Figure drawing is a fun and good way to get better at drawing humans.Some free resources:https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timedhttps://www.quickposes.com/enhttp://reference.sketchdaily.net/enhttps://quickposes.com/en/gestures/randomhttps://www.characterdesigns.com/non-nude-photo-indexhttps://www.lovelifedrawing.com/tutorials/https://app.posemy.art/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practicehttps://www.rkgk.org/Might as well check the archives and active /ic/ threads for references:>>/ic/thread/7019067#p7019080>>/ic/thread/2015637>>/ic/thread/6864584>>/ic/thread/2023233https://4chanarchives.com/board/ic/thread/2015637Previous thread >>7884287
>>7917253Some Paul richer
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some sketches from a live session this past weekend. the model is apparently a dancer, which is not uncommon in this “field” but she wore a g string and six inch see thru heels which made the whole thing feel a lot pornier than i wanted. it would have been less risque if she had been completely naked, inversely.
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>>7917387straight dog shit baka
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>>7917282nice one
Looking through older threads, I've seen a lot of people recommend Hampton, Vilppu, and Huston for figure drawing. But I'm really not sure which one I should choose, and I'm left with a bunch of questions that I have no one to ask.To me, Vilppu's and Huston's figures look pretty chaotic, fluid, and appealing, which seems more 'friendly' towards curvy figures. Hampton's, on the other hand, look more rigid, simple, and easier to understand, but appear more difficult for curvy figures.If I decide to go with Hampton, will I actually struggle more with drawing curvy bodies? Is there one that's generally more recommended for a complete beginner, someone who's never really picked up a pencil before, like me? Do any of these approaches translate better to digital art?
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>>7918292why choose only one? try them all, take what you like and leave what you dont like, you're going to struggle no mater what so just choose a teacher and learn what you can, reaching your goal wont be a linear path
>>7918309good advice for someone that isn't a total beginner. He will just give up and quit.>>7918292Just pick the one that has the art you like best. The rest is irrelevant.Though I must say that being a total beginner (i.e. not even a single drawing) is kinda not the best place to start with figure drawing, because it's not an easy topic. Expect massive struggle and failure in the beginning (everyone has this as a complete beginner).
>>7917759i did>>7917331>>7918302this is all really lazy and low effort perversion. poor construction, no faces, shitty hands, shitty feet, no color, no shadow, no discernible attempt to improve upon the craft or expression.one gets the sense that you want to be applauded for having a boner, and the idea is, frankly, laughable.
>>7917253>>7917387>>7917761>>7918302Your stuff is so inspiring. Your figs always make me wanna draw something sexy.
>>7918302>>7918364thank you, same, always love your compositions with bold contrast and silhouette
>>7917253bump
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>>7917284drawing very light straight lines along the common landmarks will help you with alignment issues. its also a good way of making sure your perspective is alright.
Do you guys have any tips for getting the proportions right/close? been doing 2 minute studies and the stuff is always way off
>>7920288Increase the time limit or turn it off entirely, take your time measuring until you can get it right enough intuitively. Speed comes with practice.
>>7920288identify the proportion error then draw the pose again with the aim of fixing it. zoom out if working digitally
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>>7917253>3(!) links to the same websitefix that OP
>>7918363You can be mice
my figures/gestures look like shit. is there any resource to learn?
>>7921999Burne Hogarth, Glenn Vilppu, Michael Hampton, Steve Huston, you say you figures/gestures look like shit, also find a goal and aim for it, identify figures/gestures that you enjoy and study them
is this okay for gestureref: >>7922159
>>7922179looks good to me. you could maybe try to indicate some connections a bit more -- how limbs connect to the main trunk of the body, how lower legs connect to upper legs etc. even if its something as simple as indicating the corner of a knee or a quick line connecting pec to arm, i think it's worth considering during this initial stage of the drawing.
