomp. It was politically controversial in the US not for being costly, but being so one-sided it was viewed as immoral by many.Mexicans knew they could never get those lands back, so that was never a priority.>>18786864>Why no constant border incursions, insurgencies, military buildup or attempts to exploit American weakness?Mexico had way bigger issues to deal with in the 1800s than irredentism. Mexico was constantly in civil war in the early-to-mid 1800s, general Santa Anna overthrew the government like 14 times.Then they had massive debts, a huge political disagreement between the conservative, catholic, and monarchical forces and those who were more liberal.France invaded and tried to make Mexico into a puppet state led by a Von Hapsburg.And US-Mexican relations actually really improved in the late 1800s after the US helped president Benito Juarez kick out the French.And shortly after Juarez, Mexico was led by a pro-western dictator (Porfirio Diaz) until 1910.By that point, the US-Mexican war was so far in the rear-view mirror, no one cared about regaining lost soil
>>18786864They were only claimed on paper, more of it was owned by the Comanches and other random tribes than Mexico administered it.The Texas Republic and the California Republic happened because a few thousand Anglo settlers moved there and the place was empty.
>>18786879you don't tell me what to do beaner, now get back to mowing my lawn
