Circumcision is mutilation!
>>18787432Mutilation is a violation of consent. Circumcision is performed in violation of consent on newborns (they cannot consent).Circumcision on newborns is mutilation. Simple as.
>>18787451>>18787454>>18787457How can you get consent from babies before aborting them?
>>18787454why are americans like this
>>18787503Babies refers to a child that has been born; emergent birth of a new individual. Abortion refers to the termination of pregnancy.Babies don't get aborted. Simple as.
>unabashed snipcuck trying to banalize his baby torture fetishNero was way too nice.
>>18787451Mutilation is a violation of consent.Feeding and housing is performed in violation of consent on newborns (they cannot consent).Feeding and housing newborns is mutilation. Simple as.
>>18787542>Feeding and housing is performed in violation of consent on newbornsMothers aren't violating their newborns by feeding them and making sure they're sheltered. You're retarded. Simple as.
>>18787599Yes they are, because newborns cannot consent. It's just imprisonment and force feeding. You're retarded. Simple as.
>>18787604You make a strong case for why letting you live as a newborn was actually abuse. Your mother should be punished for this cruelty, certainly.
Maternal care for newborn =/= violationCircumcision on newborn = mutilation = violation
>>18787606No you're just buttmad because your idiotic "argument" can be used against you. Your strong emotional response + failure to provide a symmetry breaker is enough to demonstrate how I have just won. Concession accepted faggot.
>>18787610>babies can't consentYou're the biggest retard on this board right now to believe this is an argument. They cry when they're hungry and it's their way of communicating that they want food from the mother.
>>18787613Whatever you say pedo. Do you also believe animals can consent? btw the real reason babies cry is because they want to follow the eternal covenant of circumcision
>>18787620I accept your concession. >btw the real reason babies cry is because they want to follow the eternal covenant of circumcisionWhat a disgusting delusion. I believe that you believe that.
>>18787620Your concession is noted.
>>18787621>>18787622What concession ape? Your entire argument was based on the fact that newborns cannot consent here >>18787451 You had to walk back on that once I pointed out how stupid you look. You also didn't answer my question, now that you say babies can consent, can animals consent? Yes or No
>>18787627>What concession ape?The whole content of >>18787613.>You also didn't answer my questionNo need to. You conceded.
>>18787851>hallucinating pedoThanks for linking to where you had to walk back on your original retardation.>No need toIn other words you don't want to share to the world that you're guilty according to Exodus 22:19
Never do cosmetic genital surgery on newborns. Should be obvious.
>>18788027It's functional, an upgrade even
>>18787432People do make fun of people who tear apart their bodies like that though. You're acting as if they don't. I'm against circumcision and think people who fuck up their bodies with piercings and shit out of a combination of low self esteem and social pressure is bad too. One however is done by an adult who at least nominally knows what they're doing to themselves and it's their own body, It may be bad but they're only hurting themselves. Circumcision is done to others who have no way to say no.
>>18788037So we shouldn't vaccinate those that cannot consent?
>>18787604>taking care of an helpless offspring is the same as cutting of art of its generals. A Muslim or Jew hand wrote this.
>>18788042No please watch your child get polio. I will be far far away from you.
>>18787503Abortion is a jewish thing
>>18787604>false equivalence retarded pilpulAbort yourself asap, lead by example
>>18787514Thank you for your attempt at gas-lighting here today. Unfortunately for you, nearly everyone has memories and a vast array of historic writing going back into antiquity show people referring to persons inside the mother as babies. The trend of colloquially referring to such persons as a fœtus is very recent, and wasn’t standard use of language prior to the campaign to deperson babies for the purpose of promoting abortion.
>>18788183So now suddenly the consent of newborns doesn't matter anymore as long as you get to only violate certain types you agree with? Cool double standards bro>>18788184>>we shouldn't vaccinate those that cannot consent?>No because polioWhy? Circumcision is also known to reduce diseases but you for some reason have an issue with it.>>18788190Nah it just looks like you're special pleading instead. Now explain why your demonic kind is so eager to push for abortion too. Snipping a piece of skin bad but butchering a baby in the womb good?
>>18788042Vaccination isn't harmful and in fact choosing not to get it harms others, both in the immediate vicinity and society as whole.
>>18788247Choosing not to get circumcised also harms others so it should be banned. Just like choosing not to get vaccinated should be banned and punished with prison time
>>18788259Genital mutilation only harms the person being mutilated.
>>18788276Yes but that's irrelevant, we are talking about circumcision here which is beneficial to the person who is circumcised as well as society. Just like vaccination!
>>18787451>Mutilation>an act or instance of destroying, removing, or severely damaging a limb or other body part of a person or animalConsent does not change what it is. Without consent it is just mutilation, and the product of assault.
>>18788329Trimming a child's nails and hair is mutilation by this definition. Why aren't you out in the street protesting against that?
>>18788336You know exactly what the definition is but are playing word games with me.
>>18788345Yes I know the definition you're using since you just posted it and I used it to demonstrate how absurd you're being. Now go outside and protest against trimming nails like a rabid feminist. If I don't see you like this then you are just not serious
>>18788352No you're trying to get out of not supporting mutilating people by comparing it to cutting hair or nails.
Brainbroken Christian cannot think of consent unless it's inside of a sexual context. Tragic, but it does reveal a lot about him as a individual and where his mind is at.
>>18788356So you're just not serious I see. What's the matter your free bleeding protest looks idiotic?
>>18787627>newborns cannot consentDo newborns get hungry? Do they express a need for food when they need to be fed? The answer is yes.
>>18788361There is no protest, just facts. What's next? You're going to call skin cells falling off a person mutilation? You are retarded at worst and a troll at best.
>>18787511American women*Only men should raise kids
>>18788027Except if they're female. Africans and Muslims have the right idea.
>>18788370Do animals get sexually excited? Do they express a need for copulation when they need to mate? The answer is yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lordosis_behavior Are you going to violate them now and say they can consent too?
>>18787604>Yes they are, because newborns cannot consent. It's just imprisonment and force feeding. You're retarded. Simple as.I see a lot of retarded shit on this board, but the idea that feeding and sheltering a baby is exactly the same in terms of informed consent as mutilating their genitalia really takes the fucking cake.
>>18788373Skin cells falling off is a natural process that happens with no intervention while your definition specifically states it's "an act" and the example given in the dictionary you copied that from states it is deliberate. Not analogous at all
>>18787432>>18787451TRVKE.
>>18788239I'm against both circumcision and abortion Abortion is much worse but this thread is about male genital mutilation You're barking up the wrong tree
>>18788402What's the difference? Both are examples of consent being violated which was the point he was using to argue that it is mutilation
>>18788412And why exactly are you against abortion? We have to see if you're being consistent here.
>>18788406It is your deliberate choice not to save them then, you maniac, if we are using your "anything goes" mindset. Then I can blame you for each hair that falls from your head. Give me a break, you already know the value of all of these things. A troll at best, a desperate idiot at worst.
>>18788412Based
>>18788417We can't save them, they are genetically programmed to die. And you're missing the point you fucking moron this is YOUR standard not mine. It's an internal critique of your position
>>18788423You can not save them. But consider it a mercy, because they are surrounded by millions of their exact copies. The same can't be said for an individual human being.
>>18787503>How can you get consent from babies before aborting them?circumcision harms not as much the baby as the adult it will become. abortion does no harm to anyone. fetuses, indeed babies are not people.