>>7920288Walt Stanchfield recommends 2 things:1 Mark making and order of operations. For example, instead of drawing the arm starting from the upper arm, first mark where the hand is placed. This makes it easier to see how everything overlaps and fits together.2 Draw in parallel, draw a little of the arm, then move to the feet, then to the chest, and so on.>>7921999Go to X and search for “Gesdraw Party.” Copy work you like, and do the live sessions as well.>>7922179It all depends.what was your goal? What did you like about that reference? Did your work capture that?For example, in mine, I didn’t like the torso, so my main goal was to push the break between the chest and hips. Secondarily, I wanted to find a more appealing pose.I do like how the feet and hands look, great job
Figures. Tried stylizing the heads>>7922261That looks really nice
>>7922484Forgot the pic
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>>7922484thanks>>7922492one thing i find helpful that you could try is putting in a quick indication of a ground plane. it takes no time at all and it really helps with the sense of perspective, especially when you're working with full figures in distorted views.>>7922606nice to see you pushing yourself a little bit.
>>7922606>>7922774appreciate it
Been experimenting with ink and brush, took it to a figure drawing session and it's great fun. Challenging to get the brush juuust wet enough but not too wet. This is one of the 30 drawings I did in the session. Just india ink and just one brush.Don't know how to get the waves out of the paper though. Maybe mist it and stretch or flatten it.
>>7923289>>7923289mix in some water with the ink to dilute it and have a sketch layer, focusing on the shading shapes as well. and when you draw the outline over it with just ink, it'll look cooler and you have a frame of reference to make it more precisemake sure to use crepe tape to fasten your paper tight to minimize waving and let it dry like that. higher quality paper will also help of course.
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>>7918363behold the ego of the academic artist, his skill of turning cute strippers into ugly cubes in full bloom. with enough practice he may one day even learn to rotate his image before posting it
>>7920037Great work, lovely figure on the upper right especially. Looks very very human
>>7918292Okay so to be completely honest Hamptom is not good if you want to draw curvy figures. Frank Frazetta, Vilppu, Huston, and hell even some Disney artists would be better than Hampton if curviness is your goal
what is the best site for fig drawing?
>>7924512line of action or downloading a gesture app and uploading your own reference packs
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>>7924570Those are some wonky ass faces
>>7924591Gesture exercises usually don't have faces, he's adding a hint of a face, an even facial expression too. That anon's skill is clearly above most artists here.
>>7922005>>7922420copy gestures/figures i like?
>>7924948Yes but also try to draw figures using the approach of artists whose work you enjoy.
>>7925014where do I even find gesture drawings of others to copy? can't find any in ges party
>>7925037Disney artists are a good place to start . Glen Keane does them for Tarzan. Hampton isn’t Disney but he focuses heavily on gesture
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>>7924746a high school basket ball player with an erection may be better than a layman at shooting hoops but that doesn't entitle him to you going to bat on his behalf, nor does it reduce or justify his empty perversionthat said, he's trying harder after i shamed him! i'm proud of you, my pathetic gooner son>>7924570
>>7924746Anon please. He's adding shading and composition framing lines, these are clearly not "gestures". Good flowy lines but he could definitely improve his work if he started paying attention more to the structure and centerlines of his forms.
>>7925663>>7925708It's better than my work is all I'm saying
>>7925205nice
all these moot arguments without a drawing attached. tsk. git back to work! here's an older one just because i'm working on something else today. i'll do some new figgies starting monday. also, at least coomers have a goal. their perversion is an enormous driving factor.
>>7926023You ruined my day with drawing. I hope step into legos.
>>7920037Didn’t even see this, thanks for the crit anon.
>>7926023you're right
>>7925396>thank you, same, always love your compositions with bold contrast and silhouetteThank you so much! You're the best anon! Thanks for posting these figs! I used the one on the second row as ref here >>7918575, but it didn't come out as I wanted it. I'll try that ref pose again later.>>7926023Amazing hands!!!!>>7924353GREAT STUFF>>7922492These are excellent!>>7920037Another beautiful figure collage SAVED>>7925205Loved it, that first figure's pose, is stellar
>>7926111Thanks anon, it’s nice to see your perverse, heavily stylized work yet again
>>7925396>>7926111thank you anon, glad you enjoy them
10 min gesture drawing>>7925048Disney artists seem like a good place to start.
