Same here . Watched gay porn all my life but still like women romantically and men only sexually.
Like yes , men are sexy but I don't can't fall in love with them , only women.
Also you can call someone gay only if they fall in love with another one of the same gender and are sexually attracted to it . 2 conditions must be fulfilled . Same with straight men and women

>>2710042
I find women attractive, but haven't had a crush as an adult, had high school crushes that amounted to nothing. I've had a few crushes on men, those also went nowhere. I did kiss a few male friends, just to figure how it would feel. My first kiss was with a guy.

Opposite experience for me: my first sexual and romantic attractions were gay, pre-porn. I tried to reprogram myself by jerking off to straight porn. It did not work.

I sucked my first cock in 4th grade. No porn or anything at the time, just a high sex drive. So no, porn wasn’t a factor. I think porn contributes and definitely normalizes the act though. It’s the gateway drug. But you have to have some curiosity to give it a try first, and you need to have an over stimulated addiction to the drugs (sex).

I do think I became at least bi through porn but mostly because I find it harder to find straight porn that isn't actual slop. If anyone here knows websites where there are lots of genuine homemade straight porn then I think I could forget all this or at least find myself less attracted to men then right now.

>>2710040
>there's no evidence for it
1. There is a lot of evidence for it
2. The average gay person will tell you they have always been that way

Personally I've never felt significant attraction to women and had gay thoughts as a child

>>2710049
I can't remember specifics, however I do remember when I did get into porn I intentionally sought the material out. I just typed "naked men" on Google when I was 11, and I just went with it. What has always bothered me is why I am like this. I tried rationalizing it with porn use, because no fap is correct, porn does change arousal patterns. Before porn I slept over another kid's house, won't get into specifics, but I did pretend to sleep while he did his thing, it is a regret of mine, but I was not thinking, I was giving into feelings.

>>2710061
The evidence they claim is tied to pre natal testosterone, but that doesn't explain why someone is attracted to the same sex.

I was first exposed to sex via magazines, tv and some blurry porn channels that had only women
Yet Ive only ever actually liked guys and then I switched to gay porn when it was available

>nooo, I'm not a faggot AM NOT it's all from pornmaxxing I SWEAR
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>>2710042
> sexual orientation
> homosexual

nothing to do with romance or love

>>2710096
Do you have anything substantial to add to conversation?

I was 100% certain I was straight before becoming a degenerate and hanging out on this site. Still never seen another cock but I'm no longer repulsed by the thought of satisfying one.

There is no such thing as "turning gay". Truth is, the human default is being bisexual. Well, maybe not "default" per se, but I'd say at least half of all humans have bisexual tendencies at the very least. Why? Because humans are social and sexual beings. We love being with other people, we love having sex, and we love watching other people have sex. It's completely normal for humans to get aroused when they watch others having sex, but it's actually not very common behaviour in other animals. And it's not that we just want to see the opposite sex - no, the vast majority of straight porn involves a man and a woman. Seeing both is usually more arousing for everyone. Because we want to feel pleasure and pleasure others. And everyone can make you feel pleasure, not just the opposite sex. Our sexual acts are not for the sole purpose of recreation, that's basically just a convenient side effect. We want to have sex and do sexual things cause it feels fucking good.

But the way we perceive sexuality is shaped by our society. While our caveman ancestor probably had constant bisexual orgies, a lot of later civilizations decided that homosexuality is bad, because it's something indulgent, a vice, something that only pleases us and has no higher, noble purpose and lead to degeneracy (especially among men cause they have a high sex drive). Well, whatever it was, it lead to us growing up today with the idea that being gay is bad. Ever since we are little children we are taught that homosexuality is something negative. "That's gay", "stop being such a faggot", we constantly hear things like that and quickly conclude that being gay is bad, and you need to avoid bad things. This is 100% learned behaviour and not a natural reaction. It's just easy to forget because this notion is so integrated in our values and society.
So we grow up with the idea that gay stuff is bad - but then we discover porn, and sometimes notice "wait, this turns me on" and people begin having a crisis.
Cont

>>2710129
>How could this be?? Being gay is bad! I've learned my whole life that it's bad! I can't be gay! No, this must be the evil porn corrupting me!
But that's not what actually happens. This is just you discovering your natural urges, which cannot be overwritten. You didn't "become gay". You have merely awoken something that was always in you, but you have forcefully suppressed all your life. You discovered the possibility that sexual acts with another man could actually be appealing, which you refused to acknowledge before, because you were taught to do so. But deep down, it's something you want, and deep down you know there is no real reason not to.

>But I don't want to be in a relationship with a man, so I can't be gay!
Here's another thing that a lot of people simply refuse to understand: sexual attraction and romantic attraction are seperate.
And this isn't limited to different sexes. Even straight people are have vastly different prefences between sexual partners and romantic partners. Every straight man wants to have sex with hot, young, attractive girls who are crazy for dick. Obviously. But is that their ideal romantic partner? Fuck no. A romantic partner is someone who needs to be compatible to your personality, someone who could bear and raise your children. The sexy slut everyone wants to bang will not do that. These two things are completely seperate.
In other words, being homosexual and being homoromantic are completely seperate things, and you can be one without the other. If you get an insatiable craving for sucking dick, but don't want to kiss and cuddle with another man, it still means you're not straight. You don't need sexual AND romantic attraction to be considered gay/bi, you just need one of the two.

TL;DR: You didn't "turn gay", you just unearthed your surpressed homoerotic feelings. And sexual attraction is completely seperate from romantic attraction so you're not "straight" just cause you also experience heteroromantic attraction.

>>2710057
Go for porn directed by women or search terms like sensual and romantic . I have found out that it is super sexy and beautiful
>>2710097
Of course it has . Who you love/fall in love matters to many people . Like it is one of the most important things.