>>7926324Don't threat him with a good time
>>7926324I'm sure it's not a "he", only those freaky hags come out with these "romantasy" (more like 'romanta-rape') weird crap nowadays.
>>7926293>>7926324>>7926356>>7926370All these words yet no work posted. That’s wild
>>7926182>thank you anon, glad you enjoy themI love them!I tried that pose again.>>7926121>Thanks anon, it’s nice to see your perverse, heavily stylized work yet againThank you anon! Do you have any request?>>7926293Yes, but this is an artist's board, all of the others are no draws normies just mindlessly sharing random images, they don't care if it is AI, CGI or even screencaps from movies or random videos, it feels horrible to feed that soulless self-eating machine. Here at least I'm sharing with people who actually cares about the act of drawing and creating something. And I'm an art amateur trying to fix and improve my lacking skills as well. Also I never actually draw torture or sex, I just write some little story text to add something extra to a simple figure.
>>7926422I do. Please draw Ari Lennox wearing this outfit, doing whatever you please. Also anon people that don’t post their work aren’t even worth the time of day, dont bother.
>>7926428Okay, a quick Ari for you then..Given this is the /fig/ general I should have made her in a more realistic style, but I rush it up, as always.
>>7926857I love it, anon. This made my day, great work
>>7926857The way you draw butt cheeks is sooo funny
i gave up after the legs
>>7926883Hee-hee..>>7926862Thank you so much anon! I'm Glad you liked her!
why would I need to do 30s gesture drawings first?
>>7927745you don’t need to do anything except drawing the thing you want my dear friend. if you have trouble with executing what you envision then there are certain exercises to try to alleviate that. one of the solutions to a problem you might encounter is practicing times gestures. this is true for any exercise and/or education material.best of luck
>>7926857Nigga what the fuck are you doing with those feet they look AI because if his guy obscured them with the carpet
>>7927745>firstBefore what? And who said that?
Remember to draw fat sometimes, anons! Knowing where fat is on the body is an often forgotten, but important part of figure drawing.
I like drawing fat women. Also, I'm sorry how that last image posted. I'm on my phone because I'm about to sleep.
>>7927772>>7927773I'm never posting via phone again....
>>7927750hmmm makes sense. I have no reason to do gesture drawings for now. I'm just trying to figure out why people do this every single day. Does it make figure drawing magically better or somethingYou're right I need to draw things I want. I don't want to get burn out again.>>7927764>https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/app/figure-drawing>https://www.sketchdaily.net/In these sites there is this class mode thing. I clicked it to see what it does. It first starts with short-length gesture drawing, then increases the time as it goes on. >https://web.archive.org/web/20260120080559im_/https://hackmd-prod-images.s3.ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/uploads/upload_27644a96eedad523bc67949ae2ca286b.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIA3XSAAW6AWSKNINWO&Expires=1768896659&Signature=08b4ZRlx7S6948fsHm%2BYy4hnHHY%3DI was browsing some anon advices, and I found this ^ it says the reason 30s gesture drawing does is to warm up and appreciate the longer interval. I'm not sure about that, that's why I asked here.People say my figure drawings have wonky, weird proportions/anatomy. So I thought doing gesture drawing might fix it. IDK actually.
>>7927779I'd focus a lot more on proportion and anatomy studying. I would recommend 2 minute gestures for 5-10 figures per day, because that forces you to make quick decisions. Then, look at your reference and your drawings. Compare and contrast, especially the areas you want to focus on most. For anatomy, it genuinely just takes a lot of studying, not just how the muscles look, and how they're connected to ligaments and bones but also how they stretch and contract with movement. Gesture drawings are mostly done for movement, it's so a piece can feel lively. I highly recommend drawing over gestures with muscle groups you are currently focusing on. Anticipate how the muscles will need to stretch and contract, based on how that gesture is moving. This is just my idea however, we are all on our own journey, so do what helps YOU the most.
>>7927774nah ur just cringe
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>>7927874
how important is it to learn so much of the skeletal anatomy compared to musclesi understand it's important to learn the major masses like the skull, ribcage, and pelvis but trying to go through tom fox's anatomy book and i feel overwhelmed with trying to learn some of the other parts
>>7927889It’s extremely important, more so than muscles. Dont try to learn exactly how they look but more so the important landmarks and their lengths and what muscles connect to what bone
>>7927873>>7927874>>7927878What resourses you used to get to this level? Kinda reminds me of morpho, great jobAlso, do you have somewhere else you post your stuff?
>>7927999thanks! nice trips>What resourses you used to get to this level?Scott Eaton for anatomy and Glenn Vilppu for figure drawing>do you have somewhere else you post your stuff?not really right now
>>7928047NTAI love your figure drawings, and I hope to reach your level someday. I had never drawn before and just started a few days ago. Should I start with Eaton or Vilppu first? I also noticed that Vilppu has several courses. Which one did you use?
Lets goooo art is fun againnnn
>>7928377try it, if you're just starting out you may need to cut your teeth before you can grasp Villpu or are patient enough for Eaton's lectures, God knows I didn't like them when I was starting out>Which one did you use?this one, I downloaded it from the mega thread ages agon and now I don't know where you can find it anymore other than russian youtube https://vkvideo.ru/playlist/-144612710_14I'm sure the /ic/ torrent thread has it
>>7928515what happened to make it fun? what happened to make it not fun?
>>7927790got it<- this is what I was talking about.
>>7917253These are really nice, is there a name for that method of drawing flow lines like this? Is there a logic or is it pure muscle memory?
>>7927874good reo fujisawa studies, thank you for sharing.
>>7929369youve certainly got some construction issues here.
>>7930057>good reo fujisawahow did you know it wasn't some other fat bitch?
>>7928047My biggest fear is when someone answers that has used the same resources as mine...I guess I can't leave this tutorial hell...
Doin some studies before work.
>>7930359the artbook poses gave it away, but even so, her body is fairly unique and only handful of other people share those contours.
>>7930697Literally the same body type as my gf
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>>7930795:(
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>>7930843
What a sad thread. welp, some quick figs>>7923289great the light shapes look good. Try mixed media paper, it doesn’t warp as much or even kraft paper (even though it bleeds through the page way too easily). But then again, this is for practice, so I wouldn’t mind the warping.>>7923765check out playboy mags, good work
>>7930697got a link to the book?
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>>7933060what the fuck are you saying?
>>7936167>kirtaWhat texture and brush?
>>7936167What resourses you used to get to this level?
is anyone familiar with steve huston? his head method partially confuses me. i see it's usage for profile but as soon as the head starts to turn i don't really get how you work and construct off of it, especially so if the head is tilted back or forward
not much time for drawing, just some quick figures to test some stuff out>>7936544Watch his streams and lectures, he uses methods other than the sailboat shape, depending on the situation. You have to keep in mind that he’s a pro, just because he explains one tool doesn’t mean it’s the only thing he uses.
>>7936544Yea I have his book. He’s good with taking an abstract approach to figure drawing that doesn’t rely so much on raw anatomical rules. Just keep at it and it’ll click eventually
>>7936420brush: https://gofile.io/d/CABA27texture is just a piece of paper. make your own with any phone camera.>>7936441loomis, hampton, vilppu, time, a comfy office chair.
>>7936908Who is your favorite artist?I mean, like the artist you like to study.
>>7930358What should I do?
So if I just spam 30s-1min gestures eventually I'll get good? Every time I start with a quick gesture the proportions are fucked, curves are fucked.
>>7938089i dont know that i have a favorite one to study. ive looked at lots of american illustrators from the 1930s-60s. lots of rockwell drawings, not that i think its evident in my art.>>7938096do lots of studies of various lengths. alongside that learn about construction from loomis, hampton, bridgeman, morpho etc.
>>7938196The way you color is beautiful. I wonder where it came from.