>>2710130
My issue is I had a gooning problem at one point, but in the past I had non gooing urges. I still remember in 3rd grade, I made out with one of my guy friends. I just wanted to know what it felt like, I didn't even watch porn at that point. Childhood friend when I was 7 years old, he was 6 years old, I wanted to just sleep in the same bed as him because I had issues sleeping in my own bed alone for the longest time. So I have clearly done gay things before porn, the problem is I have no idea what caused it in the first place.

i've been calling myself bi since i was 17 and i'm 36 now, i haven't done much of anything with anyone cause i'm a socially anxious person who doesn't pursue sex but I've always been comfortable calling myself bi

i've had crushes on girls/women, i've had guy friends who went on to be gay and they were more the ones i got along with cause they were just more pleasant people, though there was one friend who i liked and wanted their approval badly and it almost felt like i was trying to make a relationship with them but it was always more platonic, i think i just liked their character more than anything

if given the opportunity with the right guy i'd probably go for it to try it out but i don't really want to be in a relationship with a man, all my irl relationship fantasy and most of my irl sexual thoughts have been about women or involved women, even if it's imagining myself as a woman being with a man, it's never me as a man being with another man

i have thought about playing the woman role in a sexual situation and been turned on by it, but aside from that i'm fine with being a guy and though i get jealous of the social relationships women have with other women sometimes i'd never want to actually be a woman, there are a lot of natural perks to being a man that i don't take for granted

>>2710040
>no evidence
Did you even
look, faggot?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31467194/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21315103/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0018506X19304660?utm_source=chatgpt.com
>>2710062
>The evidence they claim is tied to pre natal testosterone, but that doesn't explain why someone is attracted to the same sex.
The evidence is ultimately based on twin studies, and there are plenty of other genetic and neural correlates. What the fuck are you talking about? Stop putting your opinion into the world.

>>2710130
Incorrect . To be called gay or straight , both your sexual and romantic need to be the same for the same gender else you are bi.
I think for people it's too easy to just call people gay, just for having a sexual encounter with the same gender , when both conditions need to be true for a woman/man truly to be called gay.

i told myself that but honestly i think i was always bi. i used to always check out other boys and guys and i have memories of feeling turned on seeing guys shirtless or in underwear, but also was into women for a while and tried it. earliest gay experience was trying to kiss another boy on the basketball team when i was in school. i think over time i started to prefer men more strictly though and my porn preferences shifted

>>2710603
My opinion matters because it's my body

Definitely me. I don't recall any abuse, so I don't think I can blame that, but I was exposed to porn before the age of 10. What's interesting is it was my male cousin who showed it to me, and he's undeniably straight today. I don't think anyone is born gay, but I think we are born with a different tendencies towards deviance, and early exposure to porn can get that snowball rolling.

>ITT: Bisexuals discovering they're bisexual but failing to reach that conclusion because they've forgotten bisexuality exists for the thousandth time.

>>2710902
If that's the case, why did it happen before porn exposure?

Im 30 and have been straight most of my life. I got bi-curious a few years ago. I like gay porn but when I had my first gay encounter I hated it. Still like gay porn though, I kinda want to try another gay encounter again but I truly do think I would hate it. Im not sure whats up with that because seeing cock gets me rock hard.

>>2710061
>>2710603

His fetish is that he gooned himself into becoming gay. This thread is for him to goon to other people with the same fantasy. Posting evidence isn't going to dissuade him because he's too busy cumming to these stories.

>>2710040
I remember when I was 11 or 13 years old i viewed a video for the man with the most marvel tattoos, and I felt something weird when he showed some tattoos on his butt;
And having 13 or 14 years i discovered the heterosexual pornography, everything was pleasure and exciting; And I thought I should already have a gf, But i don't felt something romantic or sexual for the girls for my school. I thought it was simply due to disinterest or because I didn't feel ready.
Because i was bored or something like that.
I searched "just curious" Gay porn.


> I discovered my real sexuality in that moment

>>2711351
My issues

I have lost count of how many times I fantasized about men. I have kissed them many times, slept with them (non sexual at times) So I really think maybe blaming porn is bad. I think I just like the feminine aesthetic, maybe I was never into women. My first time in a vagina felt weird, even though women don't gross me out.

At least made me bi. Started porn at a young age, like 11. By 16 I was willing to experiment with guys. By the end of high school I was using craigslist to find a cock sucker to swallow me at least once a week.

I'm bi (bisexual/hetero-romantic), but porn never caused it. Since I was small (like 7 or 8), I always enjoyed sticking things up my butt.
At 19, I went to a bathhouse, realized making out with men did absolutely nothing, but a cock in my mouth or ass was just bliss.

Just accepted my ideal is futanari porn (RL trans stuff is pretty off putting), but seeing 2 guys have wild sex also gets me excited.

>>2710048
Same here with me. The weird thing is, I remember having some slight feelings for a few girls when I was really young, but once I hit puberty it was all about the boys.

It started with trans porn for me. Then I realized theyre all narcissists and became fully into femboys/twinks

>>2710061
Is the "gay gene" in the room right now?

>>2710603
>Evidence
You probably think that "COVID" actually exists

>>2711346
Learn to read

>>2712031
elaborate?

You can't make yourself gay you fucking moron. Thats why conversion therapy where they literally torture children doesn't fucking work. Or have you ever heard of a camp where they make people gay!? That would exist if you could become gay. Yes your therapist is right its not an indication weather you're gay or not, children are curious by nature and that curiosity is what leads to discovering weather we're gay, straight, bi, trans or whatever. It took me 30years to discover i am non binary, mostly because i didn't know about it. And guess what, if you watched gay porn as a child, found to like it, but where pressured by friends, family and society to fuck women, get married and have kids... still means you where gay from the start.