>>7938146>So if I just spam 30s-1min gestures eventually I'll get good?>Every time I start with a quick gesture the proportions are fucked, curves are fucked.Then fix them?Thinking is Doing
>>7938146what are you practicing by doing quick gestures? what's your current biggest issues in your drawings? how do i fix these issues and are there any exercises for it?answer these questions yourself and see if the answer to the first and last question is the same :)
>>7938215oh thanks. as for where it came from -- just experimenting i guess. skin tones are endlessly fascinating.
>>7938146Do a bunch of gesturesTHEN FIX THEM RETARD
>>7938315But then it's no longer a 1min gesture
>>7938358Anon please
>>7938365I'm not trying to be difficult. But isn't the point of the 1min that it becomes intuitive to do if you do a lot of them? Because I can make a pretty "good" 1 min gesture if I spend 4 minutes fixing things. But I hear people say that you're spending too much time on details and proportions if you do that.
>>7938358>>7938146>>7938501where does this 30 second or 1 min figure meme come from?
>>7938501Nigga the gesture takes minutes or seconds, after that you are supposed to fix them with and without seeing the reference, try to make it as anatomically correct as possible. Spamming gestures helps a lot but knowing how to draw the owl is the most important step.
Some people just starting out wanted tips from me for whatever reason. So I got them into figure drawing. We did a series of timed poses together to get them used to the idea of blocking our basic forms/ideas of poses without getting too caught up in the details, and I taught them about negative space and thinking about light as a way to construct. They took to it really well, so I'd like to think I did t fuck up too bad, even if my own work is kinda /beg/
>>7938502YouTube. They say doing them fast will cause you to disregard the details and focus on capturing the movement or gesture or whatever. But for me it just looks fucked up. Like the body is always bigger than the head. Sometimes the "hips" are too high/too low.
>>7938643just curious, who is they, and why believe them, point to the 1 min gesture results, like who is actually doing this and improving
>>7938896Off the top of my head proko talks about doing lots of 1 min gestures as an exercise. Obviously they're already good. So that's why I ask you guys if it's true and you eventually break through
>>7938918gotta give him some space in the midsection (assuming youre going for comic book beefy proportions).
are these books any good? my art teacher uploaded the whole scanned collection for us so I just have them as pdf's
>>7939210They’re pretty decent
>>7939210Yes but the figures are ugly as fuck clearly made by a mentally ill mediocre european artist, we are talking about old man heads on a fat woman bodies with a neovagina. But yeah the information is correct.
>>7939216>mentally ill mediocre european artistThat’s just how the French draw
>>7939216kek the perfect description of morpho
>>7936908Do you paint tradtionally too?
f..... FIGGERS
>>7939796not yet. recently began drawing traditionally though and once i get a bit more comfortable with it i plan to layer in some painting sketches.
>>7940234nice bit of progress from you.
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>>7940030don't get lazy with the forms, you're on thje right track
did this while literally falling asleep Im gonna go sleep now
should i learn shading or outfits after learning anatomy and figure drawing?
>>7941163Depends entirely on what you want to do.Are you just doing contour drawings now?
>>7941163I mean it depends on what you want to do but it’s a good idea to work on clothes a lot, they help you understand the figure more. Shading is good but very complex and not always necessary unless you want to have a style that has lots of rendering
>>7940234I still think the Anime style is holding you back.the figures with more realistic faces look phenomenal (top right corner)I think you're naturally inclined to a more realistic style, so having big anime-style bug eyes on the figures has an inharmonious effect.
>>7940256Thanks, desu my quality varies sometimes.>>7941187I like drawing realistic faces from time to time but it's just I simply have much more experience with them. Did a shitton of realistic face studies.
Feet are very hard to draw properly.
>>7941893theyre easier than hands
>>7941165>>7941170sorry for being late, did not expect anyone to reply to be frankuh i just want to make some decently rendered bodies is all but don't want to only focus on them alone
>>7917253Some figures I've made over the last few weeks
>>7942321Sorry I just had to do it
>>7942342zoomers are beautiful
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>>7918363Ironically the two of you suffer from the opposite problems. The other anon’s figures look like balloon animals because he’s using gesture as a crutch to cover his lack of anatomical knowledge, but gesture uninformed by structure is just goop. Your figures on the other hand is just box-logic applied to photos. Construction without interpretation becomes mere copying. When it comes to expression that other anon has an edge over you
>>7942383Apollonian vs Dionysian styles
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>>7942321nice job, can you share more please or blog? these are the best drawings in the whole thread
>>7942321very nice
>>7942383>Your figures on the other hand is just box-logic applied to photos.nta but that's very uncharitable.
>>7942577I’m not saying his work sucks. Box-logic on its own can only get you so far
Can someome explain what muscles are being shown in this drawing? Are these the adductor muscles?
>>7942683yes
>>7942423I'm using a twitter accrein1155
Some figures I've made over the last few weeks (bad edition)
>>7943574These are really good anon. I don’t understand why you seem to have little confidence in your work.
>>7943580here are some good figures in this thread:>>7920037>>7925205>>7927873
>>7943574Your figures give me a Korean art style vibe and I really like them! Would you mind telling me what resources you used to learn to draw from when you first started until now? I mean things like books or courses. Sorry for my broken English!
>>7943595So? Stop comparing yourself to others
>>7943661bold move asking that of someone who dislikes his own artjust copy and trace drawings that you like (with clear lineart). I got most gains from that. brush doesn't matter, I picked mine on a whim and stayed with it, line weight too hard. look for shared symbols / similarities in how different artists describe same parts of the body, and with time you will accumulate a library of symbols you can build figures from. like, as an example, in my figs, I use the same lines for clavicles, just move them around a little to fit the orientation of the chest and shoulders. does every person have defined clavicles? no. but my thought process is "artists put these lines at the top of the chest, so I do it too"and get basic knowledge of construction, doesn't matter which book you get it from, they're all similar. a blob for the head, chest, and hips, crosses on top of them to indicate orientation. just so you'd know where to put your symbols. I wouldn't recommend any books or courses. I've studied vilppu, hampton, morpho manuals, but they didn't give me much improvement. and here you're are>>7944134>stop being unsatisfied with your skill and seeking improvement, stay content in your mediocrity
>>7944143It’s not about being unsatisfied with your skill and not seeking improvement . It’s about seeing your journey as independent from others. Their weaknesses aren’t yours and your strengths aren’t theirs. Focus on your own work and your wishes will come true, but the comparison is ultimately pointless.
>>7944164Shame most artists abhorrent human beings. Comes with the territory i guess, full of trannies and women that wasted their lifes doing the same loomies and the same garbage over and over brute forcing their way.
>>7943574stupid shoobert, stop being so self loathing. a little delusion can go a long way at improving not only your art but yourself as human bean. theres a balance to be struck with self critique and love for the shit you put out. now quit whining and git back to werk
>>7944268>a little delusion can go a long way at improvingFucking thank you. Holy shit. I wish people here understood this more. You will NOT make it in this craft unless you’re a little delusional about what you want.
I have poor understanding of anatomy so j raw dogging this by sight
>>7944644Hopefully not sideways
>>7944295well, its more of a notion about wanting and accepting that you are an artist and you are amongst masters and will be a master eventually, which is likelier to happen with a mindset that is aiming towards it. if you think of yourself as drawer, you will think like a drawer, no? >oh i'm just a hobbyist... i do something sometimes when i find the time hehngmi
>>7918363>>7942383the coomer is visibly the better artist here desu. i dont think it matters that much in terms of actually progressing but sexual energy has always been tied to creative energy in western culture starting with le greeks, autistically trying to remove it from the process is unproductive
>>7942342heheheeh>>7942321very nice >3>>7940234>>7941827>>7944524chef kiss
>>7944644>>7944645pretty neat drawing. i like how you got a bit of reflected light in her arm. carpet could use a cleaning.
>>7944524are you drawing from ref or imagination?
>>7940281nice indication of form in these
>>7947751Torso is ok but the arms are lookin’ funny.Arms are super hard, idk why.
>>7947298Sometimes imagination sometimes refs, a mix of both
assorted Twitter model and a reference from >>7947885
>>7948382you didnt push the hip tilt enough which makes the pose feel stiffer. disproportionate thighs as well.
